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LiveToLift will be joining the ranks of the gods (Mdrol/Andromass cycle)

Taking an oral steroid with fats should increase absorption. But if its impossible to take it with food cuz of your workout schedule, at least take it with natural peanut butter and/or fish oild. And maybe split the doses so 10mg preworkout and 10 later.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Taking an oral steroid with fats should increase absorption. But if its impossible to take it with food cuz of your workout schedule, at least take it with natural peanut butter and/or fish oild. And maybe split the doses so 10mg preworkout and 10 later.
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Should you eat the food then take or take then eat food? Or does it really matter?
 
Yea I've been taking it along with fish oils and peanut butter together. I'm only taking 10 mg for the first week, maybe even second week depending on how the gains/sides persist. Thanks flex as always you have answers haha!
 
Srt4Muscle said:
i would def keep the hawberry doses up there, and drink lots of water. i dont think its was the mdrol that was making you sick but i could be wrong. i like to take my supp with food too cause i usually take a vitamin at the same time which makes me sick as **** on a empty stomach. hopefully your in the clear now.
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You know thats a very good point I did take it with a multi and also the purps from the AM could very well have been the reason my stomach got upset. I'll tell ya what those purps the first and second day were disgusting. I'm still having them but they are not nearly as bad, almost like I'm just used to them now lol
 
NuclearLaunch said:
Should you eat the food then take or take then eat food? Or does it really matter?
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I doubt it matters but I would try and take it before the food, so the food can lay on top of it. I don't know if you read anything about Ursobolic (not a PH I know) but people who swallowed it after their food were getting "smoke burps" because the powder would lay on top of the food after the cap dissolved lol...kind of wasting it I guess.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I doubt it matters but I would try and take it before the food, so the food can lay on top of it. I don't know if you read anything about Ursobolic (not a PH I know) but people who swallowed it after their food were getting "smoke burps" because the powder would lay on top of the food after the cap dissolved lol...kind of wasting it I guess.
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Wow man this is weird, just about a month ago I started taking BCAA capsules bc I couldn't stand the powder taste and I started getting these "smoke burps" looked as if I had swallowed a hit of a cig. Will remember this in the future!
 
Sure do love christmas at the ma's, have had enough protein and carbs in the last 3 hours to calm down the cycle hungers for a bit. Can't beat the to go bag that I have for later either! Hope everyone got to enjoy as good of a xmas meal as I did! Love the holidays!
 
Will say, dammmnnn it feels great to get back in the gym today! Went in for a good chest/tri crush topped with an ab burn at the conclusion. I realize Mdrol is a very wet compound but one thing I slacked on while running Hdrol was keeping my mid-section in check, I refuse to make that mistake again! Energy was great, focus was good, strength was about normal. Weight was at 171.6 still 3 lbs up from the start. The pump was amazing, just being less then a week in I was very surprised to all ready notice filling out of the tris and chest. Started with a good solid chest workout, but I think I over killed it because by the time I got to tris muscles were shutting down. Details:

Flat bench
1X10 135
1X8 185
2X8 205
1X7 185
1X7 155

Incline bench
1X8 135
1X8 145
1X8 150
1X8 135

Wide machine
1X8 180
2X8 200

Flat DB fly's
3X8 45 (Really felt a burn on these, cant usually get 3 full sets at 8 here)

Weighted dips
1X5 35
2X5 25

Vbar pulldown
1X5 87.5
1X5 80

Ab coaster
3X20 30lbs
2X15 20lbs

Tris were suffering terribly today, not used to that at all. Seems after I killed the fly's my arms felt as if they had just buckled up on me. A bit discouraging. Did start to notice some lower back pain near the end of the workout that is still persisting now, just popped some more taurine to make sure I keep pumps down. Back and bis tomorrow and I'm already ready to crush the gym again tomorrow!
 
I used to have that problem, but with bis/tri day. All my energy would be used up after finishing with bis. So going bi workout then tri workout, you can get more even energy throughout both muscle groups with a rest switching back and forth.
 
Srt4Muscle said:
I used to have that problem, but with bis/tri day. All my energy would be used up after finishing with bis. So going bi workout then tri workout, you can get more even energy throughout both muscle groups with a rest switching back and forth.
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Yea I've also tried that but felt that i would not get enough emphasis on one or the other so it seemed as if I was just treading water rather then getting stronger, just a little weird that this has never happened to me in a year and a half of doing it. Like i said I think I was just overly excited about being "on" again and burned out my muscles.
 
Yeah its different with chest and tri, I don't like them on the same day for that same reason. I do arms instead...
 
Following:)

AM V2 will make some very lethargic, it's happening to me now, but just get through it because as soon as you hit the gym you feel amazing.
 
ryansm said:
Following:)

AM V2 will make some very lethargic, it's happening to me now, but just get through it because as soon as you hit the gym you feel amazing.
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Welcome bro! Yea the lethargy has been off and on but nothing that isn't manageable yet. Wont let it stop me thats for sure.
 
Amazing workout today! Went in for back/bis but had such a good back day today that I couldn't even think about doing anything else. Funny when I got to the gym I didn't feel too "on" but by the time I got done with the first 3 sets I felt strong as hell and the pump was incredible. Weight was also jacked up to 173.5 today, a total of 5 lbs already! Details:

Lat pulldown (wide)
1X10 140
2X8 160
1X5 162.5
1X8 140

Seated row bar (both arms at once, weight is both bars combined)
1X8 180
1X8 200
1X8 210
1X8 215
1X8 180

Dead lifts
1X8 135
1X8 185
1X8 225
1X5 225

Low row bar (both combined)
1X8 180
1X8 200
1X8 230
1X8 180

Lat pulldown (narrow)
2X8 160

Can't believe the energy I had today, I honestly could have done biceps after this workout but was already over an hour and didn't want to completely wear myself out. No sides today so far and feeling is amazing.
 
One side note! Does anyone following know what could be causing itching as a side effect? For some reason when I get in the gym I have an urge to itch my face neck and chest and normally don't have this problem. It is really annoying!
 
mattrag said:
Nice workout man!
No sides yet? Sounds good to me :)
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Yea man! Had the headaches at the beginning but like I said I believe my body was just getting used to the compound and I upped my hawthorn and boom they aren't very bad any more. Minor pumps I think yesterday but not long and taurine seemed to help. The workout was amazing and I had that king feeling in the gym that I die for! Cant wait for shoulder day man, that is always my favorite day.
 
LiveToLift said:
One side note! Does anyone following know what could be causing itching as a side effect? For some reason when I get in the gym I have an urge to itch my face neck and chest and normally don't have this problem. It is really annoying!
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Do you take a pre? Sounds like mild niacin flushing.
Could be your body had a vitamin deficiency or the sdrol is using more nutrients and the preworkout is slamming your body with it. Kinda like how beta alanin makes us feel when we first start taking it to when we get used to it. Just your body is depleting it at a faster rate making you more susceptible to those type of sides.
 
No preworkout at all man, try not to take in any caffeine when "on". Maybe a cup of coffee here and there but that's it.
 
Or could simply be exercise/stress induced histamine release
 
CopyCat said:
Or could simply be exercise/stress induced histamine release
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This is very likely.
Especially if all your taking pre gym is water or a small cup of coffee.
 
You could try and take something like claritin, Zyrtec, or a light dose of Benadryl about a half hour or so prior to working out and see if it doesn't help
 
CopyCat said:
You could try and take something like claritin, Zyrtec, or a light dose of Benadryl about a half hour or so prior to working out and see if it doesn't help
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Think I will just see if it keeps being an issue, it by no means irritates me to the point of throwing another pill into the mix, just thought it was odd that its all of a sudden happening. Didn't know if there was something in the compounds that is known to cause these effects. Thanks guys will keep it in mind.
 
Sounds like you're already having awesome results! Good luck with everything, I'm sure it's gonna work well.
 
Chevyz28 said:
Sounds like you're already having awesome results! Good luck with everything, I'm sure it's gonna work well.
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Hell ya man, not even out of the starting gate so to speak and already showing good results. This is gonna be one hell of a cycle. I'm thinking if this continues I may be one of those 20 lb gainers! especially being that I'm running the AM for about 7-8 weeks. We'll see though, I'm just glad to be at my heaviest point ever right now!
 
A little update, just got confirmation that my purchase of V3 went through this morning and should have it withing 2-6 days. Pretty excited to use this product during the final few weeks, it should compliment this cycle greatly. Everyone take advantage of this new year sale from PP if your interested, its a hell of a deal.
 
LiveToLift said:
Hell ya man, not even out of the starting gate so to speak and already showing good results. This is gonna be one hell of a cycle. I'm thinking if this continues I may be one of those 20 lb gainers! especially being that I'm running the AM for about 7-8 weeks. We'll see though, I'm just glad to be at my heaviest point ever right now!
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Thats awesome to hear ! Hope its keeps going as well as its going ! Keep us informed on the itching.
 
Leg day.... Actually had very high energy today, was on a time restriction but still plowed through a hell of a workout. Strength wasn't up but quantity was through the roof. Even though my hams were feeling rough I was able to keep on going. Details:

Squats
1X8 135
1X8 185
1X8 205
1X8 215
1X6 185

Leg Press
1X10 270
2X8 320
1X8 370
2X6 300

Calf ext.
2X12 180
2X10 230
1X10 180

Rear kick
2X10 90
2X8 135

Leg raises
3X15 BW

Ab coaster
2X20 30 lbs

Already sore and I was very happy with today's workout, thought since time was an issue it would be a sh!tty day in the gym but I got a boost to kill it and get out. Starting to think the itching is from blood pressure, not sure how that would make any sense but its usually right after I crush my heaviest sets and its usually accompanied with heat. I know what Mattrag said about niacin makes sense being that I had niacin flushes when I was a teen trying to clean out for test's...... but I dont think any product I'm using has niacin besides my multi which isnt a very high dose.
 
LiveToLift said:
Hell ya man, not even out of the starting gate so to speak and already showing good results. This is gonna be one hell of a cycle. I'm thinking if this continues I may be one of those 20 lb gainers! especially being that I'm running the AM for about 7-8 weeks. We'll see though, I'm just glad to be at my heaviest point ever right now!
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I'm pretty sure if you eat enough you will hit 20lbs.
 
mattrag said:
I'm pretty sure if you eat enough you will hit 20lbs.
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Well I'll take it! If I put on those numbers and wait a month or two and do a cut I'm sure I'll have some pretty shredded results. Goal is to gain weight here but need to make sure a good portion is "valuable" weight.
 
CopyCat said:
You could try and take something like claritin, Zyrtec, or a light dose of Benadryl about a half hour or so prior to working out and see if it doesn't help
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Sublingual methylcobalamin could also help out with lowering histamine while also increasing energy levels.
 
When I was taking V2 I was itching a lot too. Got really irritating lol. Hopefully it goes away.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
When I was taking V2 I was itching a lot too. Got really irritating lol. Hopefully it goes away.
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Exactly! Was hoping someone would have the same experience and could verify. Very annoying lol.
 
Rodja said:
Sublingual methylcobalamin could also help out with lowering histamine while also increasing energy levels.
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Personally, Thanks...

Never knew of it, but now I do as I just looked it up it is something entirely new to me, but looks good. That right there is why we are part of a community like AM. Thanks man.
 
3 days late, but the cat finally dragged me in.
 
AaronJP1 said:
3 days late, but the cat finally dragged me in.
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Welcome bro! Right when it should get real interesting, sides are at a minimum so I may be bumping to 20 today!
 
WOW......All that can explain what you are about to hear.
 
First off let me say Flex you know what the hell you are talking about when you give advice, this cycle was exactly what was meant for someone with my body type/weight etc. Weighed in today at 174.5 a total gain of 6 lbs in the first week, not too mention the strength and energy today were literally second to none. The pump was also incredible, I literally felt that at times my veins and muscles were going to pop out of my skin. If there was any doubt that this was gonna work for me then it was completely crushed today. Shoulders were on the agenda and killing them was exactly what I was going for with no other goal in mind. Details:

Military press (smith with 30 lb reduction)
1X10 100
1X8 125
1X8 155 (HOLY SH!T, felt like I could have done more but my joints were hit today, major increase from last week though)
1X7 155
1X8 115

Shrugs (Smith in front of bar)
1X12 195
1X10 245
2X8 275
1X8 225
1X8 195

Chin raises
1X10 110 (PR)
1X8 110
2X8 100
1X8 90

Seated DB cuban press
2X10 30
1X8 30

DB shrugs
1X10 85
2X8 90

This was an incredible workout, I'm thinking I may put the jump to 20mg on hold. I feel as if this stuff really kicked in today and it would be almost pointless to rush anything. Not sure though all I know is holy fack this was the best I've felt in the gym in months. Was so tempted to throw up some progress pics just because I honestly feel so big today. Had that feeling in the gym where you feel as if your the strongest pound for pound in the entire gym. Flex very nicely done on the organization of this cycle I owe ya man!
 
On a side note, the itching was out of control today at the gym. Very odd it was after every heavy set it would start attacking my back sides neck and beard area. Rodja I believe I may take you up on that advice, what is the compound you are suggesting? I will google what you said on here to see what you are talking about. I guess the better question is, can you find it in any stores vitamin aisle or do you have to order online?
 
Nice update :)
Glad its working out man.
Def keep it at 10mg man, if you're seeing gains like that with 10 no need to double it and increase the sides just yet. When the gains start slowing jump to 20.
Also the liquavade is allowing for better absorption of that mdrol.
Keep killin it bro!
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Nice update :)
Glad its working out man.
Def keep it at 10mg man, if you're seeing gains like that with 10 no need to double it and increase the sides just yet. When the gains start slowing jump to 20.
Also the liquavade is allowing for better absorption of that mdrol.
Keep killin it bro!
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Hell ya good advice man, I was thinking the same thing my idea was if it stays going so well I may just run 10/10/20/20 instead of 10/20/20. Didn't want to push it past 3 weeks but the sides are so minimal and the gains are insane so far so I think it would be safe to push that last week. Thanks again man even if you only feel this a few months a year this is incredible and so worth while.
 
Someones in love ah haha working out will never be the same, its good to hear such success, watch those stretch marks. First SD cycle, 20lbs easy in a couple weeks, that feeling like your arms were gonna blow up lol is when they literally start to stretch your skin bud.
 
Srt4Muscle said:
Someones in love ah haha working out will never be the same, its good to hear such success, watch those stretch marks. First SD cycle, 20lbs easy in a couple weeks, that feeling like your arms were gonna blow up lol is when they literally start to stretch your skin bud.
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Yea not prone to em but who knows, if my strength is gonna be this good then Ill take a few if I get em.
 
lol thats cool i used to not them, well i only have them on in my armpits and inner thighs. when i had only one i didnt like it but now i have two kinda big ones. they look symetrical so i kinda dig it lol keep up the big lifts bro

you ever figure out exactly what your pct is gonna be...on hand and in the works is says??
 
Srt4Muscle said:
lol thats cool i used to not them, well i only have them on in my armpits and inner thighs. when i had only one i didnt like it but now i have two kinda big ones. they look symetrical so i kinda dig it lol keep up the big lifts bro

you ever figure out exactly what your pct is gonna be...on hand and in the works is says??
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I got them all over my back a couple years ago, never went away :(
Have some on the outer pecs too. All good though.
 
Srt4Muscle said:
lol thats cool i used to not them, well i only have them on in my armpits and inner thighs. when i had only one i didnt like it but now i have two kinda big ones. they look symetrical so i kinda dig it lol keep up the big lifts bro

you ever figure out exactly what your pct is gonna be...on hand and in the works is says??
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I'm in that lottery contest for the test pro which would give me a strong AI and I have nolva and formula X on hand, was thinking about getting titanium and division to top it off. Or I could go with what I did last time and that was RV2 nolva, PCT assist and creatine.... That brought me out of it withing 2 weeks.
 
Thanks to SRT4Muscle I decided to cram a bicep/tricep day today. May I say damn that pump is amazing, strength was good but really concentrated on substance and reps. Energy was great and no sides to speak of, the itching wasn't even bad today. One thing that I might add is that I skipped my taurine and didn't experience this side effect hmmmm.... Details:

Straight bar curl (Pump was great just felt I had to keep doing this workout)
1X12 65
1X8 95
1X8 100
1X6 100
1X6 95
1X7 75

DB incline curl
2X8 40
2X8 35

Straight bar reverse curl(Right into a regular curl)
2X10 50 X10
1X8 60 X10
1X8 50 X8

Weighted dips
1X10 25
2X10 30
1X15 BW

Vbar pulldown
1X10 87.5
2X8 95 (PR)
1X8 87.5

DB OH
2X8 70
1X10 65

Weight was up another lb. today, total of 7 lbs so far, diet has been insane. I'm taking in carbs like a facking mad man. If I literally listed the amount of food I've been consuming it would blow your mind, for my weight any way. Yet I still wake up in the A.M. with my stomach tight and can barely pinch any fat. Keep it coming!
 
Here will be the Week 1 progress pics:
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Sorry they are a bit blurry and bad lighting, getting a new phone tonight and the picture quality will go up big time.
 
Damn blew the sleeves right off that shirt lol looking good
 
farmtireguy said:
Damn blew the sleeves right off that shirt lol looking good
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Hell ya man had to finally chop those sleeves off that shirt hate working out with sleeves, thanks man
 
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