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hiimnotcool said:
So, as was mentioned in here, I was going to do Exotherm when I finished my bottle of Letrone. Kind of thinking about just getting the Exotherm now and running them together.

If I did this, would it be 1 cap of Letrone upon waking then just 3 pumps of exotherm later in the day? I ordered PES Shift and I heard it it's a really good appetite suppressant so mixing all those things could bring some really good results in 6-8 weeks.
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What you have worked out seems like a good place to start. Keep the Letrone at only 1 to start. And maybe dose Exotherm twice daily for about a week to get a feel for them together, then up the dosage on one or both depending on how you feel. Also, I would apply Exotherm am and sometime in the early evening. Letrone in the morning is good. Shift plus those two is very interesting! That could lead to some serious fat burning. I enjoyed AlphaMax and Exotherm together recently. Very lean gains. Keep us updated on how that works for you.
 
hiimnotcool said:
So, as was mentioned in here, I was going to do Exotherm when I finished my bottle of Letrone. Kind of thinking about just getting the Exotherm now and running them together.

If I did this, would it be 1 cap of Letrone upon waking then just 3 pumps of exotherm later in the day? I ordered PES Shift and I heard it it's a really good appetite suppressant so mixing all those things could bring some really good results in 6-8 weeks.
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I think this is a great Idea. Just keep an eye on how you feel. If libido tanks out or you start to feel joint pain reduce dose on one or the other.
The addition of the Fat burners in Exotherm will really kick your cut into high gear.
 
Btw...I have bloodwork that backs Letrone. I have been on vacation for the past week and have not been on AM. I am posting this here because I saw the Best OTC AI thread asking for bloods. That thread has been locked. I will search for my bloodwork and post the numbers up. I believe it dropped my e2 numbers by 9 points at 1 cap ED.
 
ELROCK said:
Btw...I have bloodwork that backs Letrone. I have been on vacation for the past week and have not been on AM. I am posting this here because I saw the Best OTC AI thread asking for bloods. That thread has been locked. I will search for my bloodwork and post the numbers up. I believe it dropped my e2 numbers by 9 points at 1 cap ED.
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Cool - lots of us waiting with anticipation for Letrone bloodwork to start popping up.

If you have pre and post bloodwork that would be great.

Also write what was your cycle, duration of cycle and what you used for pct, how long after pct or cycle finished that you took post bloodwork...
 
ELROCK said:
Btw...I have bloodwork that backs Letrone. I have been on vacation for the past week and have not been on AM. I am posting this here because I saw the Best OTC AI thread asking for bloods. That thread has been locked. I will search for my bloodwork and post the numbers up. I believe it dropped my e2 numbers by 9 points at 1 cap ED.
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This is a new thread discussing OTC AI ingredients where you thoughts and the labs would be well received.
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They are trying to keep rep involvement to a minimum and get feedback and info from users on newer AI's and their ingredients.
 
ELROCK said:
Btw...I have bloodwork that backs Letrone. I have been on vacation for the past week and have not been on AM. I am posting this here because I saw the Best OTC AI thread asking for bloods. That thread has been locked. I will search for my bloodwork and post the numbers up. I believe it dropped my e2 numbers by 9 points at 1 cap ED.
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Oh good! Glad labs are starting to trickle in.
Thanks for running them.
 
brundel said:
Oh good! Glad labs are starting to trickle in.
Thanks for running them.
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No problem man, thank you for making a solid OTC option. It does what its suppose to do for me (lower e2, lean me up and slight increased appetite). I especially like it because it is OTC and it doesn't hurt my joints like most all AIs do to me. I run labs regularly and it only cost me $39 bucks so its worth it for me.
 
ELROCK said:
No problem man, thank you for making a solid OTC option. It does what its suppose to do for me (lower e2, lean me up and slight increased appetite). I especially like it because it is OTC and it doesn't hurt my joints like most all AIs do to me. I run labs regularly and it only cost me $39 bucks so its worth it for me.
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Thanks for posting your feedback and bloodwork results man! Any plans to get bloods on 2 caps ED?
 
kboxer7 said:
Thanks for posting your feedback and bloodwork results man! Any plans to get bloods on 2 caps ED?
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I havent actually posted the bloodwork yet, but I will. I do not plan on running it at 2 caps ED so no. It works perfectly for me at 1 cap ED to bring my e2 and keep it down. My e2 is sitting pretty low ATM (I believe its at 14 lol).
 
ELROCK said:
I havent actually posted the bloodwork yet, but I will. I do not plan on running it at 2 caps ED so no. It works perfectly for me at 1 cap ED to bring my e2 and keep it down. My e2 is sitting pretty low ATM (I believe its at 14 lol).
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Yeah I'd say that's low lol.

Thanks for the fast reply man.
 
ELROCK said:
I havent actually posted the bloodwork yet, but I will. I do not plan on running it at 2 caps ED so no. It works perfectly for me at 1 cap ED to bring my e2 and keep it down. My e2 is sitting pretty low ATM (I believe its at 14 lol).
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it dropped it by 9 so you were around 25?!
Because if so this is much greater than I had thought. Thinking in terms of %.
9 points is MUCH more if you were at 25 than if you were at 125.
I was thinking...meh...at least it was a positive result but I wasnt very happy with it until I heard you were so low.

Now...Im happy.

We ran a bunch of labs so I know this stuff works. Some of them were craaaazy. Most were impressive enough to go directly to manufacturing.
-9 from 25 is very good IMHO.

DEF dont go to 2 caps lol.
 
ELROCK said:
I havent actually posted the bloodwork yet, but I will. I do not plan on running it at 2 caps ED so no. It works perfectly for me at 1 cap ED to bring my e2 and keep it down. My e2 is sitting pretty low ATM (I believe its at 14 lol).
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Poast the blooooods!
 
ELROCK said:
I havent actually posted the bloodwork yet, but I will. I do not plan on running it at 2 caps ED so no. It works perfectly for me at 1 cap ED to bring my e2 and keep it down. My e2 is sitting pretty low ATM (I believe its at 14 lol).
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That's great figure for e2 - even if you started at 23 before 1 cap of Letrone that would be around middle of the normal range (my lab range when I took bloodwork 4 years ago show normal range to be 7.63-42.59).

That time I think I was on Triazole and my e2 went from 32 to 19 so 13 points but % wise that was drop of around 40% which is similar % drop with you taking 1 cap of Letrone (9 points drop from 23 to 14).

This sound to me just what we need - natty AI that drops e2 but not too low so we not get effects of low estrogen.

Any natty AI that drops e2 level in a 15-25 range sounds good to me.

Your starting 23 level might suggest you don't even need to take any AI.
 
Volvo140G said:
Poast the blooooods!
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I will late tonight. I am a small business owner that just got back from a week vacation so its crazy right now. But, I will not forget to look through my bloods tonight. I will probably post my last 3 readings.
 
ELROCK said:
I will late tonight. I am a small business owner that just got back from a week vacation so its crazy right now. But, I will not forget to look through my bloods tonight. I will probably post my last 3 readings.
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Post them also at Invalid Link Removed so hopefully bloodwork topic also gets active with people posting their bloodwork while taking other products too.
 
Sss23 said:
Any idea why? It drives me nuts
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I wish I did but I don't. This is how I see it. You get lethargy when your estrogen is too low. But if you're dosing is perfect for YOU and estrogen sits exactly where it should be you get energy. Again, this is just an opinion
 
ELROCK said:
Btw...I have bloodwork that backs Letrone. I have been on vacation for the past week and have not been on AM. I am posting this here because I saw the Best OTC AI thread asking for bloods. That thread has been locked. I will search for my bloodwork and post the numbers up. I believe it dropped my e2 numbers by 9 points at 1 cap ED.
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A little background first: I dropped TRT just over a year ago. I dropped it because I am trying to get the wife pregnant. I ran a good PCT, but its been an obvious struggle. I have continued with a PCT type Clomid restart since. My T levels are still not good. The first bloods I was on
1.Clomid + low dose Formeron (EOD)+ Test boosters
2. Clomid + Test boosters (no AI ran out of Formeron)
3. Clomid + Letrone (1 cap ED) + Test booster

Here are my past 3 Bloodworks:

Bloodwork 1
TT-294
Free T- 10
E2- 11
LH-0.1
FSH- 0.2

Bloodwork 2
TT-343
Free T-12
E2-25
LH- 1.1
FSH-1.2

Bloodwork 3
TT- 397
Free T- 15
E2- 14
LH- 2.4
FSH -2.0
 
ELROCK said:
A little background first: I dropped TRT just over a year ago. I dropped it because I am trying to get the wife pregnant. I ran a good PCT, but its been an obvious struggle. I have continued with a PCT type Clomid restart since. My T levels are still not good. The first bloods I was on 1.Clomid + low dose Formeron (EOD)+ Test boosters
2. Clomid + Test boosters (no AI ran out of Formeron)
3. Clomid + Letrone (1 cap ED) + Test booster

Here are my past 3 Bloodworks:

Bloodwork 1
TT-294
Free T- 10
E2- 11
LH-0.09
FSH- 0.19

Bloodwork 2
TT-343
Free T-12
E2-25
LH- 1.1
FSH-1.2

Bloodwork 3
TT- 397
Free T- 15
E2- 14
LH- 2.4
FSH -2.0
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definitely looking better bro.

i would try a run of Rebirth with Letrone plus whatever test booster you have to run.
Run Rebirth @ 2 caps per day & Letrone @ 1 cap per day and then get bloodwork.
 
vujade said:
definitely looking better bro.

i would try a run of Rebirth with Letrone plus whatever test booster you have to run.
Run Rebirth @ 2 caps per day & Letrone @ 1 cap per day and then get bloodwork.
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I actually just dropped the clomid about 2 weeks ago. It gives me emotional sides even when my estrogen is super low. I hate the sh1t, but I know its the best for fertility. It always has even in the past when I used it for PCT purposes. I am now on Rebirth + Letrone + Ultimate-T and feel fawkin amazing to be honest with you. Are my T levels actually up who knows (probably not lol). I will be getting bloods again in November.
 
ELROCK said:
A little background first: I dropped TRT just over a year ago. I dropped it because I am trying to get the wife pregnant. I ran a good PCT, but its been an obvious struggle. I have continued with a PCT type Clomid restart since. My T levels are still not good. The first bloods I was on 1.Clomid + low dose Formeron (EOD)+ Test boosters
2. Clomid + Test boosters (no AI ran out of Formeron)
3. Clomid + Letrone (1 cap ED) + Test booster

Here are my past 3 Bloodworks:

Bloodwork 1
TT-294
Free T- 10
E2- 11
LH-0.09
FSH- 0.19

Bloodwork 2
TT-343
Free T-12
E2-25
LH- 1.1
FSH-1.2

Bloodwork 3
TT- 397
Free T- 15
E2- 14
LH- 2.4
FSH -2.0
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This is great actually. If you look at it this way.....running clomid and Formeron compared to clomid and Letrone youll notice TT, FT,LH,FSH are all higher with letrone and e2 is lower.
The down side is if clomid and Letrone cant get your total T over 400 and your FT is 15 its probably HRT time :(
I just want people to see that Letrone is effecting things FAR more than formestane.
 
ELROCK said:
I actually just dropped the clomid about 2 weeks ago. It gives me emotional sides even when my estrogen is super low. I hate the sh1t, but I know its the best for fertility. It always has even in the past when I used it for PCT purposes. I am now on Rebirth + Letrone + Ultimate-T and feel fawkin amazing to be honest with you. Are my T levels actually up who knows (probably not lol). I will be getting bloods again in November.
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Was your clomid from a pharmacy?
If not maybe the Rebirth is kicking thinks into high gear. Or the increase in LH we are seeing is starting to boost test levels more.
 
brundel said:
Was your clomid from a pharmacy?
If not maybe the Rebirth is kicking thinks into high gear. Or the increase in LH we are seeing is starting to boost test levels more.
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My Clomid is/was RC not pharm grade. I honestly believe that I am feeling so good because I am off the clomid which never sits well with me. It makes me emotional, easily overwhelmed, easily stressed, etc. But, it could be numbers climbing from my current stack. I will keep you guys posted on how everything pans out.
 
ELROCK said:
A little background first: I dropped TRT just over a year ago. I dropped it because I am trying to get the wife pregnant. I ran a good PCT, but its been an obvious struggle. I have continued with a PCT type Clomid restart since. My T levels are still not good. The first bloods I was on 1.Clomid + low dose Formeron (EOD)+ Test boosters
2. Clomid + Test boosters (no AI ran out of Formeron)
3. Clomid + Letrone (1 cap ED) + Test booster

Here are my past 3 Bloodworks:

Bloodwork 1
TT-294
Free T- 10
E2- 11
LH-0.09
FSH- 0.19

Bloodwork 2
TT-343
Free T-12
E2-25
LH- 1.1
FSH-1.2

Bloodwork 3
TT- 397
Free T- 15
E2- 14
LH- 2.4
FSH -2.0
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Can you copy and paste this also at
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brundel said:
This is great actually. If you look at it this way.....running clomid and Formeron compared to clomid and Letrone youll notice TT, FT,LH,FSH are all higher with letrone and e2 is lower.
The down side is if clomid and Letrone cant get your total T over 400 and your FT is 15 its probably HRT time :(
I just want people to see that Letrone is effecting things FAR more than formestane.
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With him running Clomid and test boosters along with Letrone we can't really know which product was responsible for raise in his LH, FSH and test but we could say that Letrone was responsible for lowering his e2 in 3rd bloodwork.

Also since his test didn't even go over 400 then his e2 also couldn't jump enough to see real strength of Letrone in lowering e2. If his test would jump to 800 and his e2 follow this by rising to 50 before start taking Letrone then we'd see how good Letrone is in lowering e2.

Ideally somebody should just take Letrone (no added SERM and test booster) then do bloodwork to see how much Letrone alone can change values of hormones. But if taking after a cycle this is not likely so only way this could be done is if somebody would just take it as standalone natty option to lowering e2.

Overall we can see Letrone lowers e2 but need more bloodwork to confirm his potency % wise.

Looking forward to more Letrone bloodwork in the future.

I'm now day 3 on Letrone 1 cap (and maybe cause I was 5 weeks before on Exotherm), but this first 3 days on Letrone my appetite increase is not even half the strength comparing to first 2 days of start taking Exotherm at 1 pump.
 
kboxer7 said:
brundel or any BLR rep,

Does anyone have info on the the dose of Atractylodes given to the pigs in the cited study in the write up, and also the means of administration (oral, etc.)?

Thank you in advance.
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I personally don't have/know tbh. But I will ask Brundel and see
 
In a few months I'm going to run Tr1umph and Dermatrest and was going to use Letrone as my AI. Would 2 caps a day be fine for 40-60 mg of Tr1 and 25-50 mg of DT? I was going to get a RC AI for just in case it got ugly.
 
Letrone will work great. If your going for a cut I would use exotherm. Then bridge Letrone in pct.
 
halfhuman said:
Big jump in appetite?
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For the first 7-10 yes. Now it's back to normal. I do IF and would wake up hungry which NEVER happened. And would stay hungry for about 3-4 hours. But once I got aminos in me and pre workout, it was fine. Now after that initial period (and upping to 2 caps) I hardly notice any hunger pains, back to normal
 
chedapalooza said:
For the first 7-10 yes. Now it's back to normal. I do IF and would wake up hungry which NEVER happened. And would stay hungry for about 3-4 hours. But once I got aminos in me and pre workout, it was fine. Now after that initial period (and upping to 2 caps) I hardly notice any hunger pains, back to normal
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When I ran it I had the same reaction. For a few days I was eating all. But it eased and leveled out. Be at times that I want more food but it was bearable for sure. 2 caps will do it too the same way. Maybe a bit more aggressive lol. So be alert. Maybe, maybe not. We all different. Keep us posted at 2 caps
 
halfhuman said:
When I ran it I had the same reaction. For a few days I was eating all. But it eased and leveled out. Be at times that I want more food but it was bearable for sure. 2 caps will do it too the same way. Maybe a bit more aggressive lol. So be alert. Maybe, maybe not. We all different. Keep us posted at 2 caps
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Just wanted to throw this out there, I've been running DermaTrest @50mg ed, LGD @4mg ed, Osta @10mg ed and Letrone @ 1cap eod for the last week. Joint issues hit me Friday, I was very surprised after reading about it's positive joint benefits, but god damn this stuff must be strong to cause that. My wrists, elbows, ankles and knees were rough through the weekend. I haven't dosed since Friday and it seems to have subsided. I am going to switch to every third day and see how that pans out.
 
Yah it seems like it works REALLY good for some people. Not sure exactly why. Great for most. Like an estrogen nuke for some.
At least you know its working ;)
 
I have been running 1 cap of Letrone ED with 2 Pumps of Exotherm and 20 mg Nolvadex for PCT, when performing front squats my training partner has commented that my knees sound like bubble wrap popping.

I am not in any discomfort with my joints though, its just my ankles, shoulders and knees crunching and popping when moving around.
 
paul56778 said:
I have been running 1 cap of Letrone ED with 2 Pumps of Exotherm and 20 mg Nolvadex for PCT, when performing front squats my training partner has commented that my knees sound like bubble wrap popping.

I am not in any discomfort with my joints though, its just my ankles, shoulders and knees crunching and popping when moving around.
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That's good that there is no discomfort. I've been running Exotherm ever since it was released between 2-3 dose per day. Last week or two joints have gotten a little achy so it might be time for me to cycle off for a bit, but I really don't want to:).
Your PCT setup sounds nice. Is it going well?
 
Yes strength is maintaining along with weight I am now 15 days in and am dropping Nolva to 10 mg for the last two weeks.

For the past 4-5 days I have had achy balls in the evenings that lasts for 1-3 hours usually at 5-6 pm through to 8pm.
 
paul56778 said:
Yes strength is maintaining along with weight I am now 15 days in and am dropping Nolva to 10 mg for the last two weeks.

For the past 4-5 days I have had achy balls in the evenings that lasts for 1-3 hours usually at 5-6 pm through to 8pm.
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Lol. Achy balls! I've had that before too. It sucks.:(
 
paul56778 said:
I have been running 1 cap of Letrone ED with 2 Pumps of Exotherm and 20 mg Nolvadex for PCT, when performing front squats my training partner has commented that my knees sound like bubble wrap popping.

I am not in any discomfort with my joints though, its just my ankles, shoulders and knees crunching and popping when moving around.
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Yeah I'm cracking an popping all over the place lol
 
Lol a little creaky is ok. Its the brutal joint pain I cant handle. The dose was set just under the point where most experienced issues.
Unfortunately some are sensitive.
 
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