Landis tests positive
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ktw
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You would be surprised. Ulrich and Basso were at the top of their game and they were involved in that huge doping scandal.
Also, Landis was complaining about intense hip pain, you never know what they could have given him. Also remember that stage where he miraculously went from 11th to 1st.
Also, Landis was complaining about intense hip pain, you never know what they could have given him. Also remember that stage where he miraculously went from 11th to 1st.
flytrapcan
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I don't think these guys consider the consequences of getting caught, cause they won't get get caught... and then they do. 
Stinger124
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Not sure if I am correct or not, but I thought I just saw where Armstrong admitted to taking steroids.. If he admitted it, Landis should have known that he would get caught.
I hope it is a legit win..
I hope it is a legit win..
Ronin13
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Armstrong never admitted to taking steroids.
I think the US riders were under intense pressure to perform this year at the tour and considering Landis nearly died in stage 16 from Bourg d’Oisans to La Toussuire and recovered so amazingly in stage 17 is pretty suspect. He went from sitting in 11th to 3rd overall by making up more than 8 minutes. I was blessed enough to attend ever Tour that Armstrong won and yes, he always performed well but never did he ever perform at such a level with little or no effort such as Landis did in stage 17. I am afraid to say this but I think Landis is guilty. I hope the evidence proves other wise.
I think the US riders were under intense pressure to perform this year at the tour and considering Landis nearly died in stage 16 from Bourg d’Oisans to La Toussuire and recovered so amazingly in stage 17 is pretty suspect. He went from sitting in 11th to 3rd overall by making up more than 8 minutes. I was blessed enough to attend ever Tour that Armstrong won and yes, he always performed well but never did he ever perform at such a level with little or no effort such as Landis did in stage 17. I am afraid to say this but I think Landis is guilty. I hope the evidence proves other wise.
Stinger124 said:
flytrapcan
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Ronin13 said:
You surprised me with that response after the posting in Le Monde Daily (Invalid Link Removed). I've looked for an english paper reporting the same but I haven't been able to find a thing.
After some more searching I found Invalid Link Removed in which Armstrong disputes the Le Monde article.
kwyckemynd00
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EXACTLY! Nobody should be surprised by any of this. If they'd test the top 100 they'd probably come back 100% positive.drunk said:
kwyckemynd00
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Its so the organizations can look "responsible" to the ignorant public.
CROWLER
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NO WAY will the test hold up. BTW this is the French we are talking about. The same lab that said Lance Armstrong was doping and it was later proved wrong.
Lance NEVER said he took anything illegal.
As far as Landis again NO way he did it for the following reasons.
A few days earlier he tested neg for elevated testosterone level. The dumbass press is saying well how did he go from dying on one day and then a superman the next.
EVERY time I had a bad workout in bike racing the very next day I had a GREAT day. I have no idea why and no I don't have a pubmed article to confrim this
I just know it was true for me.
If anyone knows of a testosterone that in ONE day can make you go from dying while riding to supermann the next day please link us to it. BTW anyone ever do a cycle of testosterone and then try and do cardio for 6 hours
CROWLER
Lance NEVER said he took anything illegal.
As far as Landis again NO way he did it for the following reasons.
A few days earlier he tested neg for elevated testosterone level. The dumbass press is saying well how did he go from dying on one day and then a superman the next.
EVERY time I had a bad workout in bike racing the very next day I had a GREAT day. I have no idea why and no I don't have a pubmed article to confrim this
I just know it was true for me.If anyone knows of a testosterone that in ONE day can make you go from dying while riding to supermann the next day please link us to it. BTW anyone ever do a cycle of testosterone and then try and do cardio for 6 hours
CROWLER
Ronin13
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drunk said:
Keep in mind that when you are at Armstrong's level you can be randomly tested 24/7/365... there is never a vacation and you must let the testing authority know your where abouts at all times. He was the most tested of any athlete. There is no way he could have doped and got away with it. Period.
Anyway, Armstrong didn't have to dope. He trained year round and had millions of dollars thrown into his lap by sponsors for taking cycling into the future from the lightest and strongest carbon fiber to wind tunnel tests for time trial positioning and to minimize drag on his Nike racing attire. He had every angle beaten. Doping was just not necessary.
kwyckemynd00
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Common knowledge! D'uh! :lol:spatch said:
I don't care who takes what b/c chances are the next guy will if you don't. That's pretty much the end of story. And, with all of the money in these sports requiring a mandatory test that would be drops in the bucket to them would be EASY!!!! They only test a few so they can provide the allusion of responsibility and let the rest slide by so the entertainment provided by these athletes keeps rising to new levels.
anabolicrhino
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rpen22 said:
I heard that his test was normal but his Epi-test was abnormally low, which is very unusal. Endurance event can lower your test levels, but I am not sure what lower Epi-test.