Kickstart HPTA

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Absolutely! I recommend cod liver oil over regular fish oil though. I like the Vitacost brand Cod Liver Oil.
I really like the Vitacost Synergy Liquid Purified Fish Oil Omega-3 EPA & DHA Orange. It is a 16.9 oz bottle and has about 50 servings. As gross as it sounds, the orange flavored liquid mixed with vanilla protein tastes like a 50/50 bar. If that doesn't sound weird enough, I will add some orange flavored Metamucil as well, and that helps with a certain "unpleasant" reaction some people have when supplementing with protein powder.
 

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If the Viron and Rebirth work or spike my HPTA into allowing me to having morning wood and increased libido with firm erections would I ask my doc for to switch me back to androgen axis because before things which used to contribute to flare ups on my skin (causing high dht like dairy which I couldn’t eat before now cause my breast to hurt which tells me I’m in an estrogenic state rather than anabolic state.
 
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If the Viron and Rebirth work or spike my HPTA into allowing me to having morning wood and increased libido with firm erections would I ask my doc for to switch me back to androgen axis because before things which used to contribute to flare ups on my skin (causing high dht like dairy which I couldn’t eat before now cause my breast to hurt which tells me I’m in an estrogenic state rather than anabolic state.
What is androgen axis?
 
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I mean right now I’m aromatising my test to estrogen most probably not to dht. How do I flip it back ?
Your testosterone will aromatize to both estrogen and DHT. By using Letrone, you may have less test aromatizing to estrogen. You may end up having more convert to DHT, but you'll just have to find out. Over time, I believe you should be putting out a normal amount of DHT again.
 

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Zinc causing breast pain. Any thoughts on this?
 

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It shouldn't, but aromatizing more estrogen would cause some nipple area pain.
I thought zinc inhibited aromatase? Or is it that it is inhibiting aromatase and allowing progesterone to get higher?
 
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I thought zinc inhibited aromatase? Or is it that it is inhibiting aromatase and allowing progesterone to get higher?
Zinc itself isn't a very potent AI.
 

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I had a weeks worth of good libido and erection on it but with itchy burning nipple and tender breast and now it seems I’m back where I have started with crappy libido and ED
 
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I’m a huge fan of Maca for libido. Sorry you’re struggling!
 

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DHT bloods:

Ref range 0.33 - 3.01 nmol/L

Result: 2.45 nmol/L
 
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I am currently on butea and black ginger, Carnitine, Peak o2 - my libido def improved lately. Butea is something def to try
 

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I am currently on butea and black ginger, Carnitine, Peak o2 - my libido def improved lately. Butea is something def to try
Are you allowed to share what brand of Butea and the dosage you are using?
 

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Anyone:

Would a SERM lower progesterone? I read it would increase progesterone?
 
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Hi guys,

Looking to kickstart HPTA and was wondering if I should run some Rebirth with Viron or Rebirth with Viron and Letrone?

Not done any cycles but was on finasteride which increased my libido and then it tanked with high prolactin and I feel as though in an estrogen bound state with tender Breasts and ED. Similar to what you body builders face when injecting/ingesting Test.

Could the above help?
increasing DHT might just solve ur estrogen/ nipple issues. DHT will displace E from breast, also help as AI too.

if further prolactin decrease is needed then b6, mucuna, vitex / inhibit-p.

i think butea is great for dht - my beard is thickening up. Also, creatine, sorghum.
 
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i think butea is great for dht - my beard is thickening up. Also, creatine, sorghum.
I have been wanting to try Butea. Funny, re your comment on sorghum, I don't know anyone other than you and me that take it.
 
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I have been wanting to try Butea. Funny, re your comment on sorghum, I don't know anyone other than you and me that take it.
I put some flour in my oatmeal and also use the flour when I make pancakes for the family.
 

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Day 1: 05/05/2021

Viron started today, 1 cap in the morning, so nipple pain seems to have gone down, I didn't have puffy nipples today. Week 5 on caber. I think the Viron has helped but still very early days. I don't think I will add on Rebirth unless I start getting gyno symptoms? Is this a good idea? I have Letrone on hand too just in case.
 
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Day 1: 05/05/2021

Viron started today, 1 cap in the morning, so nipple pain seems to have gone down, I didn't have puffy nipples today. Week 5 on caber. I think the Viron has helped but still very early days. I don't think I will add on Rebirth unless I start getting gyno symptoms? Is this a good idea? I have Letrone on hand too just in case.
What your doing sounds fine to me.
 

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I’ll do a weekly log as I don’t want to bombard everyone in this post constantly.

Day 2, increase in acne spots
 

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Should I just stick to Rebirth and Viron then?

I take it testicle ache is normal on Rebirth due to HPTA restart?
 
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