I believe OL stated that there was an issue with the supplier of some of the ingredients? I could be wrong though.Are we able to get any insight on what has been causing all the delays. I too, was expecting this back in april.
They should just get it from BLR lolI believe OL stated that there was an issue with the supplier of some of the ingredients? I could be wrong though.
BLR doesnt use the studied extract, so they wouldnt get the right oneThey should just get it from BLR lol
So same ingredient, different extract?BLR doesnt use the studied extract, so they wouldnt get the right one
Thank you kindly for the good words. Vector is garnering a great following now with people achieving amazing results, and continues to do so. That said, this thread isn't about BLR, or Vector.They should just get it from BLR lol
Since you responded as you did towards the gent's joviality.BLR doesnt use the studied extract, so they wouldnt get the right one
Can potentially be a HUGE difference. NoAddedHmones has explained this very well in the past, so hopefully we can get him in here. But in the meantime, consider that what something is extracted for can make a massive difference. I believe the example that he used before was the olive leaf extract that we use in Assass1nate vs Ignit3. Both come from the same plant, but Assass1nate's olive leaf extract is extracted to be high in Hydroxytyrosol, which inhibits the CB1 receptor, and Ignit3's olive leaf extract is extracted to be high in oleuropein, which is anti-adipogenic and reduces body fat. Same plant, different extract, very different effects. Alternately, you could have an olive leaf extract that is extracted for neither of those two compounds, and could potentially contain trace amounts of the actives. And that's even if it is a 100:1 extract or something, which simply means that 100 parts raw material to 1 part extracted material, but does not specify how many actives are used. You could have a 100:1 longjack that is low quality and lacking in glycosaponins and eurypeptides compared to a controlled extract like LJ100, for example.So same ingredient, different extract?
What is the difference in the end?
Great explanation and love the professionalism!Can potentially be a HUGE difference. NoAddedHmones has explained this very well in the past, so hopefully we can get him in here. But in the meantime, consider that what something is extracted for can make a massive difference. I believe the example that he used before was the olive leaf extract that we use in Assass1nate vs Ignit3. Both come from the same plant, but Assass1nate's olive leaf extract is extracted to be high in Hydroxytyrosol, which inhibits the CB1 receptor, and Ignit3's olive leaf extract is extracted to be high in oleuropein, which is anti-adipogenic and reduces body fat. Same plant, different extract, very different effects. Alternately, you could have an olive leaf extract that is extracted for neither of those two compounds, and could potentially contain trace amounts of the actives. And that's even if it is a 100:1 extract or something, which simply means that 100 parts raw material to 1 part extracted material, but does not specify how many actives are used. You could have a 100:1 longjack that is low quality and lacking in glycosaponins and eurypeptides compared to a controlled extract like LJ100, for example.
None of this is to badmouth Vector, btw. I honestly do not know what they're extracting for, it may be a very good extract. But that's also why we're not using the same material as them...we don't know what the extract is. We know what ours is, it's exactly what was used in these studies:
NJ Lima, et al. Experimental Gerontology. Volume 87, Part A, January 2017, Pages 48-56. A combination of Korean mistletoe extract and resistance exercise retarded the decline in muscle mass and strength in the elderly: A randomized controlled trial.
J Jeong, et al. BMC Complementary and Alternative Medicine. January 2017. 17:68. https://doi.org/10.1186/s12906-017-1575-9é. Korean mistletoe (Viscum album coloratum) extract regulates gene expression related to muscle atrophy and muscle hypertrophy.
HY Jung, et al. Journal of Medicinal Food. Vol. 15: , Issue. 7, : Pages. 621-628. July 2012. https://doi.org/10.1089/jmf.2010.1469. Korean Mistletoe (Viscum album coloratum) Extract Improves Endurance Capacity in Mice by Stimulating Mitochondrial Activity.
im just writing the truth.
Nice, right around the corner!By the way, everyone, May 28th is the day!!! Thanks for your patience, it will be worth the wait!!
Yes it will be here shortly so everyone can stop playing the waiting gameNice, right around the corner!
Comes out on memorial day?By the way, everyone, May 28th is the day!!! Thanks for your patience, it will be worth the wait!!
Why do you insist on poking the bear?Thank you kindly for the good words. Vector is garnering a great following now with people achieving amazing results, and continues to do so. That said, this thread isn't about BLR, or Vector.
Since you responded as you did towards the gent's joviality.
All three ingredients discussed in detail on BLR
Please do continue with K1ngslayer as per the OP.
Nice catch, we will be launching on the 29th, Tuesday. I think we would all like to enjoy the extra day off and get some BBQing in.Comes out on memorial day?
Does that mean 75% off super launch sale?
Thank you for your service!
Are you talking about the write-up discussing the benefits of betaine coming from an extract dosed at 1g/day?Why do you insist on poking the bear?
Also while you are at it, perhaps enlighten everyone on what each of the actives listed in that write up efficacious dosages are, at what amounts the are present in the 1g active annnnnd finally, whats changed with ursolic acid since:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4852806
Or do as all of us OL reps do (not post in BLR related threads advertising OL) and have even a hint of decency you shill.
He’ll give you the ole “we don’t reveal our secrets to protect our products from being duplicated” nonsense, but that’s just to conceal his lack of knowledge regarding the ingredients. That, or, he’s completely aware and doesn’t reveal that info bc it might not live up to OL’s standards and may provide people with the smoking gun that shows how substandard the extracts are in Vector.
Let's just get this thread back on track for the launch of K1NGS SLAYER, don't want to get into a pissing match that obviously never ends well. I made my point and won't be able to sleep if Justhereforcomm neg reps me again LOL :whiner:Are you talking about the write-up discussing the benefits of betaine coming from an extract dosed at 1g/day?
Are we able to get any insight on what has been causing all the delays. I too, was expecting this back in april.
This was a manufacturer delay unrelated to ingredient supply. All components were there but their manufacturing process was interrupted.I believe OL stated that there was an issue with the supplier of some of the ingredients? I could be wrong though.
This is piss poor behavior. I don’t ever recall anyone from OL going into any BLR threads to schill and post links. Not to mention this is our new product release thread.Thank you kindly for the good words. Vector is garnering a great following now with people achieving amazing results, and continues to do so. That said, this thread isn't about BLR, or Vector.
Since you responded as you did towards the gent's joviality.
All three ingredients discussed in detail on BLR
Please do continue with K1ngslayer as per the OP.
Finally! Gains coming for us all!By the way, everyone, May 28th is the day!!! Thanks for your patience, it will be worth the wait!!
I heard 110% offComes out on memorial day?
Does that mean 75% off super launch sale?
Thank you for your service!
Can't wait to see how people like this stuff and results they get from it.Let's just get this thread back on track for the launch of K1NGS SLAYER, don't want to get into a pissing match that obviously never ends well. I made my point and won't be able to sleep if Justhereforcomm neg reps me again LOL :whiner:
Doesn't that mean strong would pay us 10%?I heard 110% off
Sounds like a good deal to me. Were giving strong a 90% off discount.Doesn't that mean strong would pay us 10%?
Hahaha
I bet Ep1logue or Massacr3 would be great additions to itAre there any stacking suggestions you guys have for slayer? I need some royal gains!
Free for the first 100 people at the front door.:dance:Is there going to be any initial discount?
Stacks very well with several products. Massacr3 and Ep1logue, as mentioned above, stack just fine. What are your goals? Let's start there and we can figure out a stack for you.Are there any stacking suggestions you guys have for slayer? I need some royal gains!
Excellent idea, I fully endorse it.Thinking I will throw in some slayer during pct for a lil boost
I originally stacked Or1gin and kings blood and it was a great stackAre there any stacking suggestions you guys have for slayer? I need some royal gains!
Definitely sounds like a nice idea for an extra pct kicker.Thinking I will throw in some slayer during pct for a lil boost
No cycle is worth it if you crash in PCT. This would definitely be a very smart tool in that phase.Definitely sounds like a nice idea for an extra pct kicker.
By the way, everyone, May 28th is the day!!! Thanks for your patience, it will be worth the wait!!
I've seen two dates, seems to be either the 28th or 29th.Nice catch, we will be launching on the 29th, Tuesday. I think we would all like to enjoy the extra day off and get some BBQing in.
As for 75% off.....
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