John Meadows 2.0 programs

The Solution said:
I just finished 6 weeks. VERY much enjoyed it
If you like Project Colossus and where you focus on high intensity, beating the logbook, and moderate volume you will have a blast. It is really mentally challenging as you are structured with simple movements and he builds on them week in and week out with reps and volume.

I am going to run it for another 6 weeks and see if i can beat all my numbers after the first 6 weeks of running it.
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How long do the workout typically take you? I haven’t tried any of his high intensity programs yet but assumed the same as the volume ones just due to the warmups needed even tho the working volume is lower
 
The Solution said:
I just finished 6 weeks. VERY much enjoyed it
If you like Project Colossus and where you focus on high intensity, beating the logbook, and moderate volume you will have a blast. It is really mentally challenging as you are structured with simple movements and he builds on them week in and week out with reps and volume.

I am going to run it for another 6 weeks and see if i can beat all my numbers after the first 6 weeks of running it.
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How long do the workout typically take you? I haven’t tried any of his high intensity programs yet but assumed the same as the volume ones just due to the warmups needed even tho the working volume is lower
 
booneman77 said:
How long do the workout typically take you? I haven’t tried any of his high intensity programs yet but assumed the same as the volume ones just due to the warmups needed even tho the working volume is lower
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45-60 minutes with following the rest periods on his program to a T. The intensity is rough maybe 70 minutes on leg day
 
Starting CD 2.0 tomorrow. First Meadows program I have ever run. I kept hearing about the Bulgarian drop set of death. Yesterday was leg day, so I thought I would give the first leg day a try. I watched the video on it, and she did a lot better than I did, is all I can say.
 
nickodemus said:
Starting CD 2.0 tomorrow. First Meadows program I have ever run. I kept hearing about the Bulgarian drop set of death. Yesterday was leg day, so I thought I would give the first leg day a try. I watched the video on it, and she did a lot better than I did, is all I can say.
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Have fun with it!
 
nickodemus said:
Starting CD 2.0 tomorrow. First Meadows program I have ever run. I kept hearing about the Bulgarian drop set of death. Yesterday was leg day, so I thought I would give the first leg day a try. I watched the video on it, and she did a lot better than I did, is all I can say.
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Haha that’s pretty common with his programs... vids look easy (ish)... reality is fcking brutal ha
 
The Solution said:
After 1 Week I have to say this program has me drained.
My leg vascularity today was unreal with the Bulgarian drop set of death, on top of really hard squats with an RPE of 9 and sets of 10.

The biggest challenge is the drop sets on the pressing movements on the chest/shoulder workouts. I am really looking forward to trying to match the logbook over the 6 weeks when running the program as the exercise selection does not deviate much. The only thing vastly changing is the rep scheme and increased intensity techniques.

Anyone else running it ATM!?
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I can’t wait to start at end of month. Currently on phase 2 of gamma bomb. These leg days are getting so brutal. No pwo, no headphones, just pain hahaha
 
JovenEspañol said:
What is the best meadows workout for natural people??
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Any of them are fine to run natty. It’s personal preference on style (intensity vs volume) and days/wk you want... what do you like/respond well to?
 
booneman77 said:
Any of them are fine to run natty. It’s personal preference on style (intensity vs volume) and days/wk you want... what do you like/respond well to?
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Well, I have tried CDII, but it had a lot of volume for me... I read that the new routines, that have less volume and more intensity are better for naturals. I would have to give them a try, do you recommend someone specially?
 
JovenEspañol said:
Well, I have tried CDII, but it had a lot of volume for me... I read that the new routines, that have less volume and more intensity are better for naturals. I would have to give them a try, do you recommend someone specially?
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Personally I'm more of a volume guy so it's hard to say but Colossus seems to have gotten a lot of love lately even being that new
 
booneman77 said:
Personally I'm more of a volume guy so it's hard to say but Colossus seems to have gotten a lot of love lately even being that new
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Id say CD2 is basically PC with more volume, just more sets per exercises in a lot of cases. I’d say PC if you’re trying to cut and need time/energy for cardio, otherwise CD2. And you can always cut a set here and there to trim volume a little if needed.
 
jrock645 said:
Id say CD2 is basically PC with more volume, just more sets per exercises in a lot of cases. I’d say PC if you’re trying to cut and need time/energy for cardio, otherwise CD2. And you can always cut a set here and there to trim volume a little if needed.
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Totally disagree here. Cd2 is a tooonnnn of volume. If he doesn’t like volume he will burn out in 2 weeks and hate it
 
jrock645 said:
Id say CD2 is basically PC with more volume, just more sets per exercises in a lot of cases. I’d say PC if you’re trying to cut and need time/energy for cardio, otherwise CD2. And you can always cut a set here and there to trim volume a little if needed.
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Totally disagree here. Cd2 is a tooonnnn of volume. If he doesn’t like volume he will burn out in 2 weeks and hate it
 
jrock645 said:
Id say CD2 is basically PC with more volume, just more sets per exercises in a lot of cases. I’d say PC if you’re trying to cut and need time/energy for cardio, otherwise CD2. And you can always cut a set here and there to trim volume a little if needed.
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Totally disagree here. Cd2 is a tooonnnn of volume. If he doesn’t like volume he will burn out in 2 weeks and hate it
 
booneman77 said:
Totally disagree here. Cd2 is a tooonnnn of volume. If he doesn’t like volume he will burn out in 2 weeks and hate it
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which part exactly do you disagree with? I said CD2 is more volume. What I meant was it’s similar exercise selection and you even see a lot of the same intensity techniques- you’ll often just do more sets in CD2 than in pc
 
jrock645 said:
which part exactly do you disagree with? I said CD2 is more volume. What I meant was it’s similar exercise selection and you even see a lot of the same intensity techniques- you’ll often just do more sets in CD2 than in pc
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Just disagree that as a recommendation for someone that just said they don’t like volume ha
 
booneman77 said:
Personally I'm more of a volume guy so it's hard to say but Colossus seems to have gotten a lot of love lately even being that new
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What I don’t really like about CDII is that the volume does not change along the 12 training weeks. You actually do every weeks the same number of sets. For this reason I would actually prefer GB. However I will give PC a try.

Next week I’ll do a deload week before starting with PC.

After that I’ll post my feeling here.
 
Looking for a program that is a good mix of push/pull/legs for strength and hypertrophy. Thinking 3 days of strength and 3 of hypertrophy. I know it’s a fairly standard layout but I’d welcome any suggestions and this would be done at home.
 
Oconns28 said:
Looking for a program that is a good mix of push/pull/legs for strength and hypertrophy. Thinking 3 days of strength and 3 of hypertrophy. I know it’s a fairly standard layout but I’d welcome any suggestions and this would be done at home.
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Creeping Death 2.0
Gamma Bomb
Run at 6 days
 
Oconns28 said:
Looking for a program that is a good mix of push/pull/legs for strength and hypertrophy. Thinking 3 days of strength and 3 of hypertrophy. I know it’s a fairly standard layout but I’d welcome any suggestions and this would be done at home.
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CD2 would be my reccomendation tho its not a true split of power/hyper days like that... Meadows programs really are more strictly for size vs power even tho they do get heavy at times... for your needs I really would look more at PHAT as that is exactly what you're looking for. Shoot me a pm with your email and I can send you one of the PHAT templates I built/used that would be exactly what you're looking for (if you want)
 
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