Finished X-factor a few days ago and RPM around the end of May.
Measurements this morning:
172 lbs (+2)
Chest - 40" (no change)
Arms - 15.1 (or .2) plus a bit
Waist - 31" at both places
Legs - R quad 21.5", L quad 22.5" (+0.5")
Calves - 15.5" (+.25")
Initial stats quoted below.
Stats:
28 years old
5'11"
170 lbs this morning
Chest - 40"
Arms - 15"
Waist at belly button (relaxed - not holding stomach in) - 31"
Waist at hips - 30.5" (a bit bloated)
Quads - 21" for left, 22" for right
calves - 15.25"
No real upperbody change, but some pretty damn good lower body growth.
This is reflected in strength gains, detailed below.
Legs:
Leg presses - +60 lbs
Lunges - +30 lbs
stiff legged deads - +20 lbs
calf raises - +50 lbs
leg extensions - +40 lbs (when knee coroporated)
hamstring curls - +10 lbs
Back:
t-bar rows: +15 lbs
pullups: +10 lbs
seated Hammer Strength rows: +5 lbs
lat pulldowns - no change
Chest:
bench: +5 lbs
dumbell bench: +5 lbs
dips: no change
incline: no change
decline: +5 lbs
incline dumbell flys: +5 lbs
Biceps:
alternating dumbell curls: +5 lbs
preacher curls: +10 lbs
barbell curls: no change
hammer curls: no change
concentration curls: no change
Triceps:
pressdowns: +5 lbs
overhead dumbell extensions: +10 lbs (hadn't done these much before I started this stack, don't take a lot of stock)
skullcrushers: no change
rope pressdowns: no change
Delts:
lateral dumbell raises: +5 lbs
upright rows: no change
Hammer Strength military presses: +20 lbs
Traps:
behind neck barbell shrugs: no change but much better control of weight
shrugs (Hammer strength): +40 lbs
The % increases in weight lifted for reps with my legs is freaking huge compared to the upperbody stuff (save for traps).
I wouldn't concentrate just on the absolute weight increase. I wasn't able to do much with my legs - just got too fatigued.
Pictures to come tomorrow.
Thoughts
I really like Drive. Good product for PCT esp. Just wish AN would make a huge bottle.
RPM is good - but it doesn't give me any energy boost after maybe 2 or 3 weeks. The last month was really nothing.
The iicarin in it was good to keep the libido up that Drive started (not nearly as high as when Drive was included though).
X-factor is some good stuff for strength. It's the 2nd best non-steroid supplement I've taken for strength. I'd put it slightly ahead of Powerfull but still behind on MassFX.
I WILL run X-factor again (have the bulk powder from NP). Same with Drive.
I will say the soreness on XF is pretty pronounced. I couldn't carry around a dumbell without my traps getting a pump or becoming pretty sore. It seems to prolong my lower back soreness after leg day (same goes for glutes, hams, and quads - just the lower back is most pronounced).
Back and chest soreness were probably a day longer than before I started this stack. Made for some cool lingering sort-of pumps.
Arm soreness really didn't seem to change. Shoulders were longer. I was actually able to make them sore, which doesn't happen much at all.
Calves were sore pretty much all the damn time. I blamed that on the incline cardio I was doing coupled with XF.
Overall good stack. Added strength and lower body size. I think I look more in proportion. I honestly didn't need big upperbody gains. I already look like a beach lifter (with my legs so small).
This stack really helped me more even out.
Thanks Molecular and AppNut!
You guys rock.