Jim's Experience with CL White Flood Reborn (newest formula)

[Hyde]

That's exactly how I'd describe our bubblegum flavor. Smooth, spot on, and easy enough to enjoy daily. I actually really like all the flavors, but this one tastes EXACTLY as expected.

 

[jimbuick]

Another 65 minute day, all included for ME Lower

w1. Lunges: BW x 20 x 2
w2. Back Ext: BW x 15 x 2
w3. Band GM: Green x 20 x 2

SSB Oly Pause Squat (2 count): work to 138kg x 3

https://www.instagram.com/p/BITiUuPh-yF/

SSB Oly Squat (beltless): 108kg x 8, 128kg x 6

Banded GHR: Red x 5, 6, 5

RH: 180 x 15 x 2

Hanging Knee Raise: BW x 15

 

[MrKleen73]

Looking good Jim!

 

[jimbuick]

Looking good Jim!

Thanks bud, things are going pretty well atm.

 

[jimbuick]

ME Bench:

w1. Chinning Triangle Pulldown: 60 x 20 x 2
w2. Push-Up: BW x 20 x 2
w3. Face pull: Red x 20 x 2

WG Swiss Bench (feet up): 15kg x 12, 65kg x 5, 85kg x 2, 95kg x 2, 105kg x 2, 110kg x 2 (242#)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIYd2-YhK5H/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIYeDObhd5h/

CG Swiss Bench (feet up): 85kg x 5, 90kg x 5

Vogelpohl Row (chinning triangle): 60 x 15, 80 x 15

a1. Band Pushdown (2 sec hold): Purple Band x 20 x 3
a2. EZ bar Curl: 45 x 20, 55 x 20, 55 x 12

WG OH Lat Pulldown: 100 x 30 sec--90 x 30 sec


Was supposed to be a 60 second set but I couldn't do that much weight. Was only a big enough break to switch the pin (~3 seconds).

Was a good one today, and I'm pretty sure that would be a PR weight for a double even with a full comp setup.


3/4 scoop is definitely where the magic is at for me.

 

[Hyde]

Did you like Raspberry Lemonade?

 

[jimbuick]

Did you like Raspberry Lemonade?

It's the best of the 3 IMO.


My wife is a big fan of the RL as well.

 

[Hyde]

It's the best of the 3 IMO.


My wife is a big fan of the RL as well.

I liked Rapids in RL flavor a lot so I assume Flood will be great too - thanks for the feedback!

How have the squats been feeling on your back? Anything you're staying away from right now? Sure isn't slowing your bench down.

 

[MrKleen73]

Nice work and congrats on that PR.

 

[jimbuick]

I liked Rapids in RL flavor a lot so I assume Flood will be great too - thanks for the feedback!

How have the squats been feeling on your back? Anything you're staying away from right now? Sure isn't slowing your bench down.

Olympic style squatting is OK. I'm not doing box squats (compression from both sides? No thanks), heavy DL, or GMs yet. Will likely stay away from comp squatting with the more hip dominant stance for a few more weeks as well.

 

[jimbuick]

DE Lower

w1. BSS: BW x 8 x 2
w2. Back Ext: BW x 15 x 2
w3. Band GM: Purple x 20 x 2

Oly Shoe Squat (Mid Bar): 70kg x 2 x 8

Con. DL: 108kg x 1 x 6

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIbCzwTAZhC/

DB RDL: 75 x 12 x 3
AB Rollout: BW x 9, BW x F (lol)
RH: 180 x 20

A little under 60 minutes today, not bad at all.

 

[jimbuick]

DE Bench

w1. Lat Pulldown (triangle handle): 60 x 20 x 2
w2. Cross Body Tri Pushdown (Grenade): 20 x 12 x 2
w3. Band Hammer Curl: Green x 20 x 2

CG Feet Up Bench (against red): 50kg x 3 x 6

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIjTFNLAKGZ/

Strict DB Row: 60 x 20, 65 x 15, 70 x 10
Kroc Row: 85 x 15

JM Press (lower to mouth): 40kg x 8 x 2, 41kg x 9

a1. Seated Cable Row (triangle): 110 x 20 x 2
a2. Push-ups (T3-0-X): BW x 12, 11

DB Upright Row: 30 x 12, 11, 12


About 65 minutes today.

 

[MrKleen73]

Nice workout Jim!

 

[jimbuick]

ME Lower

w1. Split Squat: BW x 10 x 2 (per leg)
w2. Single Leg Glute Bridge: BW x 10 x 2 (per leg)
w3. Band GM: Purple x 20 x 2

Cambered Bar Oly Squat (against doubled reds): 145kg x 1

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIlxKuzgY08/

a1. Belt Squat: 230 x 15 x 2
a2. Hyperextensions: BW x 15 x 2

Pallof Press: Green x 12 x 2


Not bad today. Would've liked more but working to the top set ate a lot of time.

 

[MrKleen73]

Nice work Jim!

 

[jimbuick]

ME Bench

w1. Cross Body Pushdown (grenade): 10 x 20 x 2
w2. Face pull: Red x 20 x 2
w3. Hammer Curl: Green x 20 x 2

Feet Up CG Pause Bench (2 count): 20kg x 6, 40kg x 2, 70kg x 2, 100kg x 1, 110kg x 1, 112.5kg x 1, 115kg x F

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIqfXq3AanE/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIqfd6wATnV/

-Pause

95kg x 5 x 2

NG Pull up: BW x 8 x 2

a1. EZ Bar rolling Tri: 89 x 8 x 2
a2. DB Hammer Curl: 30 x 12, 13

 

[jimbuick]

DE Lower

w1. Back Ext: BW x 15 x 2
w2. Goblet Squat: 35 x 15 x 2

Mid Bar Oly Squat: 79kg (+reds) x 2 x 6

Con. DL: 118kg x 1 x 4

DB RDL (banded, band on traps/under feet): 65 (+ Purple) x 10, 65 (+red and purple) x 9 x 2

RH: 180 x 20 x 2
EZ Bar Rollout: BW x 9, 6


Had a little but of ramping on the deadlifts. Will have to iron that out before the meet. It isn't uncommon after I hurt my back, it's like my body believes that to be safer or something....


RDLs felt good, but the forearm pump was too much to get any more.

 

[Hyde]

That's a good session man; I can feel the burn almost from those banded Db RDLs. Still feeling good on 3/4 scoop?

 

[Sean1332]

Those banded DB RDL's are awesome. I've been a puss and wearing straps for them so I can't comment on the forearm pump lol

 

[jimbuick]

That's a good session man; I can feel the burn almost from those banded Db RDLs. Still feeling good on 3/4 scoop?

Yeah, I cant think of any reason to use any more than that tbh.

Haven't commented about it recently because I haven't had a lot to add. All of the training sessions have been going very well for the last few weeks so I've just been focusing on that.

Those banded DB RDL's are awesome. I've been a puss and wearing straps for them so I can't comment on the forearm pump lol

I've got weak little baby hands so I can't use straps lol.

 

[jimbuick]

Unload Upper


w1. Swiss Pulldown (Wide): 70 x 20 x 2
w2. Band Pushdown: Red x 20 x 2
w3. Band Face pull: Red x 20 x 2

CG Bench (comp setup): 62.5kg x 10 x 10

DB Row: 80 x 8 x 3
Swiss Row (Middle Grip, 2 sec squeeze): 110 x 15, 12

Lateral Raise: 15 x 20 x 3
Band Pushdown: Purple x 100 (4 sets, rest pause)

Right around 55 minutes including warm-up.


3/4 scoop still the perfect amount for this, pump was ridiculous.

 

[Hyde]

Only 100 reps of bench? Geez...

 

[MrKleen73]

Nice work Jim!

 

[jimbuick]

w1. Belt Squat March: 180 x 14 x 2
w2. RH: 90 x 10 x 2

Comp. Squat: work to 175kg x 2

https://www.instagram.com/p/BI3XQSFAMgc/

Comp. DL: work to 170kg x 2 (was hoping to go to 180kg today)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BI3XC-FgJpp/

HLR: BW x 10 x 3


Not bad, but not great either. Tried moving the feet out a little on DL and had no power so I moved them back and hit the double.


Was much slower than it should have been.


Will be pulling a heavier single (190 or so) on week 6 after a heavier squat (185 or so).


Last heavy pull will be week 4, so about 3.5 weeks before the meet and it will be from a deficit as the main lift.

 

[Hyde]

Very nice work, Jim. Looking good.

 

[jimbuick]

ME Bench

w1. Hammer Curl: 15 x 15 x 2
w2. Lat Pulldown (WG): 70 X 15 X 2

Comp. Bench (pause): work to 115kg x 2

https://www.instagram.com/p/BI8g3UnATW9/

CG Bench: 90kg x 6, 8

Chin Ups: BW x 8, 7

a1. OH Band Pushdown: Purple x 17, AVG x 12 x 2
a2. DB Curl: 30 x 10 x 3


Not bad at all.

 

[jimbuick]

One more workout with white flood (tomorrow's).


I'll keep this log active for probably two weeks after this week while using a stim free preworkout to see what kind of performance drop off there is from one to the other.


Final review will come after that adjustment period.

 

[jimbuick]

"unload" lower


w1. Band Ext: BW x 15 x 2
w2. Split Squat: BW x 8 x 2 (per leg)

Comp Squats (beltless): 95kg x 10 x 5, 90kg x 10 x 3

GHR: BW x 7 x 2


And that was it. Only had 30 minutes or so to get it done today. Wanted 10 x 10 but was a little too ambitious with the weight.


Was sucking some serious wind.

 

[Hyde]

Nice way to put up the volume man!

 

[jimbuick]

It doesn't feel very nice today....



Legs are sore as ****. Probably hitting a sushi buffet today.

 

[jimbuick]

DE Bench

w1. Lat Pulldown: 70 x 15 x 3
w2. Push-Up: BW x 10 x 3
w3. Pull apart: Red x 20 x 3

Comp. Bench (against doubled reds): 37.5kg x 3 x 10

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJGmL1WA_v6/

1 arm DB OHP: 55 x 10, 9, 6
DB Rolling Tri: 35 x 5, 30 x 6 x 2

Seated Cable Row (triangle, 1 sec squeeze): 120 x 12 x 4
Facepull: Green x 30 x 3
Standing Low Pulley Row (WG Swiss): 80 x 20 x 2


Right around 50 minutes today.


First day without the white flood, was pretty tough to get going but was fine after the warm-up was done.

 

[Hyde]

Speed bench sucks without caffeine for me. I probably miss it more on that kind of work than a ME or heavy day even.

 

[jimbuick]

I'm also trying to work my way to getting up earlier in the morning to get used to it before classes start.


That probably doesn't help a whole lot

 

[jimbuick]

ME Lower


Temper


w1. Back Ext: BW x 15 x 2
w2. Split Squat: BW x 10 x 2
w3. Max Tension Plank (3 sec hold per rep): BW x 5 x 2


SSB Comp. Squat: 28kg x 5, 68kg x 2, 108kg x 1, 128kg x 1, 148kg x 1, 158kg x 1, 163kg x 1, 165.5kg x 1

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJJO88_AHRT/

20% drop: 128kg x 5 x 2 (beltless)

Belt Squat (converse): 180 x 60 sec x 3 (20/21/20 reps)

Rev. Hyper: 180 x 20 x 2
HLR: BW x 8 x 2, BW x 7


90 minutes including warm-up (not including tempering). Was up early enough to eat before this so I had 2 packets of instant oatmeal about an hour before this.


Not bad today. I was awake for 3 hours or so before starting, so that probably helped get going.

 

[MrKleen73]

Nice work. What are you using for tempering? Do you have the X-wife or whatever it is called?

 

[jimbuick]

Nice work. What are you using for tempering? Do you have the X-wife or whatever it is called?

Yeah, just picked one up yesterday.

 

[MrKleen73]

Yeah, just picked one up yesterday.

Might have to have you put me through some tempering when I come out.

 

[jimbuick]

Haven't been keeping this log going like I said I would, but have been pretty bad about updating my normal training log too so at least I'm consistent.


Anyway, training has been going pretty well so I figure now is as good a time as any to post a final review on the White Flood. I still have a little of the bubble gum flavor left, my wife has been using it for her training, but I don't use stims to train typically and can't use any for the meet prep so that the caffeine has a noticeable affect on meet day.



Final Review: White Flood

Taste: Over the course of this log, I had the opportunity to use all 3 of the flavors (thanks CL!). Out of the 3 (raspberry lemonade, fruit punch, and bubble gum) the raspberry lemonade is by far the best for me. It is a little tart, mixed with a tall glass of cold water, but it is enjoyable to drink before training. The fruit punch is a distant second for me, although I am not a big fan of fruit punch flavors. The fruit punch smells fantastic, and the first taste is very well done (similar to Hawaiian Punch). The aftertaste for the fruit punch is pretty unpleasant IMO. Bubble gum is the lowest rated flavor for me. However, the flavor itself is fairly well done. What I mean by that, is that the drink does taste a lot like bubble gum. They did a good job flavoring it that way, but a bubble gum flavor is a little weird for me before a workout. The bubble gum is definitely the sweetest of the three flavorings, and for some people that may be a big plus for this flavor. Overall, the flavors were all drinkable though and I didn't really have to choke down any before a workout.


Mixability: I mixed 3/4 scoop with a tall glass of water and stirred with a single chopstick. This worked well every time, with only a little left over in the glass (along it, usually) afterwards. It dissolved quickly, and any floating particulates that were left were very small so they were unnoticeable when drinking.

Pump: I will preface this by saying, I am not a pump chaser. Typically, too much of a pump is actually more annoying than anything as it makes it difficult to continue getting more reps. The pump with 3/4 scoop of white flood was good though, sometimes too much. This was most noticeable on my high rep work towards the end (lat pulldowns, curls, triceps, and belt squats). This is not going to be as pump dominant as something like High Volume or Max Reps, but it is definitely a noticeable increase over nothing and is not an extremely noticeable decrease from either of those other two pump products.

Energy: Ok, so typically I don't use any caffeine for a workout (in fact, I don't usually drink caffeine at all throughout the day). The stim on this is fairly mild though, at 3/4 scoop. Noticeable increase in energy that carries on for a few hours after ingesting, and with that comes an increased focus. I didn't notice too much of a difference with energy levels and focus during my workouts after I quit using WF, typically just a little more tired before warming up; but it picked up after I got moving. I did, however, notice a huge difference in how tired I have been after the workout when I get to work. I didn't really appreciate how big of a difference it was making after the workout. I was also unable to use more than 3/4 scoop without being too stimmed out, so for me 3/4 scoop was perfect.

Strength: N/A. My training is strength oriented, so it's impossible to say how big of a difference this has made over the progression in training by itself.


And that's it. Can't think of much else to add, and I think I covered most everything (at least the big stuff). I really appreciate CL offering me a chance to try it, and can definitely see myself purchasing more in the future (if for no one else but my wife, who uses stims before training).

 

[Hyde]

Sounds like you had a pretty decent experience - thank you for taking the time to see how it affected you! Good feedback

 

[MrKleen73]

Sounds like it performed as needed. I got a chance to sample the BubbleGum flavor, and it was indeed quite a bit like bubblegum. I will agree with Jim on the energy and pump from the product as well.

It is a just get it done kind of pre workout. Nothing overbearing, just a nice balanced pre-workout with just enough of everything at 1 scoop unless you are a stim fiend then you will need multiple doses.