JD's APS Nutrition New Years Revolution!

thebigt said:
i don't want you to mess yourself up-i would just like to see you on some kind of maintenance program until you get surgery and can go 100%. seen too many guys mess themselves up by pushing too hard with injuries.



good luck my friend.
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Ya I havn't had the best of luck with my foot being messed up and now my lower back has been causing me trouble. The back is really sore today, I may need 2 days off before I try to work it out.
 
JudgementDay said:
Ya I havn't had the best of luck with my foot being messed up and now my lower back has been causing me trouble. The back is really sore today, I may need 2 days off before I try to work it out.
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you are over compensating. by keeping presure off your foot you are inadvertently putting more strain on back.


be very selective of your routines. i wish celc5 still posted-he is a physical therapist and helped me with injuries in the past.
 
thebigt said:
you are over compensating. by keeping presure off your foot you are inadvertently putting more strain on back.


be very selective of your routines. i wish celc5 still posted-he is a physical therapist and helped me with injuries in the past.
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No it's definitely not from my foot thats causing the back pain, a couple months ago I was doing bent over barbell rows and it pulled, after that it seems to just keep pulling.
 
I re-aggravated my old slip disc injury to the point of being unable to walk for a couple days from bent over BB rows. Used to be my second favorite lift (behind deads).
 
HereToStudy said:
I stopped doing Bent Over BB Rows. The lift is awkward when you get heavy, and I felt like the injury risk outweighed the benefit.
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Ya it's really hard on the lower back and my back was weak to begin with from not working it enough. I was using 225 and on the 19th rep it pulled, prob not good that my upper back is a lot stronger then my lower back.

(fingers crossed It only gets stronger and stops pulling)
 
JudgementDay said:
Ya it's really hard on the lower back and my back was weak to begin with from not working it enough. I was using 225 and on the 19th rep it pulled, prob not good that my upper back is a lot stronger then my lower back.

(fingers crossed It only gets stronger and stops pulling)
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Did you ever try any of those rehab exercises I showed you? They will really help if you do them EVERY day. Ice that low back every night and keep something like mineral ice on it at all times. You'll smell like an old bastard but you'll feel better. Also, keep your hip flexors stretched and loose. It's amazing how much low back pain comes from those things. Hope you get it worked out bro!
 
Rahl said:
Did you ever try any of those rehab exercises I showed you? They will really help if you do them EVERY day. Ice that low back every night and keep something like mineral ice on it at all times. You'll smell like an old bastard but you'll feel better. Also, keep your hip flexors stretched and loose. It's amazing how much low back pain comes from those things. Hope you get it worked out bro!
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Ya I was doing that for 3 weeks with back extensions and hypers and it felt like it seems to be killin again, ugh I'm gonna try strengthening it back up again, I will have to rest a couple days tho, upping the Super Cissus, fish oil, Joint Force and GCS!
 
Rahl said:
Did you ever try any of those rehab exercises I showed you? They will really help if you do them EVERY day. Ice that low back every night and keep something like mineral ice on it at all times. You'll smell like an old bastard but you'll feel better. Also, keep your hip flexors stretched and loose. It's amazing how much low back pain comes from those things. Hope you get it worked out bro!
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hey, i resent that smell like an old bastard comment, lol:aargh:
 
Rahl said:
Did you ever try any of those rehab exercises I showed you? They will really help if you do them EVERY day. Ice that low back every night and keep something like mineral ice on it at all times. You'll smell like an old bastard but you'll feel better. Also, keep your hip flexors stretched and loose. It's amazing how much low back pain comes from those things. Hope you get it worked out bro!
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:goodpost: definetely agree with the connection between low back pain and tight hamstringts and hip flexors.

I never tried mineral ice before where do I get this from?

A trick I recently picked up is to fill a 2 liter bottle with water and freeze it and once frozen roll it on your calf and hamstring like you would a foam roller. I recently started doing this.
 
JudoJosh said:
:goodpost: definetely agree with the connection between low back pain and tight hamstringts and hip flexors.

I never tried mineral ice before where do I get this from?

A trick I recently picked up is to fill a 2 liter bottle with water and freeze it and once frozen roll it on your calf and hamstring like you would a foam roller. I recently started doing this.
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my mom used a frozen pop bottle under her foot and rolled it when she hurt her foot. said it helped a lot!!!!!! ntbm skeltal balm really helps me also.
 
thebigt said:
my mom used a frozen pop bottle under her foot and rolled it when she hurt her foot. said it helped a lot!!!!!! ntbm skeltal balm really helps me also.
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I found the Joint Force was helping....but then I stopped, so looks like I will be adding that in again.
 
JudoJosh said:
:goodpost: definetely agree with the connection between low back pain and tight hamstringts and hip flexors.

I never tried mineral ice before where do I get this from?

A trick I recently picked up is to fill a 2 liter bottle with water and freeze it and once frozen roll it on your calf and hamstring like you would a foam roller. I recently started doing this.
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You can mineral ice at any Walgreen's or CVS type of place. Maybe walmart too. Basically heavy menthol stuff. I like it at night and Skeletal Balm during the day. I don't find that skeletal balm is very effective on my low back though. Works great on my shoulders and elbows but the back is different.

JD...try side twist floor stretches also. Put one foot on the floor with your knee up. Hook your other foot in front of it and put your opposite elbow behind that knee. Drop the foot to the floor and use the elbow to deepen the stretch. Breathe into it to go deeper.

My favorite for the low back and hip flexors is a chair stretch. Cross your left foot over your right knee. With your back STRAIGHT lean forward. You'll feel it in your low back and hip flexor. Breathe deep into it and hold it for 60 seconds. Switch sides. I do these while I work. They really help.

Try some Aleve in the short term also.
 
Rahl said:
You can mineral ice at any Walgreen's or CVS type of place. Maybe walmart too. Basically heavy menthol stuff. I like it at night and Skeletal Balm during the day. I don't find that skeletal balm is very effective on my low back though. Works great on my shoulders and elbows but the back is different.

JD...try side twist floor stretches also. Put one foot on the floor with your knee up. Hook your other foot in front of it and put your opposite elbow behind that knee. Drop the foot to the floor and use the elbow to deepen the stretch. Breathe into it to go deeper.
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Trying to picture this one and cant figure it out. Got a link to a pic or you tube video of it?

My favorite for the low back and hip flexors is a chair stretch. Cross your left foot over your right knee. With your back STRAIGHT lean forward. You'll feel it in your low back and hip flexor. Breathe deep into it and hold it for 60 seconds. Switch sides. I do these while I work. They really help.

Try some Aleve in the short term also.
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I love that one too.. my hips are the worst so I constantly try and stretch them. Have you ever rolled with a lacross ball before. Try it out before doing this stretch.

 
JudoJosh said:
Trying to picture this one and cant figure it out. Got a link to a pic or you tube video of it?



I love that one too.. my hips are the worst so I constantly try and stretch them. Have you ever rolled with a lacross ball before. Try it out before doing this stretch.

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That first one is hard to describe...obviously. LOL. This is about as close as I can find to how I do it.
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I have done the ball thing. It's great for the flexors.
 
Thanks guys I'm gonna have to try these ones!

Wow so yesterday when I got to 140lbs dumbbell with my right arm I got 6 reps with good and strict form but lower back was a little aggravated so I didn't want to try it for the left side, but damn just from that 1 max set I can tell a huge muscle soreness (in a good way) difference in my right upper back and biceps lol. Only 1 set difference lol

Hopefully my lower back strengthens up fast cause I really wanna try to get 170lbs for 5-6 reps on the 1 arm DB rows by the end of this stack. I wish I was as strong with db presses :@ lol, workin on it tho aha
 
JudgementDay said:
Thanks guys I'm gonna have to try these ones!

Wow so yesterday when I got to 140lbs dumbbell with my right arm I got 6 reps with good and strict form but lower back was a little aggravated so I didn't want to try it for the left side, but damn just from that 1 max set I can tell a huge muscle soreness (in a good way) difference in my right upper back and biceps lol. Only 1 set difference lol

Hopefully my lower back strengthens up fast cause I really wanna try to get 170lbs for 5-6 reps on the 1 arm DB rows by the end of this stack. I wish I was as strong with db presses :@ lol, workin on it tho aha
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you keep that up, you are going to be right there with T.O.M.mahawk, lol.


btw-that's some good advice about stretching!!!! recovery is much improved with before/after stretching, not to mention avoiding injuries.
 
JudgementDay said:
Thanks guys I'm gonna have to try these ones!

Wow so yesterday when I got to 140lbs dumbbell with my right arm I got 6 reps with good and strict form but lower back was a little aggravated so I didn't want to try it for the left side, but damn just from that 1 max set I can tell a huge muscle soreness (in a good way) difference in my right upper back and biceps lol. Only 1 set difference lol

Hopefully my lower back strengthens up fast cause I really wanna try to get 170lbs for 5-6 reps on the 1 arm DB rows by the end of this stack. I wish I was as strong with db presses :@ lol, workin on it tho aha
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Damn, I wished I had access to Db's that heavy. Good job on the 140's though. Keep it up.
 
Thanks guys!


Back isn't feel near as sore today, I got a leg workout planned that will be light on the back but wanted to get everyones opinion on goodmornings for strengthening the back? Maybe even some stiff legged deadlifts?
 
JudgementDay said:
Thanks guys!


Back isn't feel near as sore today, I got a leg workout planned that will be light on the back but wanted to get everyones opinion on goodmornings for strengthening the back? Maybe even some stiff legged deadlifts?
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I'd go stiff legs over good mornings, that way if you get in a position where your back just doesn't feel right, with straight legs you can just let go of the weight, but with good mornings you're in a more complicated position.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I'd go stiff legs over good mornings, that way if you get in a position where your back just doesn't feel right, with straight legs you can just let go of the weight, but with good mornings you're in a more complicated position.
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Thanks man, I'll try Stiff legs and light weight today.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I'd go stiff legs over good mornings, that way if you get in a position where your back just doesn't feel right, with straight legs you can just let go of the weight, but with good mornings you're in a more complicated position.
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I agree. Good morning could put you in a bad spot if you get a "Twinge".
 
Day 11

Weight- 180lbs

Morning supplements- Dermacrine- 5ml, half scoop of Purple Wraath, 2 caps of Creatine Nitrate, 2 caps of Super Cissus.

Meal 1- Extra lean hambuger with cheese


Meal 2- Fruit Smoothie


Pre-workout- 1 scoop of Mesomorph, 2 caps of Plasmagen Nitrate, 4 caps of Creatine Nitrate, 5g of Taurine, half scoop of Purple Wraath, 40g of Dextrose, 2.5ml of Dermacrine, 1 cap of Super Cissus


Legs/ lower Back rehab Workout
Stretching for about 15min and inbetween sets as well.

Bodyweight squats 10 sets of 20 reps

45lbs stiff legged dead lifts 1 set 12 reps(just felt irritated so switched exercises)

Superman position 10 sec hold, 3sec rest repeated 5 times/ 4 sets

Hyper extension 1 leg kick back.. 4 sets 20 reps

Stretching

Then hit the Sauna for 40min, shower then put some about 8 pumps of Joint Force on the lower back.


Post-workout- half scoop of Purple Wraath, 3g of di-creatine malate, 60g of Dextrose, 1 vitamin, 1 cap of Super cissus


Meal 3- Hamburger pita, 500ml of 2% milk


Meal 4- 3 potatoes(btw I never use butter on anything) and skinless chicken breast
Supps- 5ml of Dermacrine LV


1 packet of G.C.S with MSM and Hyaluronic Acid




Day 11 Thoughts
Well I felt my back getting a bit irritated but it held in for what I did. I'm surprised but my legs feel sore as heck right now lol, I guess it's from not being able to really work them out so felt the burn of the higher reps. I hope with in a few weeks I can do the leg workouts I was doing before. I'll rest it up and start again Monday, I'm gonna change it up Monday, I'll do full body Mon, Wed, Fri and hopefully the lower back strengthens from it...

Noticed effects- Phenibut 500 is pretty awesome, I never used any phenibut supplement before this log, it really mellows me out and puts me in a good mood, also get great sleep. I havn't tried more then 1 cap yet. Also Demracrine I found since bumping it up to 10ml a day vascularity has increased a bit.....and Libido is high!


I'm gonna try this routine for a week and see how my back feels.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2Evug73DoM"]YouTube - Back Pain, avoidance and rehab[/nomedia]


 
Day 12

Weight- 180lbs

Morning supplements- Dermacrine- 5ml, 1 scoop of Purple Wraath, 2 caps of Creatine Nitrate, 2 caps of Super Cissus.

Meal 1- Chicken pita, 2 packs of oatmeal

Pre-workout- 8 caps of Plasmagen Nitrate, 6 caps of Creatine Nitrate, 4g of Taurine, 1 scoop of Purple Wraath, 40g of Dextrose, 2.5ml of Dermacrine, 1 cap of Super Cissus


Triceps and shoulders workout
Close grip bench press- 5 sets 95x10, 135x5, 185x3, 200x5, 135x10

Circuit
Push downs 10, 5, 10
Close grip bench press 135x10, 135x5, 135x10
Shoulder raises circuit 40, 20, 40
Shrugs 20, 20, 20
Neck yes's and no's 120, 60, 60
Repeated 3 times

Sauna 15min, shower, 8 pumps of Joint Force, then raced to the computer to order from Nutraplanet!!!!


Post-workout- half scoop of Purple Wraath, 3g of di-creatine malate, 60g of Dextrose and 500ml of Gatorade, 1 cap of Super cissus


Meal 2- Extra lean Hamburger with cheese

Meal 3- Chicken Pita
Supps- 2.5ml of Dermacrine LV

Meal 4- Peanut butter and Jam sandwich
1 packet of G.C.S with MSM and Hyaluronic Acid


Day 12 Thoughts
Didn't go too hard again today, the lower back is a bit tender so didn't wanna do anything to aggravate it anymore, just kept it short. Monday will be a whole body workout, I will have to go light on squats and I'm going to try that back therapy routine(youtube vid posted) for a week and see how it works. I'm looking forward on how I do on Incline DB Presses, I'm aiming to tie my PR!(But weighing 28lbs lighter)





This was awesome:), The REEM RULES!!!
 
interesting how you are dosing the creatine nitrate........hmmm
 
JudgementDay said:
I'm just experimenting at the moment, I think Monday I will try 1 scoop of Meso with 5 caps of Creatine Nitrate, the pumps should be insane!!!!
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not mad at ya, lol. i always like to play with doses to see what works best for me. i liked 1 1/2 scoops meso so much i just stuck with it!!!!!!
 
Looking good JD. Add 20mins of ice before bed to that lower back this week too. Hope it improves for you.
 
Day 15

Morning Weight- 181lbs

Morning supplements- 2.5ml of Dermacrine, 3ml of AndroHard, 2 caps of Super Cissus, 2 caps of Omega 3'6'9


Meal 1- Extra lean Hamburger with cheese and Fruit smoothie


Meal 2- 2 packs of Oatmeal


Pre-workout- 1 scoop of Mesomorph, 5 caps of Creatine Nitrate, 4g of Taurine, 20g of Dextrose, 2.5ml of Dermacrine, 1 cap of Super Cissus


Chest, shoulders, triceps
Incline DB Press- 5 sets 25'sx15, 40x10, 65'sx5, 85'sx5+2 forced reps, 85'sx4+2 forced reps

Overhead DB press- 3 sets 25'sx15, 40'sx10, 65'sx12

Seated DB curls- 1 set 25x10 (got some pain in my bicep, it's been a bit sore since db rowing 140)

Overhead DB extensions- 4 sets 25x20, 40x20, 65x20, 85x20

Circuit
Cable crossovers- 12, 12, 10, 8 reps
1 arm reverse cable pushdown- 15, 8, 5, 10 reps
Upper chest crossovers- 10, 10, 8, 5 reps
Repeated 4 times


6 pumps of Joint Force, 1 cap of Super Cissus

Sauna 30min, shower, 8 pumps of Joint Force


Post-workout- 3g of di-creatine malate, 40g of Dextrose and 946ml of Gatorade


Meal 3- Multigrain spaghetti with extra lean burger and cheese
Supps- 2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

Iced back for 30min

Meal 4- Chicken Pita
Supps- 2.5ml of Dermacrine LV, 3ml of AndroHard, 2 caps of Super Cissus

Iced back for 20min

Meal 4- Peanut butter and Jam sandwich
Supps- 1 packet of G.C.S with MSM and Hyaluronic Acid, 1 cap of Phenibut 500



Day 15 Thoughts
Well I did better with incline DB press then I thought, I'm hoping to beat a PR next week. I went into my workout wanting to do a full body, but by the end of my incline DB press just from putting the DB's back I could feel my back wanting to give out, ugh very frustrating, also my bicep is still sore so I said screw it I'll do chest, shoulders, tri's. I iced my back a couple times tonight, my back is feeling very shakey and weak, I'm hoping I will be able to try and work it out tomorrow or wednesday depending how it feels, one thing I'm not liking is everytime it starts to bother me I get a weird tingles in the back of my legs:S


Effects

Mesomorph- wow really feels like it was my first night with stims, the energy was just crazy, I really have to make sure I get a leveled scoop, a kinda did a heaping scoop and damn you really don't need more then a level scoop, I may try and see how 3/4th of a scoop goes.

Creatine Nitrate- Took 5 caps with Meso today and holy, I can't believe the pumps were even bigger then 4 caps, I really don't think you need 5 caps tho, I'll go back to 4 caps the next workout.

Dermacrine LV- I have used the topical dermacrine and so far I'm liking the LV more, the last couple days Libido has gone up a lot, a couple zits popped up on the back, def feeling like there is some testosterone boosting going on;)

Androhard- Well this was day 1, only thing I have noticed is an increase in anxiety, just an uneasy feeling, not sure if anyone else has noticed this while using Androhard, so I took a phenibut500 tonight.








 
Looks like you managed a good workout overall anyway. I know what it's like trying to work around that back. Sucks! Keep working on it. I'll be interested in your Dermacrine LV vs. Topical by the end of this.
 
Your stack looks awesome, Dermacarine + AH + Mesomorph + Creatine Nitrate
You should be seeing some nice strength increases if your back can handle it

Also, it looks like the days you take Mesomorph you lay off of the Plasmagen. Is that because Meso has a lot of the same ingredients? I know they both have BA, so the tingles woudl be out of this world
 
bludevil said:
Your stack looks awesome, Dermacarine + AH + Mesomorph + Creatine Nitrate
You should be seeing some nice strength increases if your back can handle it

Also, it looks like the days you take Mesomorph you lay off of the Plasmagen. Is that because Meso has a lot of the same ingredients? I know they both have BA, so the tingles woudl be out of this world
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No it's because Plasmagen Nitrate still has a little bit of Caffeine, 10mg per cap, I guess 8 caps of that and 1 scoop of Meso is only 280mg of caffeine, but for some damn reason Meso gives so much energy I wouldn't wanna take anymore lol

It should be interesting when I add in triazole:D
 
Rahl said:
Looks like you managed a good workout overall anyway. I know what it's like trying to work around that back. Sucks! Keep working on it. I'll be interested in your Dermacrine LV vs. Topical by the end of this.
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Ya the LV seems to be doing good, I got good gains from the topical tho, so I'll see how the end result turns out.

Ya did good for workin around the back, it's a bit sore still today, but I'm gonna try and work it out tomorrow.
 
How did I end up being so late to the party!? Late sub!
 
JudgementDay said:
No it's because Plasmagen Nitrate still has a little bit of Caffeine, 10mg per cap, I guess 8 caps of that and 1 scoop of Meso is only 280mg of caffeine, but for some damn reason Meso gives so much energy I wouldn't wanna take anymore lol

It should be interesting when I add in triazole:D
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Indeed it will be bruther! ;)
How you been btw? Christmas / New Years went well? :)

//CC
 
ConcreteConny said:
Indeed it will be bruther! ;)
How you been btw? Christmas / New Years went well? :)

//CC
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O I hope my nutra order is in this week, I'll add it in for Monday if it is:D


I've been alright, my back has been a piss off and my foot. But I hope I can strengthen the back up, I'm gonna try back extensions and hyper extensions tomorrow. But overall life is good, I can't complain:) I worked Christmas and New Years so didn't really get to do what I wanted lol


How have you been?
 
JudgementDay said:
O I hope my nutra order is in this week, I'll add it in for Monday if it is:D


I've been alright, my back has been a piss off and my foot. But I hope I can strengthen the back up, I'm gonna try back extensions and hyper extensions tomorrow. But overall life is good, I can't complain:) I worked Christmas and New Years so didn't really get to do what I wanted lol


How have you been?
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Been crazy busy visiting family and stuff, but I've managed to get some training done :) Anxiously awaiting my cycle start in February. Pre load phase in 2 weeks :head:

//CC
 
Day 17

Weight- 182lbs

Morning supplements- 5ml of Dermacrine, 4ml of AndroHard, 1 caps of Super Cissus, 2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

Meal 1- Extra lean Hamburger with cheese and Fruit smoothie

Meal 2- 2 packs of Oatmeal


Pre-workout- 3/4th a scoop of Mesomorph, 5 caps of Creatine Nitrate, 4g of Taurine, 20g of Dextrose, 2.5ml of DermacrineLV, 1ml of Androhard, 1 cap of Super Cissus, 50mg of zinc, 1 packet of G.C.S with MSM and Hyaluronic Acid


Back
Stretch 10min

Pulldowns- 5 sets 75x15, 105x10, 135x5, 150x5, 180x5
Back extensions- 5 sets of 12 reps

Hyper extensions- 2 sets of 10 reps
Seated db curl(left arm only)- 3 sets 25x10, 45x10, 45x10

DB preacher curl(left arm only)- 6 sets, 35x12,10,8,6,4,4(really slow reps)
Stetch


Post-workout- 3g of di-creatine malate, 2 caps of Creatine Nitrate, 60g of Dextrose, 1 cap of Super Cissus


Meal 3- Multigrain spaghetti with extra lean burger and cheese
Supps- 2 caps of Omega 3'6'9,


1ml of Androhard and 2.5ml of DermacrineLV

20min in the sauna


Meal 4- Chicken Pita


Day 17 Thoughts
ugh, fail workout again. My bicep felt a little sore monday so I only did a set of curls and it felt good to go today and on the 5th set of pulldowns it felt sore again, so that wrecked my back workout. Well did some back extensions, thankfully my lower back didn't pull, I'm gonna go for 5 sets of 20 reps next back workout. I'm gonna do Legs Friday, work them the best I can without hurting my lower back and I hope Monday I can start hard and get better workouts in, I'm gonna go for the 90's on incline db press Monday, so fingers crossed I beat a PR.


Effects
Creatine Nitrate- Didn't get a good workout in, but with the sets of preacher curls on my left arm I had a really good pump.

Androhard- I feel like I'm getting a bit of high blood pressure when I take my second serving of AH at night, I've been getting headaches the last 2 nights abit after the 2nd dose, so I split the doses up today. I'm sure it will be better once I get Cycle Support in, my Nutraplanet order should be here soon.

A little variety of music :biggthumpup:




 
Well today hasn't started off good, having to put up with a psycho landlord and my Godfather is looking like he may pass anyday now from cancer. My father is taking it really hard because they are best friends.

But I just got my nutra order today lol
 
My APS dual order is on the truck "out for delivery" ... yea !! Nice present when I get home from work :)
 
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