This thread is dedicated to the great Mr Olympia Jay Cutler
lol! great story! stories like this one are very welcomeI saw him at a guest posing appearance years ago. My buddy's mom was just staring at the size of his arms. He said "you can touch it, it won't hurt you". I about fell over.
As a Bears fan I came in here looking for this lol. Was expecting the smoking Jay meme
he took steroids (not natty)One of the best natural athletes ever
Nah bro he just lifts hard and took a multihe took steroids (not natty)
you are so naive, all pro bodybuilders take steroids. wake up and smell the coffee.Nah bro he just lifts hard and took a multi
So do 99% of the self-proclaimed “natural bodybuilders” who are bigger than pros in the past who used steroids.you are so naive, all pro bodybuilders take steroids. wake up and smell the coffee.
no, maybe a few cheat, but many do tell the truth and are truly natural, just very genetically gifted (Mike O'hearn comes to mind)So do 99% of the self-proclaimed “natural bodybuilders” who are bigger than pros in the past who used steroids.
Strong delusionno, maybe a few cheat, but many do tell the truth and are truly natural, just very genetically gifted (Mike O'hearn comes to mind)
this is a silly assumptionStrong delusion
They are all on something at one point in there career. If you make money off your body you are not natty
There’s a photo of rich piana and mike ohearn side by side and mike ohearn dwarfs rich piana. Rich piana admittedly used a crap load of gear. Come on man. Seriously it’s in his contract to say he’s natural. All of these natural pro bodybuilders have contracts written by companies that endorse them stating that the bodybuilder can NOT EVER admit to using any type of drug or steroid. If they breach the contract they lose endorsements and their livelihood. They get paid to claim natural when they are notno, maybe a few cheat, but many do tell the truth and are truly natural, just very genetically gifted (Mike O'hearn comes to mind)
i'm sorry, but i'm not convinced that guy is natty...idk, his abs look ultra ripped, it's very suspect, not convinced at all of him being nattyView attachment 164506
Prob one of the few actual natty bodybuilders out there. And look at his arms
Sucks to be natural
O'hearn dwarfed Piana in height since O'hearn is 6'3'' and Piana was 5'11'' i thinkThere’s a photo of rich piana and mike ohearn side by side and mike ohearn dwarfs rich piana. Rich piana admittedly used a crap load of gear. Come on man. Seriously it’s in his contract to say he’s natural. All of these natural pro bodybuilders have contracts written by companies that endorse them stating that the bodybuilder can NOT EVER admit to using any type of drug or steroid. If they breach the contract they lose endorsements and their livelihood. They get paid to claim natural when they are not
I fee like I'm missing something here. You don't think that natural bodybuilder is natural because he has ripped abs, but you think this guy is natural?i'm sorry, but i'm not convinced that guy is natty...idk, his abs look ultra ripped, it's very suspect, not convinced at all of him being natty
This one?There’s a photo of rich piana and mike ohearn side by side and mike ohearn dwarfs rich piana. Rich piana admittedly used a crap load of gear. Come on man. Seriously it’s in his contract to say he’s natural. All of these natural pro bodybuilders have contracts written by companies that endorse them stating that the bodybuilder can NOT EVER admit to using any type of drug or steroid. If they breach the contract they lose endorsements and their livelihood. They get paid to claim natural when they are not
it's different, Mike started training at 8 yrs old and has elite genetics and elite work ethicI fee like I'm missing something here. You don't think that natural bodybuilder is natural because he has ripped abs, but you think this guy is natural?
That doesn't make any sense my friend.
Mike is what happens when people have integrity and rely on hard work and dedication, rather than drugsThis one?
How on earth can someone say that they doubt the guy BloodManor posted is natural, but completely buy that someone the size of Ohearn, who is bigger AND leaner than the other guy, is natural.
How do you know the other guy didn't?it's different, Mike started training at 8 yrs old and has elite genetics and elite work ethic
Come one man. He's significantly bigger AND leaner than the greatest bodybuilders in the world who competed at at time when they may or may not have used steroids (and they probably did at some time).Mike is what happens when people have integrity and rely on hard work and dedication, rather than drugs
I think you mistake questions and reasonable doubts as "hating" and "hostility." If you're just going to make a ton of sensational claims (both regarding your claimed stats naturally and your claims regarding Ohearn being natural while doubting that the other guy who is much smaller and less lean isn't), it's only logical that people will express some level of skepticism. It's not "hating" or "hostility." It's debate, it's conversation. That's what the forum is for. I don't think anyone is interested in people just making extremely bold claims and then calling anyone who questions them "haters" or "hostile" and using that as an excuse or shield to not provide reasonable answers.i'm sorry but if i sense even a hint of hostility then i won't get involved in any silly argument. at my age, i avoid negativity.
How old are you?i'm sorry but if i sense even a hint of hostility then i won't get involved in any silly argument. at my age, i avoid negativity.
I could care less if Ohearn is natural or not, but I'm not convinced he could be declared bigger than Piana. Taller sure. More ripped in this pic, yep.This one?
How on earth can someone say that they doubt the guy BloodManor posted is natural, but completely buy that someone the size of Ohearn, who is bigger AND leaner than the other guy, is natural.
I wasn’t the one who said he’s bigger than Piana, just that he’s clearly not natural. I meant Ohearn is orders of magnitude bigger than the other natural bodybuilder that he claimed wasn’t natural earlier in the thread. That’s probably the confusion. Hasn’t Rich been accused of using oil/implants/something? Can we even really compare size to anyone if that’s the case. Don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t competing, so he could do what he wants.I could care less if Ohearn is natural or not, but I'm not convinced he could be declared bigger than Piana. Taller sure. More ripped in this pic, yep.
Btw, there are plenty of natty competitors that think because they aren't injecting test, means they can maintain their drug free status. But take plenty of other OTC drugs.
i'm 41How old are you?
I believe its pmma.I wasn’t the one who said he’s bigger than Piana, just that he’s clearly not natural. I meant Ohearn is orders of magnitude bigger than the other natural bodybuilder that he claimed wasn’t natural earlier in the thread. That’s probably the confusion. Hasn’t Rich been accused of using oil/implants/something? Can we even really compare size to anyone if that’s the case. Don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t competing, so he could do what he wants.
Ok. Yeah, triceps look strange in the second pic from the top. Dude was big without resorting to that, but I guess it was his image and persona.He looked pretty passable once, then he started screwing with his arms. Then he lost a tonne of weight and site enhanced his delts and upper chest with pmma also. View attachment 164557View attachment 164559View attachment 164560
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