Jay Cutler tribute thread (post gifs, gifs, discussion)

I saw him at a guest posing appearance years ago. My buddy's mom was just staring at the size of his arms. He said "you can touch it, it won't hurt you". I about fell over.
 
ironhands said:
no, maybe a few cheat, but many do tell the truth and are truly natural, just very genetically gifted (Mike O'hearn comes to mind)
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Strong delusion

They are all on something at one point in there career. If you make money off your body you are not natty
 
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Prob one of the few actual natty bodybuilders out there. And look at his arms
Sucks to be natural
 
ironhands said:
no, maybe a few cheat, but many do tell the truth and are truly natural, just very genetically gifted (Mike O'hearn comes to mind)
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There’s a photo of rich piana and mike ohearn side by side and mike ohearn dwarfs rich piana. Rich piana admittedly used a crap load of gear. Come on man. Seriously it’s in his contract to say he’s natural. All of these natural pro bodybuilders have contracts written by companies that endorse them stating that the bodybuilder can NOT EVER admit to using any type of drug or steroid. If they breach the contract they lose endorsements and their livelihood. They get paid to claim natural when they are not
 
BloodManor said:
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Prob one of the few actual natty bodybuilders out there. And look at his arms
Sucks to be natural
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i'm sorry, but i'm not convinced that guy is natty...idk, his abs look ultra ripped, it's very suspect, not convinced at all of him being natty
 
BlockBuilder said:
There’s a photo of rich piana and mike ohearn side by side and mike ohearn dwarfs rich piana. Rich piana admittedly used a crap load of gear. Come on man. Seriously it’s in his contract to say he’s natural. All of these natural pro bodybuilders have contracts written by companies that endorse them stating that the bodybuilder can NOT EVER admit to using any type of drug or steroid. If they breach the contract they lose endorsements and their livelihood. They get paid to claim natural when they are not
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O'hearn dwarfed Piana in height since O'hearn is 6'3'' and Piana was 5'11'' i think
 
ironhands said:
i'm sorry, but i'm not convinced that guy is natty...idk, his abs look ultra ripped, it's very suspect, not convinced at all of him being natty
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I fee like I'm missing something here. You don't think that natural bodybuilder is natural because he has ripped abs, but you think this guy is natural?
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That doesn't make any sense my friend.
 
BlockBuilder said:
There’s a photo of rich piana and mike ohearn side by side and mike ohearn dwarfs rich piana. Rich piana admittedly used a crap load of gear. Come on man. Seriously it’s in his contract to say he’s natural. All of these natural pro bodybuilders have contracts written by companies that endorse them stating that the bodybuilder can NOT EVER admit to using any type of drug or steroid. If they breach the contract they lose endorsements and their livelihood. They get paid to claim natural when they are not
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This one?
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How on earth can someone say that they doubt the guy BloodManor posted is natural, but completely buy that someone the size of Ohearn, who is bigger AND leaner than the other guy, is natural.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I fee like I'm missing something here. You don't think that natural bodybuilder is natural because he has ripped abs, but you think this guy is natural?
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That doesn't make any sense my friend.
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it's different, Mike started training at 8 yrs old and has elite genetics and elite work ethic
 
muscleupcrohn said:
This one?
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How on earth can someone say that they doubt the guy BloodManor posted is natural, but completely buy that someone the size of Ohearn, who is bigger AND leaner than the other guy, is natural.
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Mike is what happens when people have integrity and rely on hard work and dedication, rather than drugs
 
ironhands said:
it's different, Mike started training at 8 yrs old and has elite genetics and elite work ethic
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How do you know the other guy didn't?
ironhands said:
Mike is what happens when people have integrity and rely on hard work and dedication, rather than drugs
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Come one man. He's significantly bigger AND leaner than the greatest bodybuilders in the world who competed at at time when they may or may not have used steroids (and they probably did at some time).

Reg Park (Arnold's idol):
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Ohearn is bigger and leaner than both of them, and it's likely that neither of them were completely natural their entire lives. So you're saying that Ohearn is naturally literally leaps and bounds ahead of the best bodybuilders of their time who likely used steroids? That simply defies logic, and even common sense really.
 
i'm sorry but if i sense even a hint of hostility then i won't get involved in any silly argument. at my age, i avoid negativity.
 
ironhands said:
i'm sorry but if i sense even a hint of hostility then i won't get involved in any silly argument. at my age, i avoid negativity.
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I think you mistake questions and reasonable doubts as "hating" and "hostility." If you're just going to make a ton of sensational claims (both regarding your claimed stats naturally and your claims regarding Ohearn being natural while doubting that the other guy who is much smaller and less lean isn't), it's only logical that people will express some level of skepticism. It's not "hating" or "hostility." It's debate, it's conversation. That's what the forum is for. I don't think anyone is interested in people just making extremely bold claims and then calling anyone who questions them "haters" or "hostile" and using that as an excuse or shield to not provide reasonable answers.

Again, I don't think there's any "hate" or "hostility" here, just people who have some very reasonable questions and skepticism.
 
So what exactly does it prove comparing a guy in contest shape to a guy that's not? Who cares? This thread is stupid.
 
He probably has some reason why he doesn't have to tell us his age. All we need to know is he is a better age than anyone else.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
This one?
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How on earth can someone say that they doubt the guy BloodManor posted is natural, but completely buy that someone the size of Ohearn, who is bigger AND leaner than the other guy, is natural.
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I could care less if Ohearn is natural or not, but I'm not convinced he could be declared bigger than Piana. Taller sure. More ripped in this pic, yep.

Btw, there are plenty of natty competitors that think because they aren't injecting test, means they can maintain their drug free status. But take plenty of other OTC drugs.
 
youngandfree said:
I could care less if Ohearn is natural or not, but I'm not convinced he could be declared bigger than Piana. Taller sure. More ripped in this pic, yep.

Btw, there are plenty of natty competitors that think because they aren't injecting test, means they can maintain their drug free status. But take plenty of other OTC drugs.
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I wasn’t the one who said he’s bigger than Piana, just that he’s clearly not natural. I meant Ohearn is orders of magnitude bigger than the other natural bodybuilder that he claimed wasn’t natural earlier in the thread. That’s probably the confusion. Hasn’t Rich been accused of using oil/implants/something? Can we even really compare size to anyone if that’s the case. Don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t competing, so he could do what he wants.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I wasn’t the one who said he’s bigger than Piana, just that he’s clearly not natural. I meant Ohearn is orders of magnitude bigger than the other natural bodybuilder that he claimed wasn’t natural earlier in the thread. That’s probably the confusion. Hasn’t Rich been accused of using oil/implants/something? Can we even really compare size to anyone if that’s the case. Don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t competing, so he could do what he wants.
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I believe its pmma.
 
He looked pretty passable once, then he started screwing with his arms. Then he lost a tonne of weight and site enhanced his delts and upper chest with pmma also. Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
 
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He looked pretty passable once, then he started screwing with his arms. Then he lost a tonne of weight and site enhanced his delts and upper chest with pmma also. Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
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Ok. Yeah, triceps look strange in the second pic from the top. Dude was big without resorting to that, but I guess it was his image and persona.
 
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