Jacked VS. JP8

Jacked VS. JP8

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USPLabs said:
The advertising states it's better because it comes with significant strength gains, LBM gains, and endurance(which steroids kill) WITHOUT side effects that come from un tested designer steroids and hormones...

Some people want a steroid alternative and PRIME is that product...

We have people crushing personal records and I mean destroying them on a weekly basis.

People love to hate when they cannot reap the rewards of a breakthrough product.
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What you should do is review the feedback at nutaplanet.com and decide why so many products from USP like Prime and this and that get "didnt do sht" reviews.

Also this is about Jacked. You can stop with the sells pitches. I dont care either way about nothing you guys make, the only product you have released that has anything to do with anything I make is Jacked, and its not the best on the planet.

BTW, just checked my email no 20k, offer for those extracts, so maybe you should be working on that. I need some "party money" for the Arnold.
 
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This thread is crackin' me up. It's like the damn Energizer bunny, it keeps going and going and going...... Thank God I'm not on DTH right now, or I'd be pretty ragin'.
 
USPLabs said:
You are just being foolish now.

Since you posted the fictitious post and repeated it as fact many times until corrected. Do really think that you are credible..well you may think so but those outside looking will view it differently.

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Here is my proof I'm credible when I say Jacked fails to even closely compare to JP8. And yes, I've obviously tried them both. Lets see who else can post the same...Invalid Link Removed
 
Chuck Diesel said:
What you should do is review the feedback at nutaplanet.com and decide why so many products from USP like Prime and this and that get "didnt do sht" reviews.

Also this is about Jacked. You can stop with the sells pitches. I dont care either way about nothing you guys make, the only product you have released that has anything to do with anything I make is Jacked, and its not the best on the planet.

BTW, just checked my email no 20k, offer for those extracts, so maybe you should be working on that. I need some "party money" for the Arnold.
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20k offer is on the table right here in public for the supplement world to view it.

I would not want you to make any excuses and claim it was not sent after you search comes up void.

No excuses...
 
Joeba, before u make another ignorant comment like ( if they tried both and liked Jacked better, they are full of ****) u should stop making your lack of objectivity so obovious. I got alot more out of Jacked, so what. Try thinking before speaking.....
 
Personally I think arguing over which one is better has just gotten out of hand. We are not talking about "ph" or "steroid-like" results here, but Pre-workout supplements, in which the results are not based off lbs gained and brute strength increases after 4 weeks (or w/e timeframe) but the actual energy, pump, and recovery in the gym,..... which is what "pre-workout" supplements are made to do. They affect everyone differently, esp in terms of what your own diet and dosing is... and everyone will have their "own" opinion on how they feel. Its like a continuing battle that will never be won, as these are not ph's and will not give everyone who takes them some kind of massive, "significant", measurable results in terms of weight or mass .

I cant tell you how many pre w/o supps have worked for everyone else but not for me or vica-versa. Ex: NO-explode worked wonders for many, but didn't do crap for me. People said Armageddon didn't do crap for them, yet I felt great off of it. See my point. This is just one of those grey area supps, they may work for you, may not. Hopefully this thread will not reach 100 pages before people realize they need to just stop being fan boys or w/e and just buy both and see with one works wonders FOR THEM. Hell someone who ate a potato before a workout could have the best w/o of their life, (i know exaggerated lol) according to how they "feel" at the time; alot of things are factored in, in terms of what we call "energy."

I love JP8, best pre w/o supp ive used,............. so far,... keyword: so far. Will i by jacked in the future, probably. But im impressed with what i have now,so jacked will just have to wait til the next monthly allowance. So,... call it a truce,.... and everyone go see which one works best FOR YOU. nuff said'.
 
Ive tried both, the taste of jp8 is terrible and I cant take the grape flavor it makes me naseuous, but even being naseuous I was able to lift more on jp8 then any other product Ive taken and i only need to take 1 scoop, but I have lemonade as well and it works. Nothin compares to jp8 in overall pre workout game in my opinion. Ive tried jack with one scoop and didnt get much and two scoops it was alright. I will take 3 scoops tommarow and tell you how it goes, but I was not blown away at all.
 
theBIGcactus said:
Ive tried both, the taste of jp8 is terrible and I cant take the grape flavor it makes me naseuous, but even being naseuous I was able to lift more on jp8 then any other product Ive taken and i only need to take 1 scoop, but I have lemonade as well and it works. Nothin compares to jp8 in overall pre workout game in my opinion. Ive tried jack with one scoop and didnt get much and two scoops it was alright. I will take 3 scoops tommarow and tell you how it goes, but I was not blown away at all.
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how did your 3 scoops of Jacked work for you? Also sorry to hear about the grape making you nauseous. I would mix it with something fruit punch'ie.
 
theBIGcactus said:
Ive tried both, the taste of jp8 is terrible and I cant take the grape flavor it makes me naseuous, but even being naseuous I was able to lift more on jp8 then any other product Ive taken and i only need to take 1 scoop, but I have lemonade as well and it works. Nothin compares to jp8 in overall pre workout game in my opinion. Ive tried jack with one scoop and didnt get much and two scoops it was alright. I will take 3 scoops tommarow and tell you how it goes, but I was not blown away at all.
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I've only tried grape. Does the lemonade go down better for you?
 
joebo said:
Here is my proof I'm credible when I say Jacked fails to even closely compare to JP8. And yes, I've obviously tried them both. Lets see who else can post the same...Invalid Link Removed
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Damn, u got that old shotgun with the free DVD, whats on that DVD, Heroes season 1?
 
redemption79 said:
I've only tried grape. Does the lemonade go down better for you?
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Yea I like the lemonade better, they both dont taste great but I dont want a flavored drink I want something that works, but yea it goes down better for me, I just cant handle grape flavored stuff even purple wraath the smell of it makes me want to puke lol
 
joebo said:
Here is my proof I'm credible when I say Jacked fails to even closely compare to JP8. And yes, I've obviously tried them both. Lets see who else can post the same...Invalid Link Removed
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I can joebo. This is just a sampling of my arsenal. I have 3 tubs of primal n20 as well and a few other pre/wo's.

Damn. I really need to get some shotgun and see if its any good.

BTW, My GF's house has another tub of jacked.

I got two tubs of grape JP8 in transit as I type.

I voted for both. Since I believe they both have a place in sports supplementation.

You know what amplifies Jacked? Nos Ether. WOW! I felt like i was on coke and/or crank.:dance: 10+ years sober.
 

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Wow.

joebo said:
My Dad can beat up your Dad, and he uses JP8!
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I think everybody in this thread needs to take a step back and stop antagonizing each other like the above. Joebo, it was a harmless joke as well, so please take it that way.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
BTW, just checked my email no 20k, offer for those extracts, so maybe you should be working on that. I need some "party money" for the Arnold.
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Still no email.....I would like to get the ball rolling on this ASAP, so my 20k check from USP Labs will clear (with the 10 day hold they put) before the Arnold.
 
Jacked is an excellent pre-workout product but I suffer HARD from crashes with 2 or 3 scoops so I might move it to one. May give JP8 a go in the future.
 
i have responded very good to all the diesel products i have tried, dthc and r4w original formula being my favorites. usplabs has been hit or miss for me, i really like powerful, supercissus is good but the others i have tried not so good. in fairness i do not respond AT ALL to geranium and felt very little effect from jacked, even at 3 scoops. jp8 is no contest the best for me in every way. not even close. i think what most guys are responding to with jacked is just the geranium, because by not responding to the geranium i don't get much repsonse at all from the jacked, try buying some bulk geranium and see if i am right. jp8-no contest,imo.
 
Chuck, Jacob. It is a bit upsetting to see both of you at each others throats. Both of you are stand up guys that make fantastic supplements. Neither of you should be attacking one another. The industry has a lot to thank BOTH of you for. Both of you care about bringing quality products that work to the market, and I understand your competitive natures and standing behind ones product. As you can see from these pics, I'm an avid fan of both your companies. Both Jacked and Jp8 play a part in my supplement arsenal. I welcome the differences in both of your PWO formulas. The days I want great focus and energy without crazy pump, or keeping me amped up for too long when I work out late at nite, I like to use jacked. (I wish you would keep the formula as is Jacob. I liked the fact it does not have a ton of N.O. producing ingredients). The days When I'm savoring that pumped feeling and I want that insane energy and focus (like leg day), I like the JP8. Bottom line is you have both done a great job with your individual product lines. Both of you have too much integrity to bash on each other especially when you both have great products. Neither of you can deny that you each have a following because for most people, both products work. Please make nice with each other :D.
 

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I will have to agree with you verner, I hope Jacob doesn't change Jacked as well. I don't like that big pump feeling especially since I do a lot of kickboxing and grappling, I find the N.O. producing ingredients make my muscles dead and the Jacked NOW keeps me going, so I hope if you do change Jacked, I hope you guys could sell both versions.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Still no email.....I would like to get the ball rolling on this ASAP, so my 20k check from USP Labs will clear (with the 10 day hold they put) before the Arnold.
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:pat:I think you have reading comprehension problems.:frustrate
 
I have never tried JP8 so I am not gonna compare the to but here is how I feel about Jacked.

It was definitely different then most of the other NO products I have tried, it was a steady clean energy throughout my entire work-out. It did not give me the same pump as other products just a lot of energy and made me have this urgency that I can't really describe. The taste was actually pretty good which surprised me and I don't think I've ever found a pre-workout supplement that I could say I liked the taste of.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Wow.



I think everybody in this thread needs to take a step back and stop antagonizing each other like the above. Joebo, it was a harmless joke as well, so please take it that way.
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Its all good. Never a problem with you. If nothing else this thread will make people go out and buy JP8...
 
verner said:
Chuck, Jacob. It is a bit upsetting to see both of you at each others throats.
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Im not actually at his throat, or bad mouthing the USP line, I don't like the advertising, but who does.

At this point I'm just waiting for my signed letter in my email saying if I find those 2 extracts he mentioned that he thinks is sooo rare hes going to give me 20k.

USPLabs said:
There a hundreds of compounds Schisandra berry.

If you can source a pure schizandrol A (not schizindrin a b or c) and an 80% Theophylline from Guurana, I will give you $20,000. Since it's not rocket science, you should be able to produce these great compounds fairly quickly. The offer is off the table end or March....that is a whole lot of time!

I've been working on these compounds for a long long time.

You're acting like a pretender because now you are just making things up as you write.
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USPLabs said:
20k offer is on the table right here in public for the supplement world to view it.

I would not want you to make any excuses and claim it was not sent after you search comes up void.

No excuses...
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come on. You know good and well your going to pull some "this is a fictitious person and cannot hold a real person accountable for their verbal commitments...blablabla"
 
Ok, imma re-do all this.............


Who has used Grape JP8 and Jacked, and if you have, whats your feedback on comp. the 2 products?
 
Chuck Diesel said:
At this point I'm just waiting for my signed letter in my email saying if I find those 2 extracts he mentioned that he thinks is sooo rare hes going to give me 20k.
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dude, if it's that easy for you to find these extracts, go find em and lets just see where it goes, what do you have to lose?
 
b unit said:
dude, if it's that easy for you to find these extracts, go find em and lets just see where it goes, what do you have to lose?
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I think Chuck summed it up pretty well here....
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come on. You know good and well your going to pull some "this is a fictitious person and cannot hold a real person accountable for their verbal commitments...blablabla"
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He is obviously avoiding sending a signed e-mail, because he know he can say whatever he wants on this board and it won't matter. A signed document is a little different..... so that warrants the question of "can an e-mail be considered a legal document?". If not, well then I think chuck will very well get stiffed if he does come up with this compound.
 
Esox Express said:
I think Chuck summed it up pretty well here....
He is obviously avoiding sending a signed e-mail, because he know he can say whatever he wants on this board and it won't matter. A signed document is a little different..... so that warrants the question of "can an e-mail be considered a legal document?". If not, well then I think chuck will very well get stiffed if he does come up with this compound.
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i don't see that what someone says on the board doesn't matter? because it does IMHO, companies are being made or broken these days by what's said on the internet, people's credibilities are made or broken on the internet.

shit, there are reps & individuals being sued by muscletech at the moment for saying negative stuff about their products on bb'ing boards so what's said on the boards matter$, if it doesn't, tell them that!

one question i do have and that is - how will Chuck D prove that the extracts he's sourced are the same as the one's in jacked?
 
b unit said:
i don't see that what someone says on the board doesn't matter? because it does IMHO, companies are being made or broken these days by what's said on the internet, people's credibilities are made or broken on the internet.

shit, there are reps & individuals being sued by muscletech at the moment for saying negative stuff about their products on bb'ing boards so what's said on the boards matter$, if it doesn't, tell them that!

one question i do have and that is - how will Chuck D prove that the extracts he's sourced are the same as the one's in jacked?
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questions abound....... if this actually pans out it would make for some good quality uber-mage-drama.

I know what you mean..... If Chuck did find this extract and USP doesn't follow through with the offer, that knocks down their credibility.... but I was curious if that sort of agreement could be considered a legal document in something like a court case.
 
For a contract to be binding, both parties have to benifit. USP would have to be benifiting from Chuck getting these extractions. In this case, they wouldn't. They would only benifit if he doesn't come up with something, which means this is a bet, not a binding contractual agreement. So the legality of signed or not signed documents doesn't really mean sh*t either way.
This is a bet between men, and it's to their discretion whether or not it's valid., or if somebody's just talking out their a**.

IMHO there are a TON of worthless supplements out there. I've tried my share. These happen to be two supplements that actualy mirror the claims made by each company. I'm not sure why anyone is spending time shoveling sh*t on either one.

Just my 2 cents.
 
as for suing, you can sue for any idiot reason if you have filing fees-winning is a whole lot tougher. you can sue to convince people you are right, even if you know you have no chance of winning. to me jp8 is by far the better supplement, imo buying bulk geranium will give you 95% of the 'great' feeling from jacked.
 
Esox Express said:
He is obviously avoiding sending a signed e-mail, because he know he can say whatever he wants on this board and it won't matter. A signed document is a little different..... so that warrants the question of "can an e-mail be considered a legal document?". If not, well then I think chuck will very well get stiffed if he does come up with this compound.
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What won't matter? Lying and looking like a cheat to my consumers and friends on a forum that allowed USPlabs to grow...please.

Chuck cannot source these extracts bottom line. He is not getting a letter. Nor would an emailed letter that is not notarized or witnessed by a third party mean anything.

We have thousands of thousand of eye witnesses what more does he want. I just think he is stalling. Maybe we should send a letter signed in blood.

I Jacob Geissler AKA USPlabs will pay Chuck Diesel(which is not his name so would I make a letter out to chuck Diesel..ahahha) 20k if he can source and quantify through a 3rd party lab that he indeed has the sourced the correct extracts.

I will even pay for the THIRD party test.

Trust me Chuck is no PA nor has the connections in the industry. His line uses the basic herbs found in China no innovation at all.
 
USPLabs said:
What won't matter? Lying and looking like a cheat to my consumers and friends on a forum that allowed USPlabs to grow...please.

Chuck cannot source these extracts bottom line. He is not getting a letter. Nor would an emailed letter that is not notarized or witnessed by a third party mean anything.

We have thousands of thousand of eye witnesses what more does he want. I just think he is stalling. Maybe we should send a letter signed in blood.

I Jacob Geissler AKA USPlabs will pay Chuck Diesel(which is not his name so would I make a letter out to chuck Diesel..ahahha) 20k if he can source and quantify through a 3rd party lab that he indeed has the sourced the correct extracts.

I will even pay for the THIRD party test.

Trust me Chuck is no PA nor has the connections in the industry. His line uses the basic herbs found in China no innovation at all.
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kind of sad then when chuck's basic herbs found in china with no innovation at all, out perform your products on a consistent basis, imo.
 
USPLabs said:
What won't matter? Lying and looking like a cheat to my consumers and friends on a forum that allowed USPlabs to grow...please.

Chuck cannot source these extracts bottom line. He is not getting a letter. Nor would an emailed letter that is not notarized or witnessed by a third party mean anything.

We have thousands of thousand of eye witnesses what more does he want. I just think he is stalling. Maybe we should send a letter signed in blood.

I Jacob Geissler AKA USPlabs will pay Chuck Diesel(which is not his name so would I make a letter out to chuck Diesel..ahahha) 20k if he can source and quantify through a 3rd party lab that he indeed has the sourced the correct extracts.

I will even pay for the THIRD party test.

Trust me Chuck is no PA nor has the connections in the industry. His line uses the basic herbs found in China no innovation at all.
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hahaha, Put Charles Curry of GET DIESEL NUTRITION where Chuck DIESEL is and email that 2 me, getdiesel @verizon.net, I will have your source to you 5 days later.
 
redemption79 said:
For a contract to be binding, both parties have to benifit. USP would have to be benifiting from Chuck getting these extractions. In this case, they wouldn't. They would only benifit if he doesn't come up with something, which means this is a bet, not a binding contractual agreement.
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that's not true, a contract is binding if both parties agree on the terms. Period. Both parties don't have to benefit.

Its a bet sure, call it what u want.
 
Aggravated said:
You guys are ridiculous...
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This may be ridiculous and I agree, but I see USP backing out of a challenge he put up in order to make himself look superior and now is being called out on it. He could just send the email to chuck as requested if he's so certain chuck can't source the raws and then this thread would easily end is Jacob's favor..
 
I Jacob Geissler AKA USPlabs will pay Chuck Diesel(which is not his name so would I make a letter out to chuck Diesel..ahahha) 20k if he can source and quantify through a 3rd party lab that he indeed has the sourced the correct extracts.

I will even pay for the THIRD party test.
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This looks good enough to me.
 
USPLabs said:
I Jacob Geissler AKA USPlabs will pay Chuck Diesel(which is not his name so would I make a letter out to chuck Diesel..ahahha) 20k if he can.....
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O sh!t!!!! Chuck diesel's name aint chuck diesel!!!! I will never buy a supp from getdiesel ever again!!!!lol


I always wanted to try jp8 but could not make up my mind If I whated to try jp8 or white flood first but then all of the sudden I got an email from Jacob about jacked so I went with that. 3 for like 45 buck or so,that was a good offer. And I think it is the best NO product I have tryed so far. I have not tryed to many but a few like shotgun,shock therapy'morph(on of my fav. Well at lest the one sample I had was, but like many NO products I have used the first dose is allways the best)animal pump,xplode and maybe one or 2 I forgot about. But out of them jacked is the best. I still want to try white flood and jp8 so later when my jacked runs out I will try one of them.

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joebo said:
This may be ridiculous and I agree, but I see USP backing out of a challenge he put up in order to make himself look superior and now is being called out on it. He could just send the email to chuck as requested if he's so certain chuck can't source the raws and then this thread would easily end is Jacob's favor..
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I'm putting up 20k to Chuck's hmmmm nothing, and he wants to make the rules...ahhaha

You also have a reading comprehension problem. I've said it and will repeat it once more, he is not getting an e-mail and making the deal public on the forums is as good as it's going to get. Take it or leave it but at the end, he has everything to gain and I have everything to lose.

He is making excuses and it's painfully obvious.

So Chuck can either take the one sided deal where I do not win a penny or keep making excuses for what he claims is just a jump, skip, and a hop away.

I will even pay for the THIRD party testing.....

Should I also pay for the international shipping and a shoe shine. Maybe he deserves a massage with a happy ending since he is putting it all on the line...Please.
 
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