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It's TRENbelievable! 1ifeblood's tren cycle

I've been looking at running a similar cycle as the one I'm currently doing...low test, moderate tren over 8 weeks and 600mg EQ for 16 weeks. With dbols to kick
 
1ifeblood said:
I've been looking at running a similar cycle as the one I'm currently doing...low test, moderate tren over 8 weeks and 600mg EQ for 16 weeks. With dbols to kick
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Could be interesting... I've actually been considering giving eq another go with some sustanon. Maybe next blast...
 
Why not keep the cycles a bit simpler for now so you can feel out each compound? 4 compounds seems a lot to be working with on your third time around
 
classic34 said:
Why not keep the cycles a bit simpler for now so you can feel out each compound? 4 compounds seems a lot to be working with on your third time around
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Good point...but the other 3 are compounds I've already done. And from what I've read, EQ doesn't even kick in until you're well into it. The dbol would be minimal at 10mg/day, cuz that's what I have and I've seen it granting results at that dose, for 6 weeks. Test at 20/day, tren at 50/day, EQ at 600/wk.
 
1ifeblood said:
Good point...but the other 3 are compounds I've already done. And from what I've read, EQ doesn't even kick in until you're well into it. The dbol would be minimal at 10mg/day, cuz that's what I have and I've seen it granting results at that dose, for 6 weeks. Test at 20/day, tren at 50/day, EQ at 600/wk.
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Yeah I did think about that. How about dropping the tren and if you want doing a little front load with the EQ to get it built up? It would be a nice clean cycle, low sides.
 
classic34 said:
Yeah I did think about that. How about dropping the tren and if you want doing a little front load with the EQ to get it built up? It would be a nice clean cycle, low sides.
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Sounds like a good idea. How would you go about front loading it?
 
1ifeblood said:
Sounds like a good idea. How would you go about front loading it?
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I'm sure you'll get different recommendations from different people, but say you planned on injecting 600 mg once per week, you could instead go twice per week for the first couple of weeks or something like that. Or you could just be patient and wait it out. :)
 
classic34 said:
I'm sure you'll get different recommendations from different people, but say you planned on injecting 600 mg once per week, you could instead go twice per week for the first couple of weeks or something like that. Or you could just be patient and wait it out. :)
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Psh...patience is over rated. :-)
 
Had to get more fiber in my diet so I incorporated some kidney beans into my eggs and turkey ham. Damn this shît is delish!


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1ifeblood said:
Had to get more fiber in my diet so I incorporated some kidney beans into my eggs and turkey ham. Damn this shît is delish! <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101456"/>
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I haven't had black beans in a minute. I may do some black beans and brown rice with my eggs tomorrow. Thanks for the inspiration lol
 
Sounds like you have all kinds of stuff planned. If you are going to go for a bulk why not add NPP instead of Tren. Seems to be an awesome bulker and you get more aid to your joints from nandrolone. That or like Classic said if you wanna run the Eq and don't want to wait as long double up on your first 3 shots.I wouldn't run Sust unless you are going to be on for a long time and switching the esters out to shorteracting later in the run so you can start PCT at a reasonable time. 90mg test decanaote per shot of Sust you will have elevated test levels for several weeks after stopping Sust. Test Decanoate has a half life of a month so it takes forever to clear.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Sounds like you have all kinds of stuff planned. If you are going to go for a bulk why not add NPP instead of Tren. Seems to be an awesome bulker and you get more aid to your joints from nandrolone. That or like Classic said if you wanna run the Eq and don't want to wait as long double up on your first 3 shots.I wouldn't run Sust unless you are going to be on for a long time and switching the esters out to shorteracting later in the run so you can start PCT at a reasonable time. 90mg test decanaote per shot of Sust you will have elevated test levels for several weeks after stopping Sust. Test Decanoate has a half life of a month so it takes forever to clear.
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I was highly considering running NPP actually. And I doubt that I'll ever run Sust...I just don't see the point in having a mixture of esters. Especially since I have no problems (maybe an addiction towards) pinning every day.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Sounds like you have all kinds of stuff planned. If you are going to go for a bulk why not add NPP instead of Tren. Seems to be an awesome bulker and you get more aid to your joints from nandrolone. That or like Classic said if you wanna run the Eq and don't want to wait as long double up on your first 3 shots.I wouldn't run Sust unless you are going to be on for a long time and switching the esters out to shorteracting later in the run so you can start PCT at a reasonable time. 90mg test decanaote per shot of Sust you will have elevated test levels for several weeks after stopping Sust. Test Decanoate has a half life of a month so it takes forever to clear.
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im the one who mentioned i may use sust :-D not planning on coming off for a long ass time.

as far as front loading any long ester, i'm curious if you'd agree with me on the idea to wait to do something like that on your first time with that compound? its like running tren enan at 800mgs a week and having no clue how its going to hit you. could get ugly or you could be fine... idk maybe im getting old i've never been this cautious before lmao.

i'd still run deca over npp for a bulk (especially in the fall or winter, who cares about a little bloat) but thats because i dont want to pin 2ml+ eod or even 1ml ed and still have another compound or two to shoot. deca you'll get dosed at 250-300 which 2ml a week is all you'd need. and its cheaper to buy long esters....
 
superbeast668 said:
im the one who mentioned i may use sust :-D not planning on coming off for a long ass time.

as far as front loading any long ester, i'm curious if you'd agree with me on the idea to wait to do something like that on your first time with that compound? its like running tren enan at 800mgs a week and having no clue how its going to hit you. could get ugly or you could be fine... idk maybe im getting old i've never been this cautious before lmao.

i'd still run deca over npp for a bulk (especially in the fall or winter, who cares about a little bloat) but thats because i dont want to pin 2ml+ eod or even 1ml ed and still have another compound or two to shoot. deca you'll get dosed at 250-300 which 2ml a week is all you'd need. and its cheaper to buy long esters....
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Yeah I'm kinda going away from the idea of front loading EQ if I go that route. I might just buy up some more Dbol and have a fun 6 week jump start. :-) I still have a lot of research into these compounds before I really make any final decisions.
 
I want to be very clear I mean no disrespect, but I think you're thinking too much about compounds and cycles and not enough about training /nutrition.

Before you plan your next cycle I think you should really spend some time getting your technique down on the big three and get your diet locked in.

This way you'll get maximal results, whether on or off cycle.

I'm not trying to say you don't know what you're doing. So don't take it that way. I just think you could get those two factors dialed in a little better. We all could, really.

I'd check out some of the training logs in the powerlifting forum, you'll really learn a lot.
Those guys really know what they're talking about.
 
Nothing wrong with becoming cautious superbeast668 it is a sign of maturity. YOu recognise the risks and actually weigh out the options. As a young buck we are far more likely to just say fug it and go for anything because we feel invincible. When joints start aching regularly and frequency or intensity has to start being rationed to keep you in the game you realize you are no longer bulletproof, or anywhere close.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nothing wrong with becoming cautious superbeast668 it is a sign of maturity. YOu recognise the risks and actually weigh out the options. As a young buck we are far more likely to just say fug it and go for anything because we feel invincible. When joints start aching regularly and frequency or intensity has to start being rationed to keep you in the game you realize you are no longer bulletproof, or anywhere close.
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Holy crap I'm getting old :-( lmao

There's those days of invincibility but it's less and less... Lmao
 
aceroni said:
I want to be very clear I mean no disrespect, but I think you're thinking too much about compounds and cycles and not enough about training /nutrition.

Before you plan your next cycle I think you should really spend some time getting your technique down on the big three and get your diet locked in.

This way you'll get maximal results, whether on or off cycle.

I'm not trying to say you don't know what you're doing. So don't take it that way. I just think you could get those two factors dialed in a little better. We all could, really.

I'd check out some of the training logs in the powerlifting forum, you'll really learn a lot.
Those guys really know what they're talking about.
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I always appreciate your input, buddy...no offense will ever be taken. There's always more to learn and I am nowhere near the mind of thinking I've got it all figured out lol. Every lift and rep I'm trying to dial into that perfect form and feel what my body is trying to tell me. I grew up with a great teacher so I believe I have a decent basis to build upon, the rest is just really understanding what MY perfect form is. I believe everyone has their own. But even though I'm always looking at perfecting my diet (I read more about that than anything) and training...planning your next cycle is just FUN! :-)
 
Have you ever tried carb cycling? It works best for me.

I agree with the fact that everyone is a little different, what's best for your squat might not be for mine, etc
 
superbeast668 said:
I haven't had black beans in a minute. I may do some black beans and brown rice with my eggs tomorrow. Thanks for the inspiration lol[/QUOT

Black beans ftw

aceroni said:
I want to be very clear I mean no disrespect, but I think you're thinking too much about compounds and cycles and not enough about training /nutrition.

Before you plan your next cycle I think you should really spend some time getting your technique down on the big three and get your diet locked in.

This way you'll get maximal results, whether on or off cycle.

I'm not trying to say you don't know what you're doing. So don't take it that way. I just think you could get those two factors dialed in a little better. We all could, really.

I'd check out some of the training logs in the powerlifting forum, you'll really learn a lot.
Those guys really know what they're talking about.
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Great post ace. Lifeblood I'm doing this currently myself in regards to training.

aceroni said:
Have you ever tried carb cycling? It works best for me.

I agree with the fact that everyone is a little different, what's best for your squat might not be for mine, etc
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Agree here as well
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aceroni said:
Have you ever tried carb cycling? It works best for me.

I agree with the fact that everyone is a little different, what's best for your squat might not be for mine, etc
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Actually that's what I've been reading about the most lately. I've done it to an extent but not to the detail that I've gotten from reading Lyle McDonald's Ultimate Diet 2.0. Before I just ate more carbs on workout days and less on off days. But I like the way he incorporates the workouts to coincide with carb depletion and loading. I plan on utilizing it after I recover from PCT.
 
1ifeblood said:
Actually that's what I've been reading about the most lately. I've done it to an extent but not to the detail that I've gotten from reading Lyle McDonald's Ultimate Diet 2.0. Before I just ate more carbs on workout days and less on off days. But I like the way he incorporates the workouts to coincide with carb depletion and loading. I plan on utilizing it after I recover from PCT.
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I actually just got a hold of ud2 the other day. Gonna read it here soon as I have a few others to finish up. Reading about diets and lifting programs is like my ultimate pleasure ha. I'm taking a kindle full of these books on a cruise in July and plan to read up while I get drunk and eat my face off for a week ha.

If anyone has any suggestions for good diet or training books or articles let me know. Feel free to drop them in my log too (in my sig) so I'm no thread jacking lb's ;)
 
booneman77 said:
I actually just got a hold of ud2 the other day. Gonna read it here soon as I have a few others to finish up. Reading about diets and lifting programs is like my ultimate pleasure ha. I'm taking a kindle full of these books on a cruise in July and plan to read up while I get drunk and eat my face off for a week ha.

If anyone has any suggestions for good diet or training books or articles let me know. Feel free to drop them in my log too (in my sig) so I'm no thread jacking lb's ;)
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Ha! This thread is unjackable! Anyone can post whatever the fûck they want! :-) I'm interested to see how the diet works out. You can use it to lean bulk or lean out which I'll be focusing on the latter through the summer. I've already leaned out quite a bit using some if his dieting principles over the last week and a half...just wait until I put my final pics up. An inch off my waist, a loss of only 4lbs and no change in measurements across chest or arms. Hoo buddy! :-) Kinda why I'm hooked on tren too...you can gain muscle without fat or lose fat without muscle! It's going to be hard to run any cycle without it.
 
aceroni said:
I want to be very clear I mean no disrespect, but I think you're thinking too much about compounds and cycles and not enough about training /nutrition.


Before you plan your next cycle I think you should really spend some time getting your technique down on the big three and get your diet locked in.


This way you'll get maximal results, whether on or off cycle.


I'm not trying to say you don't know what you're doing. So don't take it that way. I just think you could get those two factors dialed in a little better. We all could, really.


I'd check out some of the training logs in the powerlifting forum, you'll really learn a lot.
Those guys really know what they're talking about.
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Quality post here, and something we should all remember.

1ifeblood said:
Ha! This thread is unjackable! Anyone can post whatever the fûck they want! :-) I'm interested to see how the diet works out. You can use it to lean bulk or lean out which I'll be focusing on the latter through the summer. I've already leaned out quite a bit using some if his dieting principles over the last week and a half...just wait until I put my final pics up. An inch off my waist, a loss of only 4lbs and no change in measurements across chest or arms. Hoo buddy! :-) Kinda why I'm hooked on tren too...you can gain muscle without fat or lose fat without muscle! It's going to be hard to run any cycle without it.
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Careful with that...using tren too often that is. It can wreck havoc on your kidneys among other things.
 
1ifeblood said:
Ha! This thread is unjackable! Anyone can post whatever the fûck they want! :-) I'm interested to see how the diet works out. You can use it to lean bulk or lean out which I'll be focusing on the latter through the summer. I've already leaned out quite a bit using some if his dieting principles over the last week and a half...just wait until I put my final pics up. An inch off my waist, a loss of only 4lbs and no change in measurements across chest or arms. Hoo buddy! :-) Kinda why I'm hooked on tren too...you can gain muscle without fat or lose fat without muscle! It's going to be hard to run any cycle without it.
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Ah the wonder that is tren. When I ran it this spring I was actually gaining about .5-1lb/wk at a 500 cal deficit and leaning out significantly. And the strength. Oh man. It's just the best
 
So I'm done with the tren and I'm currently running test prop at 60/day which should get me through the rest of this week. Here's another sneak peak at my progress.

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And I'm not done yet!
 
1ifeblood said:
So I'm done with the tren and I'm currently running test prop at 60/day which should get me through the rest of this week. Here's another sneak peak at my progress. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101741"/> And I'm not done yet!
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Looking great brother! Bet it was sad stopping tren! I just started it and can tell I'm going to enjoy it. Keep killing it! :)
 
1ifeblood said:
So I'm done with the tren and I'm currently running test prop at 60/day which should get me through the rest of this week. Here's another sneak peak at my progress. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101741"/> And I'm not done yet!
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Just going to uh save that pic under ummm spankbank
 
LiveToLift said:
Looking great brother! Bet it was sad stopping tren! I just started it and can tell I'm going to enjoy it. Keep killing it! :)
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Yeah it's sad to know my cycle is coming to an end but I'm excited to see what I'm able to do off cycle without assistance. I've learned a lot these past couple months and I plan on using that knowledge to further my progress. This cycle was really meant to give me a jump start in the right direction, which it definitely has. Now I'm just gonna keep on making my gains and getting sexay! :-)
 
Enough teasers! We want the full nudes. :) Every pic you post you're looking better and better.
 
classic34 said:
Enough teasers! We want the full nudes. :) Every pic you post you're looking better and better.
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I promise I'll give a full view of the goods on Sunday. It will be my end of cycle pics along with measurements and I'll throw up a comparison of beginning pics and measurements. Saturday night will be my last shot of test then it's on to PCT time. I'm going to continue to run exem at .175/day through the first week and until I run out. 3 days after last pin I'll start Torem.

snagencyV2.0 said:
on cycle or off, going without ass is never fun :sad:
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LMAO!
 
BABY PICS!

First day at the pool...she's so precious! :-D


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1ifeblood said:
BABY PICS! First day at the pool...she's so precious! :-D <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101985"/>
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Awwwww she's so cute! That's her pwo! :) lol
 
Lukef2000 said:
cute kid 1ife must take after her mother :D
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Lol! She actually looks nothing like her mother. She even says if she didn't give birth to her she wouldn't believe it was hers. :-D
 
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