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It Is Here- AN's Write-Up for 2009's Biggest Product!!!!!!

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The Tanya said:
Hang in there with us....This is one of several we plan on launching this year....We try to appease every pallet!
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No doubt you will, but hormonal will always be king. So if your Aussie like me your screwed! Im still gonna try an get it through though :D Hopefully cause its new it maight slip through their gaurd! Is one bottle enough for a cycle?
 
i cant see the nomenclature.... :squint:

making some pretty big claims to say it is the most potent ever. I hope its not like another.....edited: i shouldnt say names :rofl:
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
Excited to hear the launch day. Will you be posting details in this thread or do I need to expect a new thread?
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Probably several threads- we have some surprises coming up with this one ;)
 
Maradona said:
Is your product the same as :

Androsta-1,5-dien-3-one, 17b-hydroxy-17-methyl

thnx
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nope- this molecule has never been commercially released- completely novel
 
pistonpump said:
i cant see the nomenclature.... :squint:

making some pretty big claims to say it is the most potent ever. I hope its not like another.....edited: i shouldnt say names :rofl:
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17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine
 
I am VERY interested in running this product.. This would be the first PH that I have ever run and with what I've been reading, the claims look out of this world.

But only one thing runs through my mind (being my first PH and all, can't blame me! hah).. I am only 22, my family is known to be 'late bloomers' (i.e. we all grow really slow, we all look MUCH younger than we are, etc). Could running this PH possibly screw with my 'natural' growth phase(s)? Also, my grandfather died of prostate cancer. With the possibility of myself also developing such a horrible disease at an older age, would it not be 'wise' of me to give this product a try? I always assumed that cancerous growth would develop sooner/more easily at a young age when all my hormones are raging than later in life when they are all dropping, but I could be totally wrong, so don't shoot me if I sound like an idiot.

Thanks in advance.
 
Crowne I would definately say you should wait! Not that all of your fears would come true, but if you are a late bloomer, be patient and allow the natural "bloom" to occur! You may find that at a later date you choose not to use any hormonal products. I say this not because I am against hormonal products (not a chance, I love them) but because you should wait to see what you can relaly acheive natuarally, where your weak spots may be, after you have reached your full natural potential! Be safe.

Mr.50
 
Mr.50 said:
Crowne I would definately say you should wait! Not that all of your fears would come true, but if you are a late bloomer, be patient and allow the natural "bloom" to occur! You may find that at a later date you choose not to use any hormonal products. I say this not because I am against hormonal products (not a chance, I love them) but because you should wait to see what you can relaly acheive natuarally, where your weak spots may be, after you have reached your full natural potential! Be safe.

Mr.50
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Thanks man, I can definitely understand what your saying. I just have no idea when I will stop 'naturally' growing, or if I already have, etc. I mean, I haven't gained any height in probably 4+ years, but my metabolism is still fast as hell (I'm an ultra hard gainer). Just gotta keep force stuffing my face.

Anyway, AN reps, thoughts on my previous post?

P.s. Over the past 2 years, I've used Activate Xtreme (a few bottles), X-Factor, M-Stak and the TNT stack. In other words, I've used pretty much every natural test booster that has been praised hah.
 
CrownRoyal said:
the TNT stack. In other words, I've used pretty much every natural test booster that has been praised hah.
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How long did you run the TNT? I ran it as a tester and it is effective. IMHO it just started getting good right at the 3 week mark, right about when I ran out of product. If I were to run it again I would go for 6 to 8 weeks. With a dialed in training routine and diet you could see significant results.
 
B5150 said:
How long did you run the TNT? I ran it as a tester and it is effective. IMHO it just started getting good right at the 3 week mark, right about when I ran out of product. If I were to run it again I would go for 6 to 8 weeks. With a dialed in training routine and diet you could see significant results.
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I ran it for I believe around 3 1/2 weeks, where it started running out.
Since the quantity of each bottle isn't equal in servings, I ran out of everything at separate times. I believe I ran out of T-Rez pretty early, followed by T-Force and then Divanex. I assumed when I ordered the stack that they would all be equal in servings (by looking at the picture on the site, where each bottle is the same size, which is far from accurate). I should have read the label first I suppose.
 
hey buddy, i was a late bloomer as well. didnt start shaving normally until maybe 2 years ago, and its still only around my chin and mouth, no full blown beared here, and im your age. anyways, have you had an x-ray recently? X-rays can show if your growth plates have closed, appearantly mine have closed but i still look young ya know. Im gona rep you for spekaing up and asking cause i was kinda wandering the same thing. I will tell you this though, since i have started lifting about a year and a half ago it seems my test levels have surged. But hey bro if you dont take ''the one'' you should look into dth, man oh man I didnt get alot of strength gains but i can definatley tell it did something. But i am very interested in this product and if theres no shutdown im probably gonna run it after i read some logs on here.
 
oh look into igf-2 as well, im planning on runnig that with x-factor and stoked, sounds like a promising stack.
 
my theories on prostate cancer.

your a man if you live long enough we are all gonna get it my grandpa is also in remission from it


as far as growth plates ive always been told 18-20 range is when we really stop growing

im not an endocrinologist so i cannot say in terms of growth plates i really dont see it happening
 
Outside Backer said:
my theories on prostate cancer.

your a man if you live long enough we are all gonna get it my grandpa is also in remission from it


as far as growth plates ive always been told 18-20 range is when we really stop growing

im not an endocrinologist so i cannot say in terms of growth plates i really dont see it happening
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my dad had his prostate removed. the only meaningful thing with prostate cancer is that it gets caught early enough. Its not like colon cancer where you are likely to die from it
 
We all take risks if we pursue 'chemical' assistance in our training. I suppose you just need to weigh up the likely pros and cons.
 
so could this product actually be deemed dangerous if the user has growth plates which haven't fully fused yet? In other words, could the use of this product negatively affect the natural cycle of growth in a person.

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BBR said:
We all take risks if we pursue 'chemical' assistance in our training. I suppose you just need to weigh up the likely pros and cons.
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....and keep in mind that there are ways to minimize potential issues regarding any compound by being proactive- keep in mind that there are a list of recommendations on the write-up for The One concerning training, nutrition, rest, and supplementation. While I can't say that following the recommendations perfectly will result in a genuinely perfect product experience (mainly b/c I think that this is impossible)- they will greatly maximize your chances of getting some genuinely special results from The One, if you catch my drift:cheers:
 
CrownRoyal said:
so could this product actually be deemed dangerous if the user has growth plates which haven't fully fused yet? In other words, could the use of this product negatively affect the natural cycle of growth in a person.

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those are really 2 different questions. There is no particular health danger that i know of related to the growth plates closing "early" (as by 21 almost everyone's growth plates have closed), but yes like any exogenous hormone it could affect the natural cycle of growth. Thats the entire purpose of exogenous hormones - to cause more muscle growth than you naturally would get. Might you not reach your maximum height? Sure thats possible if your growth plates haven't already closed.
 
EasyEJL said:
those are really 2 different questions. There is no particular health danger that i know of related to the growth plates closing "early" (as by 21 almost everyone's growth plates have closed), but yes like any exogenous hormone it could affect the natural cycle of growth. Thats the entire purpose of exogenous hormones - to cause more muscle growth than you naturally would get. Might you not reach your maximum height? Sure thats possible if your growth plates haven't already closed.
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most people are done growing by the time they are 21-22....
 
BBR said:
We all take risks if we pursue 'chemical' assistance in our training. I suppose you just need to weigh up the likely pros and cons.
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Very true bud, very true! :goodpost:

Cheers!:cheers:
 
rms80 ... Don't get me wrong I wasn't saying THE ONE was any worse than any other product, just generally speaking, the individual needs to take some responsibility and ensure that they are properly informed before undertaking an hormonal cycle.
 
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BBR said:
rms80 ... Don't get me wrong I wasn't saying THE ONE was any worse than any other product, just generally speaking, the individual needs to take some responsibility and ensure that they are properly informed before undertaking an hormonal cycle.
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Absolutely 100% agree w/ you- that is why I included as much detailed info as I could in the write-up.....
 
damn those pills look sexy!!!!
 
I'm getting an xray this week to see if my growth plates have fused. If they have fused and I follow everything to the t, I don't see how this could be harmful for me. Being only 22, I can still reap the same benefits that the older crowd will gain, correct? I'm really hoping this will kickstart my current bulking schedule. My target weight is still another 17lbs away.

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ok man, just because of the colors im definiatley gonna get bulked up, lol i love blue and black. but its also for those "hard gainers"
 
CrownRoyal said:
I'm getting an xray this week to see if my growth plates have fused. If they have fused and I follow everything to the t, I don't see how this could be harmful for me. Being only 22, I can still reap the same benefits that the older crowd will gain, correct? I'm really hoping this will kickstart my current bulking schedule. My target weight is still another 17lbs away.

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I have looked at the most recent research on epiphyseal closure- and it seems to be more estrogen-related than anything- a lot of the latest clinical trials are using aromatase inhibitors like arimidex in conjunction with GH to stop this occurrence in shorter stature children- I found one study where the arimidex plus GH group grew 5.1 cm taller than the placebo group over a period of a couple years.....
 
you more than likely will not continue to grow taller after you are 22, how long have you been at your current height?
 
rms80 said:
I have looked at the most recent research on epiphyseal closure- and it seems to be more estrogen-related than anything- a lot of the latest clinical trials are using aromatase inhibitors like arimidex in conjunction with GH to stop this occurrence in shorter stature children- I found one study where the arimidex plus GH group grew 5.1 cm taller than the placebo group over a period of a couple years.....
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So in other words, increased estrogen seems to be the culprit responsible for closing growth plates over increased test/dht? I'm assuming arimidex suppresses estrogen and GH would open the plates back up?.. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't claim to be an expert, just a younger dude making sure he's not making any 'dire' mistakes, hah.
 
CrownRoyal said:
So in other words, increased estrogen seems to be the culprit responsible for closing growth plates over increased test/dht? I'm assuming arimidex suppresses estrogen and GH would open the plates back up?.. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't claim to be an expert, just a younger dude making sure he's not making any 'dire' mistakes, hah.
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once they are closed, they are closed, unfortunately....however- limiting estrogen or completely suppressing it apparently can delay the closing of the epiphyses- GH actually has a feedback loop that allows it to convert to estrogen in small amounts......
 
rms80 said:
once they are closed, they are closed, unfortunately....however- limiting estrogen or completely suppressing it apparently can delay the closing of the epiphyses- GH actually has a feedback loop that allows it to convert to estrogen in small amounts......
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rms,

Not that I question you.....but I am just wondering how can gh (a peptide) convert to estrogen (a steroid)? I know a bit but I dont know everything and I am just trying to figure out how this could be possible?

Mr.50
 
Mr.50 said:
rms,

Not that I question you.....but I am just wondering how can gh (a peptide) convert to estrogen (a steroid)? I know a bit but I dont know everything and I am just trying to figure out how this could be possible?

Mr.50
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Conversion is probably a bad choice of nomenclature- you are right, one can't convert to another- co-regulate is probably a much better choice of words....

the connection has more to do with receptor expression, co-regulation, and signalling between GH and estrogen- estrogen and GH can co-regulate (by having a feedback loop) one another, and estrogen has been shown to inhibit JAK/STAT signalling by growth hormone, which can in turn allow for extra-nuclear signalling (and the eventual signalling) of DNA
 
rms80 said:
Conversion is probably a bad choice of nomenclature- you are right, one can't convert to another- co-regulate is probably a much better choice of words....

the connection has more to do with receptor expression, co-regulation, and signalling between GH and estrogen- estrogen and GH can co-regulate (by having a feedback loop) one another, and estrogen has been shown to inhibit JAK/STAT signalling by growth hormone, which can in turn allow for extra-nuclear signalling (and the eventual signalling) of DNA
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Ah yes....very interesting! Thanks for the info!

Mr.50
 
EasyEJL said:
with correct diet, you can quite possibly hit that in 1 cycle
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17lbs of lean mass gain is really possible from a single cycle, assuming solid fundamentals (diet, exercise, sleep)?

That's hard to believe!

What percentage of that newly gained mass should one expect to keep after going off cycle (assuming of course, proper PCT and continued training with natural substances thereafter).

Thanks in advance. I've never considered trying anything hormonal before but this has me interested.
 
Azaloth said:
17lbs of lean mass gain is really possible from a single cycle, assuming solid fundamentals (diet, exercise, sleep)?

That's hard to believe!

What percentage of that newly gained mass should one expect to keep after going off cycle (assuming of course, proper PCT and continued training with natural substances thereafter).

Thanks in advance. I've never considered trying anything hormonal before but this has me interested.
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if you keep all variables constant- with proper PCT, rest, training, etc. you may keep roughly 70-80% after the first 6 weeks of post cycle, and then 60-70% over the next 6 weeks (up to week 12)....those are pretty reasonable numbers from data I have seen
 
rms80 said:
if you keep all variables constant- with proper PCT, rest, training, etc. you may keep roughly 70-80% after the first 6 weeks of post cycle, and then 60-70% over the next 6 weeks (up to week 12)....those are pretty reasonable numbers from data I have seen
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So, over the 12 weeks after your cycle your likely to lose almost 50%??! or did i read you totally wrong? (very possible i did) cause that would be kinda depressing! basically you'll be dropping muscle and losing strength for 12 weeks after!
 
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