islandmagic needs some votes on his 2 stack

[islandmagic]

Hi Folks some folks know me some will get to know me......


I have invested some good cash on 2 different stacks.. goal is for lean mass +power and strength... I will start my 1st cycle Jan1 8weeks i can only run two cycle this year so this are the two I am going to use and log pics too~~~~

I have used one Company only for PH (primordial performance) Then I I got turned on NTBM and they have some pretty good stuff ( Trans is the bomb... So I want to see who has the better PH kind of a show down on what supps works the best kind of thing so.... also I have
Var enough for 8 week run 80mg a week maybe next year!

PP Stack (very happy!!!)
V3 andro
AndroDrive
AndroMass
AndroLean


NTBM stack: ( Need to see)
Helladrol
FORMA-STANZOL
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PCT:
Torem
TRS stack
FORMA-STANZOL ( I know Over Kill Shi### and Giggles
Hell I am going to use Hcgenerate I got use it!!!

Support sups
Multi
Omega
Joint supps ( not the one you smoke)
Liver support

 

[Blergs]

lol i thought it said 2 sack

 

[Blergs]

NTBM stack is what i woudl pick and save the money you woudl spend on the other one and buy a house lol

 

[islandmagic]

but always have a house.... pp makes good.products

 

[JudoJosh]

I wouldnt use formastanzol in a PCT and I prefer clomid over torem (but thats more of a preference with the SERM)

 

[R1balla]

why would u want to take andromass and androlean at the same time? i mean, maybe it is effective, i just havent seen anybody talk about that certain stack or log it

 

[islandmagic]

So My thing is if you want lean mass while using AM then adding lean will help fat reduction... So I am been asking around about taking AM at full dose for 8 weeks instead of there recommended dose of

8 Week
Energy & Endurance + More tightness, fat loss, & power​

• 8-10lbs in lean mass
• 15-25% reduction in body fat
• 15-30% increase in strength
• Increased Vo2 Max
• Reduced bloat & water
• Increased aggression
• 6 AndroDrive + 3 AndroLean + 3 AndroMass* for 8weeks

I am going to use AM at the full dose of 6 instead of 3 that PP Rec... But I have not gotten any response on this yet... is it a good plan or not because I would think I would need a full dose of the Lean... This what I am having a issues with... As stated I want lean mass so I can keep playing basket ball and swim at a high level ( to big I will just sink to the bottom) and basket ball my knees will just buckle under the stress of the add weight!

 

[islandmagic]

I wouldnt use formastanzol in a PCT and I prefer clomid over torem (but thats more of a preference with the SERM)

JJ long time...

I see why you would not want to use forma.... so I will take it out---- I have already have torem so



Hope all is well with you

 

[islandmagic]

hey R1 and JJ you for got to vote

 

[ryansm]

So My thing is if you want lean mass while using AM then adding lean will help fat reduction...

Diet will dictate this, do you need to lose fat? Pick a goal and stick with it for the cycle. If you are looking to drop fat, run the AL and then run the AM.

 

[JudoJosh]

JJ long time...

I see why you would not want to use forma.... so I will take it out---- I have already have torem so



Hope all is well with you

Yea man how you been? Havent seen you in a while bud. I think they got rid of all your exploding smilies too in the board switch

As for PCT, honestly torem + the TRS from PP is more than enough for your PCT for either of the above cycles IMO

As for the clomid vs torem.. It is really just a preference of mine. Torem is a a relatively new SERM so I just always brushed all the hype around it off as just that, hype because it was new but honestly I dont know much about it. With the toxicity of nolva and the fairly proven effectiveness of clomid, clomid has always been my go to SERM.

hey R1 and JJ you for got to vote

Didnt even know there was a poll (im on my phone and viewing the board via tapatalk)

So is the poll on which of the two above cycles would be better?

So My thing is if you want lean mass while using AM then adding lean will help fat reduction... So I am been asking around about taking AM at full dose for 8 weeks instead of there recommended dose of

8 Week
Energy & Endurance + More tightness, fat loss, & power​

• 8-10lbs in lean mass
• 15-25% reduction in body fat
• 15-30% increase in strength
• Increased Vo2 Max
• Reduced bloat & water
• Increased aggression
• 6 AndroDrive + 3 AndroLean + 3 AndroMass* for 8weeks

I am going to use AM at the full dose of 6 instead of 3 that PP Rec... But I have not gotten any response on this yet... is it a good plan or not because I would think I would need a full dose of the Lean... This what I am having a issues with... As stated I want lean mass so I can keep playing basket ball and swim at a high level ( to big I will just sink to the bottom) and basket ball my knees will just buckle under the stress of the add weight!

I can see what your trying to accomplish here and think, out of the androseries, androhard + andromass would be a better option.

Or you can run the androlean first solo to cut down the weight and then do andromass for a lean bulk, but as ryan said gaining lean mass (without all the fat of a traditional bulk) will be highly dependent on your diet.

 

[islandmagic]

My diet is on point it is a way of life for me... My goal as stated is for lean mass with out gaining to much fat... that is way I am went with Ad stack...... This is what is stated on PP site Energy & Endurance + More tightness, fat loss, & power = what I am looking to do




1. should I run AM at full dose
2. if so then should do AL at full dose


History:


I know my body fat is 18 right now do to injuries - I could not swim play Basketball and run = No cardio so I gain some fat and lost some of my mojo+ I am going to get surgery next friday and will be out until Jan1st= Come Jan I am going to kick it in high gear...


Plus I read great post about priming your body before you start your cycle it was one of the best post I read and it made so much since -I currently using diet plan by Tom Venuto without any supps I have started the plan on 11/29/11 will keep going until the end of 10/1/12

I just want the right cycle so I can get back in shape for my swimming ,5k races and basketball...

Diet is always the key to unlocking the door of success

 

[JudoJosh]

1. should I run AM at full dose
2. if so then should do AL at full dose

I would shoot Matt Porter a PM and ask him his advice as he would probably be the best person to give you a solid answer on this.