INSANE WITH THE TREN-STANE

DAY 21
BW this morning 199.0

PWO today was ANS Diablo thermo. I love using this as a PWO tastes & works great.

BB flat bench press narrow grip
(115.5x10)(115.5x10)
Switch to wide grip
(165.5x2)(165.5x2)(165.5x2)
(171.5x1)(171.5x1)(171.5x2) PR
Never free weight BP over 165 before.

Mid incline Db flys per arm
(15x10)(15x10)(17.5x10)(17.5x12)(20x10)

Decline DB flys
(20x10)(20x10)(22.5x10)(25x10)

Full incline DB flys
(25x10)

Switch to full incline DB press
(25x10)(30x10)(35x10)(40x1).. Lol fail

DB trap shrugs per arm
(40x20)(45x25)(45x25)(45x25)

Standing overhead DB shrug/press
(20x10)(20x20)(25x12)(25x16)(25x15 til fail)

Had great pumps today more than norm. Wasn't gonna take 60mg til tomorrow but couldn't wait and had to see of it was different than 50mg...... It's cool.
Drank over a gallon of h20 today no prob.
After standing at work all day I pretty much pumped all night till I ran out of steam. Be sleep'n good.
Take care all & sick lift'n!!
 
skinnybones said:
DAY 21
BW this morning 199.0

PWO today was ANS Diablo thermo. I love using this as a PWO tastes & works great.

BB flat bench press narrow grip
(115.5x10)(115.5x10)
Switch to wide grip
(165.5x2)(165.5x2)(165.5x2)
(171.5x1)(171.5x1)(171.5x2) PR
Never free weight BP over 165 before.

Mid incline Db flys per arm
(15x10)(15x10)(17.5x10)(17.5x12)(20x10)

Decline DB flys
(20x10)(20x10)(22.5x10)(25x10)

Full incline DB flys
(25x10)

Switch to full incline DB press
(25x10)(30x10)(35x10)(40x1).. Lol fail

DB trap shrugs per arm
(40x20)(45x25)(45x25)(45x25)

Standing overhead DB shrug/press
(20x10)(20x20)(25x12)(25x16)(25x15 til fail)

Had great pumps today more than norm. Wasn't gonna take 60mg til tomorrow but couldn't wait and had to see of it was different than 50mg...... It's cool.
Drank over a gallon of h20 today no prob.
After standing at work all day I pretty much pumped all night till I ran out of steam. Be sleep'n good.
Take care all & sick lift'n!!
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Nice to see some PR's and progress, with a new Avi to go with it too!
All is looking good Skinny looks like the stack is kicking in and I will take your enthusiasm to mean not much noticed lethargy.

Keep killin it
 
skinnybones said:
PWO today was ANS Diablo thermo. I love using this as a PWO tastes & works great.
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I'll have to give that a shot on my next PWO order.

Nice work Bones. Good new avi as well.
 
New avi, new prs soon you'll want a new name! Awesome job breaking your BP plateau!
 
Driven2lift said:
Nice to see some PR's and progress, with a new Avi to go with it too!
All is looking good Skinny looks like the stack is kicking in and I will take your enthusiasm to mean not much noticed lethargy.

Keep killin it
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Thanks guys :) glad you like the Avi.
Yeah feels real good this week , must be kicking in more. I'll still go to 60mg each this week & see how I feel. Might bridge msten next week.
You know I did feel lethargic last week but I thought it was cuz I was sick. I forgot that was a side so..... Noted** lethargy on week 3 @ 50mg of Epi & Tren.
 
Ha speaking of taxes .... I haven't done mine yet. Busy giving driving lessons.

DAY 22
BW 198.5
I wasn't going to do any pecs today cuz I did em good yesterday & a little on Monday also, but some 24 year old 250 pound troll from work begged me to workout with him tonight & show him some exercises. "He's the kinda guy that just wants to see if he's stronger than or can do more than the next guy."
So I showed him a little bit of what I've been doing &....... he couldn't hang at all. Terrible for a young person. Needless to say I made him look pretty bad.... but really tried to help him.
I benched pressed max with him tonight on the rack & used my new bored weights that I made & just barley failed at 190# :)
So I need to hit 190 then...... Ooooo 200 is so close.
Don't know what my max is again yet but .... TREN-STANE is working good!
Super light tonight
Curl bar
(42.5x10)(47.5x10)(47.5x10)(52.5x10)(57.5x7)

DB standing curl per/arm
(22.5x10)(25x13)(27.5x10)

DB front lateral raises
(12.5x10)(12.5x10)(15x10)
DB side lateral raises
(12.5x10)(12.5x10)(15x10)
Notes: a lot more acne than normal lately for my age & for the record , I don't usually have any pimples.
 
DAY 23
Alls good . I feel great. It's nice to know I'm for sure getting stronger.
Vascularity is really increasing the last few days. I haven't taken a rest day in about 5 days so as of right now it's a rest day & I'm going to bed after some more food & supps.
Good night :). Safe lifting!
 
Caught this log late lol but in totally subbed. Great progress so far man! Like the power rack setup to! (I'm jealous ha). keep killin it!
 
skinnybones said:
DAY 23 Alls good . I feel great. It's nice to know I'm for sure getting stronger. Vascularity is really increasing the last few days. I haven't taken a rest day in about 5 days so as of right now it's a rest day & I'm going to bed after some more food & supps. Good night :). Safe lifting!
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Take it easy. Max out on some food and enjoy the rest!
 
skinnybones said:
DAY 23
Alls good . I feel great. It's nice to know I'm for sure getting stronger.
Vascularity is really increasing the last few days. I haven't taken a rest day in about 5 days so as of right now it's a rest day & I'm going to bed after some more food & supps.
Good night :). Safe lifting!
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time for some R&R and food PR's!!! LOL
 
Day 25 Morning body weight 198.5

DAY 26
Morning BW 202

Power rack flat BP close grip
(115.5x12)
(115.5x10)
(135.5x10) regular grip
(135.5x6) regular grip
(185.5x2) :) PR come on 200
Failed again at 191.5 but was close!

DB side lateral raise per arm
(12.5x10)x3
(15x10)x2
(17.5x10)
DB front lateral raise per arm
(12.5x10)x3
(15x10)x2
(17.5x10)

Seated trap shrugs per arm
(27.5x25)
(32.5x25)
(37.5x25)
(42.5x30)

DB seated shoulder/trap press per arm
(17.5x12)
(22.5x10)
(25x12)
(27.5x10)
(27.5x15)

DB curls per arm
(22.5x10)
(25x10)
(25x12)
(27.5x10)
(30x10)x2

20 mins.of abs
100 Vups

Ok.. so I'm definitely getting stronger, new PR again today on bench. I'm definitely getting bigger. My traps were bigger than I've ever seen before ..lol... it was sick.
I think I'm gonna finish my last 9 days of Tren-stane at 50mgs even tho I tried a few days at 60mgs. My reasons are that I just can't sleep good at night on the 60mgs & the night sweats are a little irritating also contributing to the sleeplessness. Also heartburn is more promanant along with upset stomach making it hard to eat. So some tums before bed sometimes. Been eating tho my night time BW before bed has been 206-207.
I'll be log'n tomorrow so safe lifting to everyone!!
 
That's some good work there bonesy.

Can I suggest that if you're trying to hit 200, which it actually looks like you can, don't do so much volume before trying to hit a lift. Make sure you're good and warmed up then use a few reps at increasing weights to get there. It looks like you could hit 200 on your next chest day.
 
mountainman33 said:
That's some good work there bonesy.

Can I suggest that if you're trying to hit 200, which it actually looks like you can, don't do so much volume before trying to hit a lift. Make sure you're good and warmed up then use a few reps at increasing weights to get there. It looks like you could hit 200 on your next chest day.
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I totally agree with you man. I wasn't planing on doing bench max, only a warm up but it felt so damn easy I just had to see....
 
ok ...I have a real question if some one could help me please.
I start the Msten tomorrow and I was wondering if i needed something stronger than the AD-3pct by Lecheek that i have and was going to run.Does anyone think that nolva would be worth taking for me ? I am on TRT but... $hitty patchs.
IM feeling pretty shut down at the moment and still have 3 weeks left. and am looking for the strongest test base also cuz what im doing now aint cutting it for me.
Thanks for anyones help :)
 
Tr3st! Any way you can get switched to test cyp or smth?

There's a new long acting test that just got approved too.
 
started the Msten today. going with 18mgs per day for 3 weeks. plus 1 more week of Tren-stane. allready the Msten is crazy. lethargy on the first day ...lol...
im really pumped up just being at work, veins are bulging out alot. been wanting to lift all day long. My damn phone broke so i havent been able to log much latley since i cant use the computer at work.(dick boss) gotta get that phone fixed its got all my before pics on it!
 
skinnybones said:
started the Msten today. going with 18mgs per day for 3 weeks. plus 1 more week of Tren-stane. allready the Msten is crazy. lethargy on the first day ...lol... im really pumped up just being at work, veins are bulging out alot. been wanting to lift all day long. My damn phone broke so i havent been able to long much latley since i cant use the computer at work.(dick boss) gotta get that phone fixed its got all my before pics on it!
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This log just got kicked into high gear!!
 
Gotta put this in the log. Never really had back pumps on halo or the epi/tren but oh $hit, didnt take any taurine at all today and I can say that i do have them now on the Msten,first day.
Glad Ive been stocked up.

Whats the best thing to take for the lethargy?
 
Msten gave me some pretty legit rebound gyno after my SERM, around wk 5 of PCT. Buddy just had the exact same thing happen right now after DMZ, in wk 5 after cycle. Both are dry compounds that are fairly suppressive, so the logic is when natty test production gets suppressed hard the body tries to equalize so estro follows suit. Obv estro being held down for a period is gonna have it rebound back up out of the hole when natty production of test picks back up, & it's that rebound that'll promote gyno bad.

Nolva is a good idea; I'd say 2 wks after Msten ends unless you feel the need to bring it in earlier. It's dirt cheap & good insurance, & it'll let your estro run free & find its balance in time while protecting your pecs.

As for lethargy...can you add more patches? This would be my first move. Make sure water & liver support are high, as Msten is very toxic & will cause lethargy regardless (it's poison lol). Otherwise low doses of a stim like caffeine, such as coffee or tea throughout the day could help. Complex carbs & b vitamins can help too; Msten supercharges glycogen storage like sdrol & dmz & seems to like more carbs just like they do to compensate.
 
Hyde said:
Msten gave me some pretty legit rebound gyno after my SERM, around wk 5 of PCT. Buddy just had the exact same thing happen right now after DMZ, in wk 5 after cycle. Both are dry compounds that are fairly suppressive, so the logic is when natty test production gets suppressed hard the body tries to equalize so estro follows suit. Obv estro being held down for a period is gonna have it rebound back up out of the hole when natty production of test picks back up, & it's that rebound that'll promote gyno bad.

Nolva is a good idea; I'd say 2 wks after Msten ends unless you feel the need to bring it in earlier. It's dirt cheap & good insurance, & it'll let your estro run free & find its balance in time while protecting your pecs.

As for lethargy...can you add more patches? This would be my first move. Make sure water & liver support are high, as Msten is very toxic & will cause lethargy regardless (it's poison lol). Otherwise low doses of a stim like caffeine, such as coffee or tea throughout the day could help. Complex carbs & b vitamins can help too; Msten supercharges glycogen storage like sdrol & dmz & seems to like more carbs just like they do to compensate.
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Oh Hyde, my man...thank you so much for your advice. I had a feeling i should be doing a little more since i introduced the Msten. You are most def THE MAN.
what would you suggest as far as protocol for an AI or some Exemstane while on the Msten?
does Orbit have the Nolva i want?
And Thanks Again
 
DAY 29
Morning BW 199.5 still +9.5 actually been a couple under the last few days but i aint sweating it.
Seems like the size has started setting in the last few days from the Tren-stane.. personally Im tired of taking so many pills. But as you know I started the Msten today.
I wont say the brand cuz it aint Ironflex. Normally wouldnt be taking it cuz this is supposed to be my Ironflex Tren-stane log but a friend gave it to me and i couldnt help myself & i know i wont be running any PHs for a while after this.
Next wednessday will be the end on the Tren-stane run but I will continue it with the Msten. I have no major noticeable side from the Tren-stane except for what I mentioned in the earlier parts of the log. Nothing new ,pretty mellow stuff for running 60 of both for 2 weeks.I personally liked the Halo x better cuz of the way it made me feel ...it was also my first. seemed to have lost some fat while getting bigger and gaining weight so no complaints at all about this gear. Also got a hell of alot stronger than i was, any ways final review on the Tren-stane next wednessday along with before and after pics and before and after measurements.

Flat Bench Press Wide Grip
(134.5x5)(165.5x2)(184.5x1)(165.5x2)(165.5x1)(115.5x25)

Db curls
(27.5x10x3)(30x7)(30x10x3)(32.5x10)(35x8)

Over head BB Press Front
(50x10x3)(60x6)(60x10)(65x10)
Over Head Press Behind the Neck
(50x10x3)(60x10x2)(65x10)

Quad extention per leg no brace
(25x15)(30x15)(32.5x15x2)(35x10)(40x8)

Ham Curls per leg
(35x10 OUCH) switched to both legs at same time(30x10)(30x5) had to stop knee was killing. For sure not my strongest point.

Oh yea & 100 push ups at work ...lol..thats it for today.I finally get to back to that old gym tomorrow so ill gets pics of that old ass machine ...i got my phone working kind of. Safe lifting everyone
 
After I posted DAY 29 workout I could not go to sleep at all. Slept like 3 hours last night. I got up at about midnight and did about 30 mins of abs along with about 70 V-ups. Then did a s**t load of front and side lat raises.

DAY 30 morning BW 199.5
Will post day 30 workout later in the evening.
 
skinnybones said:
After I posted DAY 29 workout I could not go to sleep at all. Slept like 3 hours last night. I got up at about midnight and did about 30 mins of abs along with about 70 V-ups. Then did a s**t load of front and side lat raises.

DAY 30 morning BW 199.5
Will post day 30 workout later in the evening.
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Sounds like a crazy night. Good luck falling asleep after getting your pump on too lol.

I had some unexpected cardio chasing my pup around the yard at 1am as it was -20 and she wouldn't come in
 
DAY 31

Military press
(70x10)(70x10)(80x5)(80x5)(90x5)

Face pulls
(100x10)(120x10)(120x10)(130x5)

Tri pull down with rope
(70x15)(80x12)(90x10)(90x10)(100x5)

Had to go out side a few times to throw up during my workout. I ended up only staying about an hour. Felt upset eating dinner last night too but I force fed. I'm assuming it's from the Msten.
 
Yikes sorry to hear about the stomach issues Skinny. Sounds like youre pushing through it. You may need to increase meal frequency so you have manageable portion sizes, or try to keep to lower volume foods to get it all in.

Hope this is just temporary for you, I'm sure someone else with experience with that PH will comment
 
Driven2lift said:
Yikes sorry to hear about the stomach issues Skinny. Sounds like youre pushing through it. You may need to increase meal frequency so you have manageable portion sizes, or try to keep to lower volume foods to get it all in.

Hope this is just temporary for you, I'm sure someone else with experience with that PH will comment
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It's all good . Not as bad as it sounds. More of a sensitive stomach. I just wanted to get in more time at that gym. Alls well really.
 
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This one is real scary. It's like a glob of steel and bike chains... Lol . Scared to get in it! The book said it does like five things at once lol
 
I haven't seen chains on gym equipment in YEARS! That's like some serious retro stuff right there. Watch you finners! (That's what I would tell my kids)
 
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