WARBIRDWS6
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notice the yankee cap? even though he probably lives in Utah? Every retarded white boy who thinks he is cool has one. Its part of the "uniform".
increased blood pressure with anabeta?
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notice the yankee cap? even though he probably lives in Utah? Every retarded white boy who thinks he is cool has one. Its part of the "uniform".
J19891
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lol my city is infested with white kids like that. It's a weird blend of country and innercity I like to refer to as "hoodbilly".
"HEY MOMS! I'M GOING TO THE JEEZY CONCERT!"
"SHUT UP THOMAS, ME AND YOUR GRANDPAPPY ARE COOKIN' METH"
bill86
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eh, its ok, still not great. it was going down every day since i made the thread, but spiked today (i drank last night, which im sure is the reason). average yesterday was 128/79 which is great considering it was in the 150's/90's last week, but id say today's average is around 140/80.
doctors appt is coming up friday, he said ive gotta get on meds if its still in the 140's which i REALLY dont want to have to do... i think stressing over my blood pressure is raising it haha. but i had a little previous success with hawthorn berry, so i went by vitamin shop and got some 'blood pressure factors' stuff which has some different things in it, primarily hawthorn berry, so hopefully that'll help bring it down a few points
AaronJP1
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bill86 said:
I had mine checked and my was bit on the higher side the top number was at least but I was like 127 if I remember correctly, not sure have to look at the paperwork.
I'm going to have to cease all supplements soon, because I catch a new headache every single damn day and I do not know why. They are not excruiating painful just distracting and annoying.
WARBIRDWS6
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That is part of the game dude, you're gonna get headaches from this that and the other. working out hard, taking certain supps, stress, yada yada.....that is what tylenol and aspirin are for. You can't throw away the lifestyle just because of some headaches.
WARBIRDWS6
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I take aspirin anyways for the heart, but I just add in a couple tylenols when necessary. I try to ride it out if possible, but at least once a day maybe twice I gotta take some.....at least when taking these damn PH's and test boosters and some of these other supps....if I'm not taking anything wild, I usually can get away with taking tylenol a handful of times per week max though. but lately? with all this stuff? its daily. just how it is. better than suffering, and once a day is not so bad.
JudoJosh
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Have you discontinued the anabeta use or are you still taking it?
WARBIRDWS6
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I tolerate aspirin fine luckily......not sure on the amount of tylenol necessary per week to do liver damage? I figure once a day at a few capsules should be fine. So long as you are not on any harsh oral steriods or PH's. supposedly the PP PH's are liver safe, so I'm not really taking anything else that abuses the liver. The liver seems to be a resilient organ, not so sure tylenol would beat it up too much unless you took massive amounts like the percocet abusers.
WARBIRDWS6
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I have 4 anabetas I got on the Erase Pro deal.....i will run them during PCT after the 6 weeks of AH followed by 8 weeks of either AL or AL/AH.....I will be sure to monitor my BP and see what it does to me, but won't be for 2-3 months. I gotta check my BP while on the AH as well, probably tomorrow or friday.....that will be 10 plus days on the stuff so far, might as well check it out......
WARBIRDWS6
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I actually take a BP med, I always have normal (high end normal) BP.... but my cardiologist wants it mid to low normal, so I have to take that to keep it there. I didn't take them for a while, but I have been taking them lately. I have an excess due to not taking them for a while, so I could always take an extra one if my BP went up. I also take COQ10 with hawthorne among many other supps for the heart. I should be taking that toco-8 I see at PP. sounds like it would be good for me.
bill86
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no, i quit using the anabeta last week. like i said, it was coming down several points a day up until today (which i think is due my excessive alcohol consumption last night, haha).
warbird - what do you take? any negative sides?
i just started michaels blood pressure factors today, gonna add olive leaf extract next week (heard wonderful things about it, in one study it brought down BP by 12 points systolic and 5 diastolic) along with some garlic, calcium magnesium, and was thinking of throwing in some celery seed extract (its in the BP factors stuff, but its listed last on a proprietary blend, so im not sure that im getting enough from it). i always take fish oil too.
warbird - what do you take? any negative sides?
i just started michaels blood pressure factors today, gonna add olive leaf extract next week (heard wonderful things about it, in one study it brought down BP by 12 points systolic and 5 diastolic) along with some garlic, calcium magnesium, and was thinking of throwing in some celery seed extract (its in the BP factors stuff, but its listed last on a proprietary blend, so im not sure that im getting enough from it). i always take fish oil too.
bill86
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also, ive bene using a cuff i bought at the drug store to take my readings. its pretty small and ive read that a small cuff can give erroneously high readings AND others have said it can be erroneously low. either way, it kind of hurts to take, and afterwards i feel like i dont have enough blood flow going into my arm. its for arms 9-13 inches, last time i measured i was a little over 17 flexed, and based on how much my arms grow while flexed, id say theyre probably around 15 relaxed. it says you should be able to fit 2 fingers under the cuff which i definitely cant do comfortably, so i guess theres always a chance my BP is actually lower than the readings ive been getting on this machine, although i guess the opposite could be argued as well
WARBIRDWS6
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I was taking Erase and DAA for a month and just added androhard the past week-10 days.....I was taking 4 AH a day and was fine, I started to take 5 a day and did start to get worse headaches and a little CNS stimulation....gonna check my BP tomorrow, probably at the pharmacy in one of those chairs with the cuff....at least I know my baseline on that machine, so anything additional will tell me how much it jumped if at all. If I have to bring it back to 4 a day? that is what I will do. Gonna give 5 a day another week I guess and see how I tolerate it. Hope the BP is normal tomorrow at least.
WARBIRDWS6
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for cardiovascular health I take arginine, taurine, COQ10 w/ hawthorne, aspirin, magnesium, carnitine, potassium, 5,000 fish oil caps, probably a lot of stuff I missed since I take all the regular stuff too like multi, zinc, C, etc
bill86
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oh, gotcha, no prescription meds?
im not too keen on the proprietary blend in this stuff i bought, but they had a lot of different types and the lady said this was the most popular, and ive been reading really good reviews for it online. i mean, its a 1.75g blend with hawthorn berry as the top ingredient, which is mostly what i wanted anyway (i saw modest success with hawthorn berry in the past). plus its got 750% dv of magnesium.
i was going to pick up some coq10 at the grocery store yesterday, but that stuff is SO expensive! i had no idea... their own brand was like $20 for a month's supply
im not too keen on the proprietary blend in this stuff i bought, but they had a lot of different types and the lady said this was the most popular, and ive been reading really good reviews for it online. i mean, its a 1.75g blend with hawthorn berry as the top ingredient, which is mostly what i wanted anyway (i saw modest success with hawthorn berry in the past). plus its got 750% dv of magnesium.
i was going to pick up some coq10 at the grocery store yesterday, but that stuff is SO expensive! i had no idea... their own brand was like $20 for a month's supply
bill86
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on a side note - im mad as hell about having to cancel/postpone my androhard cycle. ive never taken a ph before, so i was excited to try it, but i dont wanna risk it. at least not right now, maybe another time if my bp comes down.
let us know what kind of reading you get, as ive heard andro series has a mild effect on bp, but still some effect nonetheless
let us know what kind of reading you get, as ive heard andro series has a mild effect on bp, but still some effect nonetheless
WARBIRDWS6
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oh yeah, I have to take a beta blocker......and I don't "need" the BP med, but I take it since the doc wants me too. the coreg makes me lethargic, but I can handle it no problem. I'm used to it by now, I take enough for a 250 lb plus guy my doc says....but I tolerate it so he says its fine, just strange that someone my size requires that much. He was saying it might be a thyroid problem last I saw him, but I never got any bloodwork done....probably next time I see him.
WARBIRDWS6
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yeah I know, I wasn't taking it for a while since it was expensive lol. But your health is worth it, since you could get complications if you don't take it. I'm always good with taking my scripts.....but unless its for bodybuilding I tend to be lazy with the health supps
WARBIRDWS6
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you should do like I did, start with the low dose.....monitor yourself....bump it up the next week or two, and see what happens there....find what dosage works best for you without any sides (or minimal sides). best way to do it. better than not being able to take anything at all. There will always be supps you just can't take....then you know from experience, and you put them on the list of stuff you can't use. There should be enough good stuff that is well tolerated....
WARBIRDWS6
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No my doc was thinking my thyroid was causing a rapid heart rate since before it was due to an enlarged heart. The heart shrunk down to almost normal size (still too large though).....but the heart rate is still an issue and it shouldn't be. Well should be slightly elevated but not as much as it is elevated. Moving around doing normal daily stuff i run high 90's heart rate or 100. He was looking for other causes. I guess thyroid was his best guess. Would be nice if the dumbfoq ran some tests but he hasn't . I'll have to push the issue next visit
WARBIRDWS6
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Oh btw for bill.....my bp was almost the same 10 days into the ah.....first # was similar but the second # was 2-3 clicks into high. So high-mid normal and high. I'll prob take one more bp pill while on the stuff, and i bet it goes mid to high normal on both. Im taking other stuff too though mind you. Erase and daa . And keep in mind i run a little high normally anyways......
WARBIRDWS6
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yeah he is right man....give the natural route a shot first.....you are messing with all these supps that may increase BP, so better to use natural sups for a few months to see if it works at helping with BP, as opposed to jumping on a script. Make sure you don't "not buy this or that" due to cost, you have to just suck it up and buy the complete array of cardio health supps (yes expensive ass COq10 as well lol).... You are probably just stressing it and you're really not in that bad of a way at all......you'll be fine, just ride it out for a while and take your cardio supps while you monitor yourself.
WARBIRDWS6
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My arm is similar to yours, the normal cuff doesn't cut it....and the big cuff is way too big LOL! so they use the big one and just wrap it around best they can and it barely works. I'm a tweener. they need a "middle cuff"..........
bill86
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yeah, i mean, i only drank once when writing down my daily numbers, and ive been off all workout supps for over a week. my doctor is the one that said ive gotta get on them tomorrow if it doesnt come down (it was 140/85 last week when i was there, he said if its still that high, ive gotta get on something).
ive heard mixed things about a small cuff and its readings, but my mom is overweight and she said hers is higher when using a smaller cuff, but mine read about the same as it did at the doctors office that same day, so im assuming its pretty close to accurate.
on day 2 of the blood pressure factors stuff, just started garlic today, on fish oil as always, and gonna order some olive leaf extract and coq10 next week. ill take the advice and just watch it over the next month before starting a prescription, im just a hypochondriac, so when the doctor tells me my BP is high and i need to be on medicine, i automatically assume im walking around about to have a stroke or heart attack or something, haha.
ive heard mixed things about a small cuff and its readings, but my mom is overweight and she said hers is higher when using a smaller cuff, but mine read about the same as it did at the doctors office that same day, so im assuming its pretty close to accurate.
on day 2 of the blood pressure factors stuff, just started garlic today, on fish oil as always, and gonna order some olive leaf extract and coq10 next week. ill take the advice and just watch it over the next month before starting a prescription, im just a hypochondriac, so when the doctor tells me my BP is high and i need to be on medicine, i automatically assume im walking around about to have a stroke or heart attack or something, haha.
horizons
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So I have been on anabeta elite/erase pro for about 3 weeks or less (the last 7 or so days I cut the erase pro out due to libido and replaced it with triazole) and I have had perfect BP all my life and got my BP tested and it was extremely high (only got tested once though).
I have read reports of anabeta causing BP to elevate and I was getting all the sides since starting actually (hot flushes, lethargic, head aches, little bit dizzy) so I've stopped it completely (and triazole and stims) and will see how I go. I really hope it's just the stack I'm on because I have never ever had even remotely high blood pressure so this is kind of strange. Has anyone else experienced this or is just rare.
Sometimes even though a supplement is deemed "natural" it can still have very serious health risks. Not worth it IMO
I have read reports of anabeta causing BP to elevate and I was getting all the sides since starting actually (hot flushes, lethargic, head aches, little bit dizzy) so I've stopped it completely (and triazole and stims) and will see how I go. I really hope it's just the stack I'm on because I have never ever had even remotely high blood pressure so this is kind of strange. Has anyone else experienced this or is just rare.
Sometimes even though a supplement is deemed "natural" it can still have very serious health risks. Not worth it IMO
horizons
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We are all differently wired. It definitely affected me.
Stopped anabeta stack and boom, blood pressure went down to safe levels in not even 24 hours