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IGF2/ANABETA/FREETEST/LITUP BULK STACK LOG!!

^^ @ nuclear launch, welcome bro! I'd agree with ya man the thing is natural products are more expensive (unfortunately.) cause 1 set of all these bottles is priced very well, but seeing as with ANY natural product from ANY company, for the best results you'd go for 2 bottles, (not that its necessary, but still). That is really the only downside to this stack so far was the $$, because I'd say the effects are becoming more apparent into this 3rd week, and I'm loving it. :smoker:

So before I left for the gym I was SO damn tired. I can attribute this to the fact that I have been sleeping in till 10am this whole week (didnt have class) and I had to get up for class at 8am.. so I was a little tired this afternoon. Managed to get up, shake it off and get into the gym. Although I was tired starting off, once I got into the gym, I had a damn good workout.. I really can't seem to have a bad workout on this stack.
Although litup isnt my favorite flavor, its one of my favorite pre workouts. I get so focused, and motivated. No jitters , no crash. PERFECT.
and in regards to the previous sentence, Im not drinking a prew/o for a flavor, i'm drinking it to TRAIN thats it.
so todays shoulder workout:
Seated db rear delts elbows out palms back (try this im not kidding. if you're doing them with your palms faced in you're only cheating yourself).. i've switched to this version of the movement and over the past month my rear delts have gotten more round than they have ever been. (not kidding) so anyways 30lbsx 15,15,15,15 (45s rest)
seated db press
60x10,10,10,9,7-> last set run over to seated military bb and press it 20 times.. nice pump there. (1m rest)
low cable pulleys (grabbing onto the cable rack and leaning out at between 60 and 45 degrees from the floor) 30lbx20... 20lb x 25,30.. 60lbx 10 bottom half reps dropset to 20lbx20 reps.. (45s max rest)
low pulley cable wide grip upright rows 100lb x 15,15,11 last set drop to 70lbx12... supersetted w/ high pulley rope pulls 70lb x 15,12,15
^^I think i prefer barbell upright rows, but the gym was so f'ing crowded at 4pm tonight there was NO way i could be running from the freeweights to the cables and back, so i had to improvise..
finished with some standing dumbell shrugs.. this movement didnt feel right today, it seemed to be tweaking my front delt (pulling it forward) so i focused on keeping my shoulders back and went light (no sense in hurtin myself) 70lbs x 30.. 80lbx 30,30,25.. dropset to 50lbx25 (45s rest) then some
then some neck extensions w/ a 5lb plate 30,20,20 (30sec rest)

Notes: although i wasnt my strongest today (esp on the seated db press) I had an excellent workout, and my delts had a ridiculous pump, especially from that last set of presses and moving into those laterals.
Also, i was REALLY full in the gym today, everything was nice and round and swoll. I was even DRY and also suuuuuuuper vascular in my arms+ forearms.
likin the stack, its starting to take more effect now i feel like.. really excited for that second round of bottles.. Who knows I might be able to make 185lbs by the end :head:
I mean thats only 6.5 more lbs away.. that aint shiiiiiiiiiiitt. But really though if i could reach 185 lean, that would be sick.

also i was suprised at how lean i was for 177.5 lb this morning.. upperbody was really sharp.

edit: forgot to note that i didnt sleep that good last night, but i think that was cause i stayed up late the night before this one.. school breaks always throw me off.
 
Good work bro looking great as far as workouts go!! Still following and getting more anxious to start mine!
 
they are expensive. i know it sucks man. if you dont have the money, i would see if people are selling some. i occasionally sell products from time to time at a cheap price, u can always PM me to see if i have anything.
 
@ r1balla ya man they are, but i wouldn't have bought the second round of bottles if i didnt have the $$. Like I said man I'm seeing good results (bigger, and leaner at heavier weights) good nutrition partitioning!!
Well if you ever got igf-2 for cheap let me know i would always buy it again, and i would easily buy a bottle for my brother (who has sleep issues sometimes), but its not like you'd sell your igf2 hahahahaa ;)

went in and hit arms today, i'll edit this post later to update the workout.. Got a SICK pump even for how long my rests were.. (slightly longer than normal cause i was supersetting tri movements with bi movements)

So I started my arm workout with closegrip flat bench press supersetted with standing bb curls.
I used to LOVE cg bp, but it tore up my shoulders, so i haven't done them in a few months. Today i did them to the bottom of my chest with about a 1inch block so i wouldnt go too deep. everything felt good though, i can tell i'm going to bump up the weight quick on this exercise once i get back in its groove.
i pyramided these two exercises
CGBP: barx40.. 95x20.. 145x15.. 165x12.. 175x10.. 185x6.. 145x12
supersetted with
BB curls 45lbx30,20.. 65x15.. 85x12.. 95x9,8.. 65x15
rested probably 20-30 seconds max between supersets, moving directly from exercise to exercise.
standing alternating DB hammer curl:
40x10,10,10,10
superset with
lying straight bb skullcrushers
70lbx 14,14,14,12
again 15-20sec inbetween supersets
seated alternating DB curls 25x12,10,12 dropset 15x10
superset with seated db french press
60x11,9,10 drop to 35x12
no rest here.
then i did some forearm work light high rep stuff

like i said i got a good pump especially for my lengthy rests before repeating the same exercises
 
hello friedel thanks for joining!
I'd say maybe i'm giving appnutt some love, but really the stack is givin me love! enjoyin it and very excited for the second bottles as im on the beginning of week three
 
^ welcome nergy.

news today: did 25 minutes of low and slow cardio lvl 7 elliptical ~130 hr and some stretching and some foam roller time to loosen me up for tomorrows squat session
my mom just got a new camera.. too bad i didnt have this two weeks ago =(
 
NuclearLaunch, if your every interested in AppNut stacks, PM me and maybe we can workout a deal if you log it on here
 
^^ R1balla I didn't test it before I started, but I can tell I'm def lean for how big / heavy i'm getting...
my buddy has one of those ****ty electronic ones that i could use but i dont see myself paying for a caliber.
 
I went in and trained legs today, almost didnt, had a damn good workout..
i have to say though- my allergies are tearin me up and making me miserable... not seriously but it sucks.. itchy nose dry eyes.. sneezing non stop..
but i ordered my stuff, and for some reason my bottles from appnut are not here yet, but i already got my anabeta from amazon.. last time they were switched by a day or two.. i dont think it had the wrong address or anything...

edit:: heres the workout
lying curls 60x25..90x20.. 120x12,12,12->90x20 partials (45s-1m)
1 set leg extensions 60lb 25 reps
bb squat 135x15.. 225x8.. 275x10,10,10 (1m rest)
haxsquat (i'm going to start abbreviating plates per side as PPS) 1PPSx10. 2pps+25lb/s x 10,10,10,10->dropset 1ppsx15rep each set of haxsquat was suppersetted with an extreme quad stretch for 20 seconds.. 1m rest.
leg extensions 120lbx15,15,20 (30s)
glute ham raise (My FAVORITE) bodyweight x 10,10,12,15 (the first set i had about a 1-2inch board underneath the end of the GHR).. 1m rest
seated hamstrings 195x15,15,13 (30sec rest)
 
so.. I can DEFINITELY tell I am leaning out HARD for all the BULL**** i have been eating. Its rediculous.. SERIOUSLY.
I went in and pumped chest,tris, and a lil reardelt work. I had SUCH A RIIIIIDICULOUS pump at the gym, it lasted about 45~ minutes after (much longer than any pump ive ever had).. It almost kinda HURT, but it felt so damn good...
Gotta say, Loving this stack, (a big thanks to r1balla for the help w/ choosing it) now that i'm halfway thru the 2nd week the effects are becoming much more apparent ie, fullness, dryness, and leaning effect. ive been having great sleeps and great workouts since the first week... But the pumps this week have been getting insane.. cant wait for week three.
workout today
leaning over seated db rear delts 15lbx20,15... 30lbx15,15,15,14->dropset to 15lbx15 (45sec max)
DB INCLINE 30x30.. 50x11.. 70x10.. 75x10,9,9->35x15 (1m)
DB CG INCLINE press. (i hold the dumbell with two hands fingeroverlapping and bring it in a semicircular arc from lower chest to above my head) 60lbx15,15,15->40lbx15 (45s-1m)
isloateral decline machine 1plate/sidex15.. 2px20,15,16 supersetted with 20second band stretches and about a 30sec rest after
dec cg bb press 135x15.. 185x6,10,12->135x15 (45s rest) the first set i only did 6 reps cause my buddy didnt lift the bar all the way over, so i had to use my shoulders to bring it from over my chin to over my lower chest, which kinda strained the delts so the set didnt feel as good as the last two..
upright dips body x 15,16,16,14 (30s)
chest fly machine 7x10 10seconds rest 110lb last set i did a 50second band stretch after..
tricep rope pressdown 80x30.. 110x15... 130x8.. 90x10->70x12->50x12 (20-30 seconds between sets, no rest between dropsets)

again. GREAT workout. feeling strong, pressing heavier, feeling GOOD. i cannot express how retarted the pump was that i got...
 
Just caught up on all the info. I was gonna hold up on my IGF2... but F*ck it - you got me giddy.

Great to hear this is going well for you - a solid stack without question and paying off to seem. bean5er, congrats on all your progress too from 20->9%!
 
yeah i did 3 sets of squats and 3 sets of front squats today along with back and biceps. gonna be sore tomorrow!! anyways, im always here to help. ive personally ran a very similar stack to this, everything except the addition to Free Test, and i loved it. the anabeta pumps are insane. i took anabeta with creatine nitrate and the pumps were literally crazy. even my abs would get a pump when i trained them lol. glad you like it and any time in the future u want some input on any product just gimme a holla. i give 100% honest feedback, no matter what company (except muscle tech lol)
 
^ LOL last few words
 
Gotta say ive been feeling good and i can definitely notice an increase in muscle hardness and fullness as well as vascularity. My intensity in the gym (although is usually high) is high,

Saturday i trained back with some bis.
started w/ deadlifts, feet shouldwidth apart toes pretty close to straight forward. 135x12,15.. 225x12.. 275x10.. 315x8,6,5.. About 1min 10sec rest.. 130 max
BB rows off the floor (pendlay) these arnt upright rows. my back is parallel with the floor. 135x12.. 185x9.. 225x6,6,6->dropset to 135x10 about 1m rest maybe 1:10.. my ipod died so i couldnt time my sets as well.
pullups x10,9,8,11,10 for the 4th set my brother assisted me in the last 1-2 reps for sure. inbetween each set did a hard 20second lat stretch.. 1m rest.
underhand close grip pullup aka chinups.. bodyweightx10,9,12,8
alternating dumbell hammer curl 35x15,15.. 45x12->dropset to 25x20 (45sec rest)
high pulley cable curls 40x25..50x20->dropset to 30x15 supersetted with pulldown machine lat pullovers 50x20.. 20->dropset to 40x15.. then another straight set of 40x20 about 30sec rest there..
gotta say i had an excellent mind muscle connection with the deads and my upper/middle back.. was nice. i want to start a back day w/ pullups for that LAT pump but then again i prefer starting w/ heavy deads for that myofibrillar growth then the higher rep / volume work for the sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.. also i feel like i need to integrate CHEST SUPPORTED tbar rows back into this but the tbar at my gym SUCKS. TERRIBLY. Also.. i miss my close grip cable rows supersetted with pullups that is a sick lat pump.. maybe i'll do that next week for a higher volume workout, and finish w/ high rep deads.. (sets of 20 deads to finish off back, anyone?)

anyways guys feelin good and motivated and idk if i have mentioned this but i have not been getting sore at all..
honestly, maybe one day but its gone almost by the end of the day usually and always 90% gone by day 2.
 
So monday I hit legs later in the day.. was pretty damn tired from having class all day but none the less the workout went well..
lying hams:60x22.. 90x12.. 120x12,12,12->dropset to 75x 15 full reps (45s)
leg press (feet at top 4-5inch apart toes straight). I supersetted these with calf presses ON the leg press. sledx50.. 2ppsx15 calvex15.. 5ppsx12 calvesx15...6ppsx15,14,15,15 calvesx12,11,12,12..
Then i did 4 sets of wide stance on the leg press toes out feet towards the outside of the lp.. 6px12,12,15,12->dropset to 4ppsx12.. calves 6ppsx12,15,14........... so i would go immediately into calve presses (maybe 10sec rest) then rest about 45-1m after the calves to start another set of lp.
db bulgarian split squat 30lb dbs x 14,14,12 each side.. about 45s rest.
reverse hypers 100lbs x10,10,10,10 <- this exercise is a bitch
seated hammies 180x20,20,20 (30s rest)
seated calves 1plate+25 x 20,20,20,25,30
reverse calves on the lying hamstring 15lbx22,20,20 (20s rest)

the reason i do lp this time is cause my low back is tired from deads 2 days prior. i like to hit legs 2x week but i dont squat 2x just cause i dont like loadin my spine up 3times a week, twice is enough (deads/squats).. So today (tuesday) i hit delts. was strong felt good. got a great pump.. Also i gotta say on this stack ive noticed DOMS has GREATLY decreased... i almost want to try hitting my whole body 2x aweek, but the problem i see with that is that i will be slacking on delts and arms to be hitting legs back and chest.. any thoughts guys?

but anyways todays workout involved a nice long prehab session sipping my 2scoops litup.. then i started w/ seated db rear delts.. w/ that focus on palms back and elbows out (try it, i PROMISE your reardelts will get a NASTY pump) 20lb dbs x15.. 25x20.. 35x15,15,15->dropset 15x15 slow controlled reps. (45s rest)
seated db press: 30x15..60x10..65x10..70x10,8.. [55x12->> 30x9. rest 20seconds and do 20lbx20..] that thing in brackets was my last set. got a SICK pump from it.. but the actual rests between the sets was kept to 1minute.
my favorite for side delts.. leaning low pulley laterals 30lbx30,30 (BUUUURRRNNNNN.) [50x10->40x10->30x10->20x12]<- this was my dropset and there was no rest just time to move the pins. other sets, 45s rest
WG barbell uprights 65x18,18,18 superset w/ high pulley rope rows 80x17,18,18. 45s max..
all in all, a good workout, tomorrow im hittin arms.
then a well deserved rest day.. This studying for finals is honestly making me so damn tired...
 
Wow - rare to find a gym with a machine for reverse hypers. I find higher rep workouts do better with hammies as well. It just feels sooooo right. Especially if you did some taxing work the posterior chain earlier that week you gotta let that hitch ease up. Im curious about that rear delt move.

Props for hitting full menu workouts like this during finals season. And having late soreness while I study is rather uninviting, its just uncomfortable.
 
Oh yeah we have a glute ham raise too in the back its REALLY nice i can kill my lower back / ham / glutes with those two..
throw in a little lying curls, BOOM!!!
But ya man i took today off had class all day + a lab final, till 8pm didnt feel like hitting the gym that late..
but i noticed my doms is reduced greatly..
Maybe i just need to up the weight on all my quad movements (might as well man up)
I can tell theyre growing. Tonight, I could see seperation b/w the three heads of my quads.. Obviously it was specific lighting, and it wasnt near contest ready, but that means im still pretty lean :).. no cuts on them from the sides, besides when i press up and down on my foot / against my leg i see one slight line.. anyways, i can say this stack has given an increased energy/ confidence, and im definitely more horny- balls slightly swoll. sleeping better, recovering better, hungry/thirsty alot but yeah getting sick pumps and increasing strength every week..
I can say for a FACT that it is having a leaning effect on me. or at least an excellent nutrient partitioning effect. Because for how i have been eating (although clean trust me im eatin cheats left and right) i should be fatter than what i am right now.
anyways, i went to class today and my professor made some food for the whole class.. Pot roast, roasted potatoes and roasted asparagus w/ cheese, and home made bread.. Popped an anabeta after (i know im anabolic)
edit: fullness and leanness have become more pronounced between the 2nd and third week. definite increase in acne too.
 
went in and trained arms yesterday, and hit legs today (squat day is my favorite day)..anyways both were good workouts, and i'll post them later. I just wanted to get on and say, before i took a shower, i looked at myself and was like "holy ****" I was REALLY full and dry, abs sharp and vascularity is high.. Might had to do with me taking Anabeta with my postw/o shake (50g dextrose 2scoop whey) but i was really surprised for how full i was, especially after legday..
 
Its weird how acne is somewhat a desirable side effect.
I always gauge my leanness by the separation in my quads. It's the area of my body that stays the driest year round so it a subjective BF monitor for me.
I have that glute raise machine too, hit it yesterday. Beats the hell out of doing a wide stance stairmaster for glutes.
 
Nahh definitely not desirable at all. i was just noting a side effect.
I hit back today, started w/ pullups and cable rows instead of deads and bb pendlay rows.. Mind muscle connection like WOAH. pump like WOAH. Lats like WOAH!!
=) being lazy, much studying to do for finals I'll update those last three workouts sometime later.
 
I guess desirable was poor word choice. But it is clear evidence that the sebaceous glands responding to higher levels of androgens.
 
Yeah i kinda figured thats what you meant.. Still busy studying, just taking a quick break.. just wanted to note, i pounded water yesterday and i noted EXTREME fullness and tightness in my arms / chest / lats.. I swear ive been drinking over a gallon a day but i think i should bump it up a little more..
 
Since starting IGF its become necessity for TONS of water. Especially before bed yet I havent been interrupted to go pee midsleep
 
Hey guys sorry I havent been on in a while.. been busy with school finals and all that. still been trainin and stickin to the diet.. But i realize i have been weighing in every monday. Last monday i was 181 (same weight as week before).. This monday I weighed 184. I can say i probably didnt gain a lb the prior week because i had been so busy w/ schools that i was barely getting my meals down, putting eating off to study ie eating every 3 hrs instead of 2- 2.5 when i wasnt super busy studying..
As far as workouts go i have actually been training with my buddy who does powerlifting, and we have been resting longer inbetween sets of our first big exercise. because of this 2min rest instead of 1min ive been able to put up much bigger weights, which felt great. I plan on updating my workouts (probably tomorrow) i am just real tired right now.
 
about 10lbs so far.. I'm really noticing increases in strength as i am beginning to increase my rest periods.. put up the 95lb dumbells for incline presses today
 
I'm just pretty strong for my size so I Suck at judging strength for other people but if that's good for you then awesome!!!!!
 
95 db's on incline is big weight.
 
Hey guys sorry i h avent updated for a while, actually been across the state at my grandmas for christmas..
Trained tris yesterday and bis today, completely separate. I forgot why I did them separate (better focus extreme pump)..
I'll prob do em solo once every two weeks or so..
So while I was across the state I was still hitting my meals and whatnot but I actually just kinda ate whatever was there, (still hitting my macros) but just enjoying eating different normal foods. I filled out alot from this, maybe even gained a little fat (hopefully mostly water), weighed in at b/w 184-185 on the scale at my grandmas.. But i was looking BIG the last two days in the gym.
Going to either a- take tomorrow off or b- squat, depending on how i feel.. (drove 2.5hours to get back home, which usually tightens up my lowerback pretty bad)..
getting stronger, especially w/ those increased rest periods.. As far as a few numbers (since i slacked hard in updating workouts) I squatted 315 for 6,9,7 for my last leg workout, deadlifted 365x5 last back day, hit 95x9,7 dumbell incline chest day, and 80x9,7 for db military press on delt day.

feeling strong feeling good lovin the stack!!
 
whoa . . . I am LATE! I plan on running a similar stack in spring: IGF-2, AnaBeta, DAA, Erase.

Great feedback from R1balla & Org Shadow along with the updates. Oh, I def plan on running this 8 weeks . . . the ONLY way to run IGF-2!
 
^ ya man I ended up getting a 2nd bottle of each, and going through those.. strength is much higher and im always havin sick workouts, sleep is great off the igf-2 and litup is a good preworkout as well.

took an off day today had too much to do around the house before i had to pick my dad up from the airport at 4pm..
gonna get back to my clean eating try to shed a little of this water so im not looking so damn bloated!!

squat day tomorrow.. yeahhhhhhhh buddyyyyyyyyy
 
Trained legs yesterday.. For some reason i was REALLY tired, probably just the holidays and driving back and forth across the state, ****ty sleep, ****ty food, just a combo of it all.. It went well though..
lying ham: 60x20,90x15, 105x15,15,15 supersetted with 12 bottomhalf reps... about 45s-1m rest
1 set extensions for warmup 60x15
squat barx20. 135x10, 225x10, 275x10, 315x8,8. On the second set here i noticed what i think is my sartorious was SUPER tight. So i decided not to do a 4th set.. (i was disappointed in myself but when i felt how tight it was the next day i realized i made the right choice).. 2min rest
haxsquat 1px8, 2px10, 3px10,10,10 last set i dropsetted down to 2px 10 then down to 1px10.. supersetted every set w/ intense quad stretches about 25sec.. rest about 1-1.5min
extensions 105x20,20,20.. 30-45 sec rest.
reverse hyper 50lbx10, 100lbx10,10,10.. on the third set i really noticed my hips were out (probably linked to the tight sartorious) so i didnt do a 4th set.. again, disappointed in myself at the time, but the next day, realizing i had made the better choice.. 1-2min rest
seated hams 195x15,15,15 dropset to 135x15.. supersetted each set w/ 20second ham stretches, and rested about 30sec inbetween sets.. overall id give the workout a b, due to the fact that i wanted to do one more heavy set of squats and reverse hypers, but my hips were ****ed up, so i didnt.

today i hit chest and tris, really felt great.. started w/ reardelts on the reverse butterfly 50x20, 80x15, 110x14,15,14,12.. [45-1m rest.]
incline dumbell press.. 40x18, 60x10, 80x10, 100x5,6, 80x9->dropset to 50x11.. rest 1-1.5 min
closegrip flat bb press w/ 2boards 145x10, 165x10,11,10->dropset to 95x20
bentforward dips w/ 20lb chain around neck x15,15,12,11->dropset to bodyx7.. rest about 1m
Low pulley cable flys 40x15,50x10,40x12,30x15 ss db closegrip incline press 60x15,12,12,12 1m rest
then i did some tris high pulley cable pushdown on my knees with hard 1sec flex at contraction 40x12,15,10 dropset to 30x10 drop to 20x10... 30sec rest
 
So saturday i hit back and bis.. didnt do deads cause my lowerback was tight. focused more on upperback / lats.
Pullups bwx15,15,13,14,7->superset w/ pulldown 110x11 (1.5min rest)
Seated U handle cable row 160x10,10,10,10->dropset 140x12 (1-1.5min)
wide grip overhand TBAR row 2platesx 12.. 2p+25lb x12,11,9->drop 1p+25lb x 11
Overhand grip isolow row (hammerstrength machine). focusing on the LOWER end of my lats, 1second HARD contractions.. 2plates/side x8.. 1p+25x10,10,12->dropset to 1px10... supersetted with hammer strength iso HIGH row.. again, HARD contraction focusing on the lats.. 1p+25x12,10,10,10->drop 1px16 .. about 1min rest
then i finished with our lovely lat pullover machine 1p+25/side x 18,15,15,15 supersetted with 40second hard lat stretch for the last 3 sets..
then i finished with some alternating DB curls, standing, hard contraction at top.. 20x20, 25x12,12.. 35x7->drop 30x5->drop25x8 ->drop 15x12

Took sunday off. Monday i hit legs, was aleg pressday, and it went really well.
lying hams 120x13,13,14 (1min)
feet close legpress 7plates/side x15,15,15,15
feet wider toes out legpress 7platex 12,12,14,14->drop5px12->drop3px20.. about 1.5min rest between sets, no rest for dropset.
one set of bulgarian split squats 40 reps per side, about 1-2 second descents. 1min b/w legs
abductor 110x30,30 ss adductor 100x20,15 [30sec-1min]
glute ham raise bwx15,12,15,15 (1min)
sldl.. bar+25x20.. +50x12,12,10.. (1min)
standing calf hard flex @ top 210x15, 300x15, 345x12,12,15,15 (1min)
seated calf 1sec flex @ top 1p+25x15. 2p+25 x10,12,12->drop 1p+25x20... 1p+25x25 (1min)
reverse calf raise on lying ham 15lbx25,20,17 (30sec)

leg workout went great felt good and motivated pretty awesome pump, Honestly i can say i've been feelin like i can do more reps every time i enter the gym..
 
Looking good bro, how's the stack itself still treating you? Notice anything more/less? How's the diet. I'm stoked to start mine next Monday
 
I jumped back on Lit Up after taking a looong break from pre's... the BA tingles were nuts!

Im interested to see how this goes on for the long haul now that you've picked up a 2nd round. Clearly this has had a huge impact on you and the numbers Im seeing tell that story.
 
i havent ever noticed tingles from Lit up. I take pre max and beta alanine about an hour before i go lift. then 15 before i train, i take Lit Up.
 
@baller or shadow, what is a good DAA supp that isn't a pre-w/o. I'm taking a break from lit for a while. Thanks guys
 
I would suggest bulk powder or caps - whichever works to your situation. SNS makes a great DAA bulk.

PrimaForce and AISports also have bulk DAA.
 
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