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Nullifidian- if you read the paragraph before the one quoted by flexster you would have realized that the author was in fact referring to the long r-3 version of IGF-1.

"For the rest of this article when I say IGF I am now referring to Long R3 IGF-1 for simplicity sake."

So........what is your defense now, or anyone elses' for that matter?
 
EDNhoss12 said:
Nullifidian- if you read the paragraph before the one quoted by flexster you would have realized that the author was in fact referring to the long r-3 version of IGF-1.

"For the rest of this article when I say IGF I am now referring to Long R3 IGF-1 for simplicity sake."

So........what is your defense now, or anyone elses' for that matter?
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Easy there tiger.

Defense to what???
 
sorry, just getting a little frustrated w/ this.

seems everybody is conflicted w/ this. I've read numerous times that BA can degrade the IGF, and everyone that opposes this idea cannot back it up w/ something. Anyway, I'm just eager to use this stuff w/ my cycle and just want to learn more about the product I'll be purchasing. Thankx crowler.
 
If you're purchasing your IGF from MR then you don't have to worry cuz they are now using AA instead of BA.

There have been alot of bros on this board and on others that purchased IGF with BA and got good results so why are you sweating this??
 
How do yall get 40 mcg's out if it is 1mg/ml....that is a very small amount. And is it necessary to fill the entire slin pin up with bw or could you fill it half way?
 
please help me (lr3igf-1)

Hi bobo, I notice you are very knowledgeable regarding lr3igf-1 and I’m new to all this and I like to try it out
I know were to get it, but I don't have the slightest idea how to inject it or were, can you illustrated me?
What do you recommend for a beginner? I think I’m a good candidate for testing the lr3igf-1 Thanks...
 
Inject it w/an insulin pin. Pull your desired amount fill the rest of the pin w/bacteriostatic water and inject into the desired muscle. Usually you want to inject postworkout into the muscle that was just worked. 40-50 mcg's ed is a good place for anyone to start.

P.S. There is a **** ton of info on this topic in this forum. Try reading through the threads as i'm sure they'll answer any questions you may have.
 
jaxsys said:
Hi bobo, I notice you are very knowledgeable regarding lr3igf-1 and I’m new to all this and I like to try it out
I know were to get it, but I don't have the slightest idea how to inject it or were, can you illustrated me?
What do you recommend for a beginner? I think I’m a good candidate for testing the lr3igf-1 Thanks...
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Bro, if you would have just used the search button, you would have found a hundred posts saying the exact same thing as what Sticks just said and you wouldn't have looked like such a noob.
 
Thanks for the reply sticks; and positive thinking, unlike others...

So in a full body workout, I take 40 mcg and inject every muscle with the same pin?

And if so, how do I determine the amount that each muscle gets?



Thanks.
 
jaxsys said:
So in a full body workout, I take 40 mcg and inject every muscle with the same pin?

And if so, how do I determine the amount that each muscle gets?



Thanks.
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No. If you're working bis, divide up the shots evenly, 20 mcg each, using two syringes/needles. I would not recommend pinning more than one set of muscles bilaterally in connection with each workout. But if you're going that route, just divide each shot evenly. YOu might also consider bumping the dosage a bit. I actually like doing mine pre-workout because of the tremendous pump I get when I'm at the gym, but the consensus on this board is that pinning after a workout is most effective for growth.
 
einstein1905 said:
I know of a few people that have, and everyone seems to say the same thing: the effects drastically taper as you go beyond 4-5 weeks. I still swear by receptor downregulation rather than any of the other theories. Also, doses above 80mcg or so don't seem to be any better than doses below 80mcg/day. So, more is better doesn't really apply here either. Since IGF-1 upregulates insulin receptors and insulin upregulates IGF-1 receptors (both initially, and probably the opposite occurs over time), and each has some affinity for the other's receptors, to some degree, it probably wouldn't be beneficial to alternate IGF-1-insulin cycles, as that would seem to lower sensitivity to each. While using them in conjunction may lead to quicker desensitization, it may still be worth it due to the great potential synergistic efects.
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I wonder if the use of advandia for receptor "sensitivity" is a possibility for longer cycle results.
 
I have been running 50mcg ed for a week now, I got some extra AA from MR and added 1 extra cc to the vial.. I have been running .5iu(100mcg total) bi laterally after workouts. I honestly haven't noticed anything posative, or negative at this point..
 
Dosing

I realize that Bobo states that for a first time user you should only use 40-50mcg a day. Why is this. I have read on other boards and spoken to people who have used IGF-1 and researched it extensively and they seem to believe the best dosing protocal to be 1 mcg/kg bodyweight.

COuld someone please explain to me why Bobo chooses this dosing and what are IGF-1 sides from high dosing?
 
i just started my igf cycle i am doing 40 mcg a day i added 4 extra cc of AA so my shots are 200 mcg of solution
i am doing sub q shots , but i would like to pin into my biceps when i workout them any specifics how to do biceps injections
 
preston25 said:
igf-1 trustworthy sources? info appreciated.
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First off, you're lucky sponsors here sell IGF-1, or your ass would be banned faster than you can say "NO SOURCE POSTING".

Second, stop being a lazy POS and take a look at the board sponsors.
 
I'm glad you guys werent this harsh with me!! Much love brothers!

PS: I got all my needles and needed materials in today to reconsitute the IGF. Wish my luck on having enough AA. I think I will be ok, one of the AA bottles is filled almost full, while the other is half and the last is nearly nothing. It might even out.

I'll let you know in my post what happns. If all goes well, I start my cycle monday after a schedule out all my supp intake and workout regemin.

Thanks guys (you know who you are) who helped my stubborn, deaf, dumb, and retarded ass in my post.

Sprt
 
preston25 said:
Would GH be better than IGF-1lr3 for strength for an endurance athlete. ?

preston25
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Its my understanding that most users of GH dont see significant results from it with short term use ... it is something you would want to run long term to really get the benifits from hGH. That is just my understanding, though. I dont know much about GH other than that.

IGF would probably be a better alternative depending on your goals. Which are what again? Just curious?

I've only been pinning IGF for a couple days now, not even two weeks, and I'm down in BF (noticably) and up 6lbs. I didnt expect to see results like this at all given the fact that IGF is non-hormonal (not AAS so to speak). I'm also only using 40mcg ED with minimal gym time (I've been sick).

Just my .2 cents,
Sprt
 
Hey bro,
Im a cyclist. Yeah ive gained 4 lbs in the first week and i dont lift on a weekly bases. This stuff is crazy. I have also lost all my veins in my legs. I thought i wouls get more cut. Whats up with that?

Best
Dean
 
preston25 said:
Hey bro,
Im a cyclist. Yeah ive gained 4 lbs in the first week and i dont lift on a weekly bases. This stuff is crazy. I have also lost all my veins in my legs. I thought i wouls get more cut. Whats up with that?

Best
Dean
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Weird ... I remember you saying something about this in another post. I personally have no idea why you lost vascularity. Take another look at your diet. You mentioned AAS, have you jumped into a cycle and just havent said anything about it?

Someone else will have to answer that one for you buddy. Best of luck to you.

Sprt
 
Hello, just finished first cycle of igf-1lr3. Good results all around. Had a liitle scare with some abdominal pain, turned to be a strained muscle. I do receive blood tests in my sport and igf-1 is on the banned list. Is igf-1lr3 detectible?

preston25
 
preston25 said:
Hello, just finished first cycle of igf-1lr3. Good results all around. Had a liitle scare with some abdominal pain, turned to be a strained muscle. I do receive blood tests in my sport and igf-1 is on the banned list. Is igf-1lr3 detectible?

preston25
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If you get blood tests, then igf will show up Im pretty sure. It wont show up on standardized drug tests however.
 
preston25 said:
the pumps the same with igf and igf-1lr3?
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The IGF that everyone refers to is the long chained version (lr3). Pure IGF is ridiculously expensive, and most people dont have access to it.
 
Simple question here, sorry if its already been answered elsewhere, theres a LOT of threads on IGF1-LR3

How do you measure 20mcg out it a solution is diluted to 1000mcg/ml or even 500mcg/ml? I've never handled a slin pin before, does it measure in 1000ths of a ml, or 100ths of a ml?
 
Drachus said:
Simple question here, sorry if its already been answered elsewhere, theres a LOT of threads on IGF1-LR3

How do you measure 20mcg out it a solution is diluted to 1000mcg/ml or even 500mcg/ml? I've never handled a slin pin before, does it measure in 1000ths of a ml, or 100ths of a ml?
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Using a U100 slin pin...
At 1000mcg/ml, 20mcg = .02ml
At 500mcg/ml, 20mcg = .04ml

Personally, i would adjust the concentration to something like 200mcg/ml or lower to make dosing easier to administer...
 
sikdogg said:
Using a U100 slin pin...
At 1000mcg/ml, 20mcg = .02m
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So U100 slin pin is measuring in 100ths of a ml. And you just pull to the "2" mark?
for some reason I cant find an upclose picture of a u100 slin pin

thanks dude
 
Well, its funny to back when i was getting started and see how much of a dumbass i was. Its pays to do research, and alot of it. I just finished a very successful cycle of igf-1lr3 40mcg e3d. The results were much better than dosing e.d. I gained about 1 lb a week in lean mass.
 
Drachus said:
So U100 slin pin is measuring in 100ths of a ml. And you just pull to the "2" mark?
for some reason I cant find an upclose picture of a u100 slin pin

thanks dude
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"U100" refers to the insulin concentration that this particular syringe is designed to measure accurately to the unit. It just so happens that they are also generally 1ml syringes. What i've noticed is that most U100 syringes that are 1cc typically mark off the syringe in .02cc increments. So in your case, you just fill to the first tick mark and you have 20mcg. I don't like using these syringes because it's hard to measure out doses exactly. I prefer to use .3cc U100 syringes as i'm able to easily measure out very small doses. I also like the fact that i can get them with 31ga needles... in most cases, i don't feel anything at all when poking.
 
It seems that much of the info at the beginning of this sticky is a bit out of date, just thought that maybe there should be some updates....?

From the reading I've been doing in other threads lately the current protocol for this is about 20mcg E3D, correct or not? Is there more current info that I'm missing?

Has anyone experienced any sides?

Is anyone out there ONLY using IGF-1 (not using it as part of PCT but using it as your cycle)? This would be my situation and I'm curious about the results.
 
Little help needed here. 155lbs 5'10...cardio makes everything leaner...fat drops as well as muscle mass. Ive never done any gear, wanted to stay Totally natural, but Genetics will only take you so far. I want to do a 6 week cycle of IGF1-Lr3, 80mcg day (40mcg AM, PM), 6 days a week. (it was either that or GH, and from what I understand IGF is what provides the size.) Is it like MGF where is site specific injection, or do I use the quads and glutes rotationally? Would one go into the Muscle or into the Fat like GH? Was also thinking about Cytomel low dose as well to burn a bit more fat.????
 
Ripped1 said:
Logan stay away from IGF to start, you are not ready for this my friend
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So then what would you recommend. Im 30 and my body will not change....and I know of too many side effects from gear...not intended for humans.
 
meowmeow said:
Not that it matters, but I concur.
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I need logic here, not just no. :-) Ive been lifting since highshcool...with crap results...every type of workout you can think of....again....what would you recommend.
 
logan22 said:
Little help needed here. 155lbs 5'10...cardio makes everything leaner...fat drops as well as muscle mass. Ive never done any gear, wanted to stay Totally natural, but Genetics will only take you so far. I want to do a 6 week cycle of IGF1-Lr3, 80mcg day (40mcg AM, PM), 6 days a week. (it was either that or GH, and from what I understand IGF is what provides the size.) Is it like MGF where is site specific injection, or do I use the quads and glutes rotationally? Would one go into the Muscle or into the Fat like GH? Was also thinking about Cytomel low dose as well to burn a bit more fat.????
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I dont know what you weighed before you started lifting, or your BF% but I`m going to go out on a short limb here and say that @5"10 and 155 it seems that lack of calories is you biggest issue.

I am 31, I have a pure ectomorphic frame. I graduated high school weighing in a mighty 130lbs @5"11, most women weighed more than me at that height, however before I ever took any juice or hormone type product I got up to about 185 with just basic supplements (creatine, protein powders, vitamins) and lots of food...that was after 4 or 5 years of serious lifting.

Yes you are correct, genetics can only take you so far, but I think you are far from your natural potential.

I`ve known too many people who took prohormones or juice before building up any type of solid foundation...just to put on a few pounds and then basically lose it all.

Simply put if a genetically average person does not posses the knowledge on how to build a solid physique AND keep gains naturally - then without making some major modifications in other areas it is unlikely that he will progress much further by just simply taking some IGF.
 
Bobo said:
Awesome. As Manbeast said post everything you have. The more info we have the better. I always enjoy reading anything relevant to this topic.

I know some people that have done it both ways and like usual you have some that say there is a difference and others that say there isn't. Maybe I'll try IM shots next cycle to see if I notice anything.
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Any updates on the way to take Lr3? IM? subQ? Shooting into muscles worked or rotating quad and glutes? Im think of using 2mgs.....20mcg for a week, 40mcg a week, 60mcg a week then finish out the last bottle at 80mcg. Post workout in the AM. Any thoughts?
 
logan22 said:
Any updates on the way to take Lr3? IM? subQ? Shooting into muscles worked or rotating quad and glutes? Im think of using 2mgs.....20mcg for a week, 40mcg a week, 60mcg a week then finish out the last bottle at 80mcg. Post workout in the AM. Any thoughts?
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Dude, at your size, you need to work on your diet. 155 on 5'10" basically means you have added maybe a max of 10 lbs of lbm in your what, 12 years of lifting. Work on the diet first.
 
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