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Your questions are very very broad man, and really hard to work with, although I do want to help you. Everyone is different, the way one person carb loads v.s another is completely different. The way I am carb loading for my show nov 3 is completely different from the arnold last year.

The hemavol trick should not affect the way you carb load, although I do suggest keeping your salt into low up to the point of doing the trick, and sticking with dry carb sources like potato's cut into french fries, baked. Nothing with water like pasta, rice etc. Keep yourself dry as the GMS and salt will swell your muscles. if you are already wet, you may spill over.

You can do it before pre-judging and night show, I do. What to eat between that time is very specific and selective and again, has nothing to do with the trick, but I would follow the same approach with dry carbs to stay full.

Mike

And also, just a friendly reminder, as with any show or important event, never try a new protocol. Always try it before hand so you can tweak it if necessary.
 
Your questions are very very broad man, and really hard to work with, although I do want to help you. Everyone is different, the way one person carb loads v.s another is completely different. The way I am carb loading for my show nov 3 is completely different from the arnold last year.

The hemavol trick should not affect the way you carb load, although I do suggest keeping your salt into low up to the point of doing the trick, and sticking with dry carb sources like potato's cut into french fries, baked. Nothing with water like pasta, rice etc. Keep yourself dry as the GMS and salt will swell your muscles. if you are already wet, you may spill over.

You can do it before pre-judging and night show, I do. What to eat between that time is very specific and selective and again, has nothing to do with the trick, but I would follow the same approach with dry carbs to stay full.

Mike

And also, just a friendly reminder, as with any show or important event, never try a new protocol. Always try it before hand so you can tweak it if necessary.

thanks guys.
 
And also, just a friendly reminder, as with any show or important event, never try a new protocol. Always try it before hand so you can tweak it if necessary.

Couldn't agree more. I always test new stuff, 2 weeks out.
 
Couldn't agree more. I always test new stuff, 2 weeks out.

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Ill give it a trial run maybe sunday then again next week to see how I can make it work the best for me. Hemoval works great for me and I respond really well to carbs in general so I think thiis will work beautifully
 
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Ill give it a trial run maybe sunday then again next week to see how I can make it work the best for me. Hemoval works great for me and I respond really well to carbs in general so I think thiis will work beautifully

Sounds good, keep us updated!
 
Only tried the protean VMS. It tastes pretty good, but I went over my carb limit for the day when I used it. Now if they had a carb free version, that would be amazing. Other than that the only thing I have purchased from Iforce is their fish oil. Well I did get Intimidate but I traded because I don't think it would be smart to use it with my prescription sleep aid. DAA works great for me anyway and it is much cheaper.
 
I been looking at iforce products and well i have to say whats there deal.

-Iforce Protean 20grmas of Protein per scoop,you kidding me..sounds like a ploy to make you spend more money .While most all other protein powder are 24-27grams per scoop.Its almost $30.00 for a 2lb container.

-hemavol $32.00 for $32.00 and it says take up too two scoops wihcih leaves u paying possibly $16.00 for 32 servings.

-Intimidate $35.00 for 30 pills,yes i know NMDA,but i have used other company DAAs with great success.

-Dexaprine $60.00 for 60 caps,while you are able to take 2 tablets per day

-testobolan which on avg is $35.00 everywhere except here at NP.

-ZMA $19.99 are you kidding me for 90 tabs.

-Also I order the Intimidate triple play stack,where i recieve a bag,Intimidate,ZMA and 1 sample of Hemavol and 2 of maximize
""""""NOW the picture shows 4 samples of hamavol and 3 of Mximize. """While I rrally wanted to give Hema a real look at and just not based off a one time sample.What kid of **** is that.Display a pic with false advertisement.""""
Also charge $35.00 for intimidate but basically throw in ZMA. this says a few things to me1-iforce is stingy 2-they are over priced 3-dont care about there customers and take what they can get.

my point is there are so many great competitors out there with the same products and at way better prices and products just as good if not better.I wont be a dick and post competitors,cause its not cool.


I dont get iforce you would think in a market where supps are huge you would want to be more fair.But they been around for a long while so there doing something rght.

Idk,i wanted to try them but have found great products at way more afforable prices,so if i can load up on stuff with great benefits while saving $5-$10 cheaper per product thats the way to go,its a no brainer.

only posting this cause i was seriously looking at iforce but the more i looked around the more i saw i can get products with just as a good a rep comp and prod wise for way cheaper.
 
Well sucks you feel that way your missing out on some awesome products. If your worried about the price you can usually find sales at NP. Intimidate is no joke 30 bucks for 30 days you wont be dissapointed. Hemoval is awesome I do one scoop with 1/2 to 1 scoop of max intense and its my favorite pre workout combo. 32 servings of hemoval workout days only 4 weeks minimum 1 tub lasts me 2 months. Compete is great I have 5 cans haha and 5 iforce tshirts stocked up. Can you get cheaper products yup sure can but its all about results to me and iForce delivers there.
Not a rep nor have I ever gotten any free or sponsored products by them just a fan
 
Well sucks you feel that way your missing out on some awesome products. If your worried about the price you can usually find sales at NP. Intimidate is no joke 30 bucks for 30 days you wont be dissapointed. Hemoval is awesome I do one scoop with 1/2 to 1 scoop of max intense and its my favorite pre workout combo. 32 servings of hemoval workout days only 4 weeks minimum 1 tub lasts me 2 months. Compete is great I have 5 cans haha and 5 iforce tshirts stocked up. Can you get cheaper products yup sure can but its all about results to me and iForce delivers there.
Not a rep nor have I ever gotten any free or sponsored products by them just a fan
i dont question there quality. but there prices.

SNS daa is great and so is dpol..I have intimidate now,yet to start it.

as for the hemavol,thats good cause i ony train 4-5 days a week.but i dont like a supp that says that,just a way to make it last longer,yet,if cant take craze 5 days a week if i train.Paid $30.00 for it and 1 scoop is awesome and thats like 40 servings.yes i know one is stim and one is non stim. =)

but my point is i can get just as good quality stuff for way better prices. So i dont see why force woulndt be more competitive in that field.would draw way more ppl..ZMA is $20.00 by iforce yet i can get 2 bottles of SNS zma for $23.00


SNS is solid and well zma is zma..whats makes iforces any better,quality.Im sure sns or on or whoever is just as good a quality.plus we as customers will never know as everyone reacts different.
hemavol is great but so is focus xt stim free and thats 1 scoop $20.00 for 30 servngs.
 
i dont question there quality. but there prices.

SNS daa is great and so is dpol..I have intimidate now,yet to start it.

as for the hemavol,thats good cause i ony train 4-5 days a week.but i dont like a supp that says that,just a way to make it last longer,yet,if cant take craze 5 days a week if i train.Paid $30.00 for it and 1 scoop is awesome and thats like 40 servings.yes i know one is stim and one is non stim. =)

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but my point is i can get just as good quality stuff for way better prices. So i dont see why force woulndt be more competitive in that field.would draw way more ppl..ZMA is $20.00 by iforce yet i can get 2 bottles of SNS zma for $23.00


SNS is solid and well zma is zma..whats makes iforces any better,quality.Im sure sns or on or whoever is just as good a quality.plus we as customers will never know as everyone reacts different.
hemavol is great but so is focus xt stim free and thats 1 scoop $20.00 for 30 servngs.

I love focus xt but focus is a nootropic aid hemoval is a pump aid so they arent even close to being similar aside from non stim.
SNS is great I have a ton of their stuff citmal, agmatine, focusxt w/ and w/o caffeine, Phenibut. I would obviously love for any product not just Iforce to be cheaper but I dont think they are too unreasonable. eespecially max intense $20-$25 for 45 servings is great especially when you or most people only need 1 scoop 1 only use a 1/2.
 
I love focus xt but focus is a nootropic aid hemoval is a pump aid so they arent even close to being similar aside from non stim.
SNS is great I have a ton of their stuff citmal, agmatine, focusxt w/ and w/o caffeine, Phenibut. I would obviously love for any product not just Iforce to be cheaper but I dont think they are too unreasonable. eespecially max intense $20-$25 for 45 servings is great especially when you or most people only need 1 scoop 1 only use a 1/2.
good points and while one is a nootropic and the other isnt..point is i take one pre workout at a time.Wouldnt buy both and stack them,thats just me.

As for hemoval,i could also buy in bulk lets just say agma and C.M and have 3times the amount of what iforce offers.now if Hemavol was $23.00-$25.00 id hop on a couple tubs.instead i can buy amgma and cm in bulk for $30.00.

Mximize isnt bad at there price either,i didnt throw that into a price comparison though.Cause its well priced. But i just feel there products can be made more affordable.

I tried hemavol yesterday on chest day and was very very impressed..So im pressed im ordering bulk agmatime and Citrulline Malate,lol...it is in my NP cart and been for a while ,really ;)

I laready have a tunb of GMS on its way to me now..but anyway i have quiet a few things but have a few all natty stack set up so everything works its way in to what im using. I dont like over kill.I keep it simple
 
Did they discontinue Hemavol in capsule form? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the websites that I usually order from. I do not consume artificial sweeteners, so the powder form is out of the question.
 
Did they discontinue Hemavol in capsule form? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the websites that I usually order from. I do not consume artificial sweeteners, so the powder form is out of the question.

Is there a legitimate reason for not consuming the entire spectrum of artificial sweeteners?
 
Did they discontinue Hemavol in capsule form? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the websites that I usually order from. I do not consume artificial sweeteners, so the powder form is out of the question.

the tablets haven't been discontinued, they should be available on a number of different sites
 
I been looking at iforce products and well i have to say whats there deal.

-Iforce Protean 20grmas of Protein per scoop,you kidding me..sounds like a ploy to make you spend more money .While most all other protein powder are 24-27grams per scoop.Its almost $30.00 for a 2lb container.

-hemavol $32.00 for $32.00 and it says take up too two scoops wihcih leaves u paying possibly $16.00 for 32 servings.

-Intimidate $35.00 for 30 pills,yes i know NMDA,but i have used other company DAAs with great success.

-Dexaprine $60.00 for 60 caps,while you are able to take 2 tablets per day

-testobolan which on avg is $35.00 everywhere except here at NP.

-ZMA $19.99 are you kidding me for 90 tabs.

-Also I order the Intimidate triple play stack,where i recieve a bag,Intimidate,ZMA and 1 sample of Hemavol and 2 of maximize
""""""NOW the picture shows 4 samples of hamavol and 3 of Mximize. """While I rrally wanted to give Hema a real look at and just not based off a one time sample.What kid of **** is that.Display a pic with false advertisement.""""
Also charge $35.00 for intimidate but basically throw in ZMA. this says a few things to me1-iforce is stingy 2-they are over priced 3-dont care about there customers and take what they can get.

my point is there are so many great competitors out there with the same products and at way better prices and products just as good if not better.I wont be a dick and post competitors,cause its not cool.


I dont get iforce you would think in a market where supps are huge you would want to be more fair.But they been around for a long while so there doing something rght.

Idk,i wanted to try them but have found great products at way more afforable prices,so if i can load up on stuff with great benefits while saving $5-$10 cheaper per product thats the way to go,its a no brainer.

only posting this cause i was seriously looking at iforce but the more i looked around the more i saw i can get products with just as a good a rep comp and prod wise for way cheaper.

#1 - No one takes more than 1 pill of Dexaprine a day.
#2 - HemaVol = 1 scoop is all you need.
#3 - Protean - All 2lbers are expensive. UP 2.0 is ~$30 tub as well. Our 4lbers are more affordable, as would all bulk purchases.
#4 - DAA =/= NMDA. Plain and simple

Finally...you get the best tasting, most effective products money can buy. If you knew how to properly decipher a product label, you'd see the prices are not only competitive, but amazing.
 
I been looking at iforce products and well i have to say whats there deal.

-Iforce Protean 20grmas of Protein per scoop,you kidding me..sounds like a ploy to make you spend more money .While most all other protein powder are 24-27grams per scoop.Its almost $30.00 for a 2lb container.

-hemavol $32.00 for $32.00 and it says take up too two scoops wihcih leaves u paying possibly $16.00 for 32 servings.

-Intimidate $35.00 for 30 pills,yes i know NMDA,but i have used other company DAAs with great success.

-Dexaprine $60.00 for 60 caps,while you are able to take 2 tablets per day

-testobolan which on avg is $35.00 everywhere except here at NP.

-ZMA $19.99 are you kidding me for 90 tabs.

-Also I order the Intimidate triple play stack,where i recieve a bag,Intimidate,ZMA and 1 sample of Hemavol and 2 of maximize
""""""NOW the picture shows 4 samples of hamavol and 3 of Mximize. """While I rrally wanted to give Hema a real look at and just not based off a one time sample.What kid of **** is that.Display a pic with false advertisement.""""
Also charge $35.00 for intimidate but basically throw in ZMA. this says a few things to me1-iforce is stingy 2-they are over priced 3-dont care about there customers and take what they can get.

my point is there are so many great competitors out there with the same products and at way better prices and products just as good if not better.I wont be a dick and post competitors,cause its not cool.


I dont get iforce you would think in a market where supps are huge you would want to be more fair.But they been around for a long while so there doing something rght.

Idk,i wanted to try them but have found great products at way more afforable prices,so if i can load up on stuff with great benefits while saving $5-$10 cheaper per product thats the way to go,its a no brainer.

only posting this cause i was seriously looking at iforce but the more i looked around the more i saw i can get products with just as a good a rep comp and prod wise for way cheaper.

to address what seemed like the major issues here:


-for hemavol, yes it says take up to 2 scoops, but most people are ok with 1 scoop. Plus you figure, on average, people train 4 times per week, and can get away with 1 scoop. Following that premise, it's about a month's supply.

-For intimidate, that's great that you've had success with DAA. However, it does not discredit NMDA; it's more expensive and harder to obtain that level of purity, but a number of testers and loggers would say it's worth the money. Just because you use DAA and feel it's expensive does not discredit the product.

-Dexaprine is 27.99 for 60 caplets on Nutraplanet...so not sure where you got $60 from. Also we never really recommend more than 1.5 caplets in a day. It's strong enough that most users beging with a half tab and then increase from there. So taking 2 tablets a day is something none of us would ever recommend.

-"Also charge $35.00 for intimidate but basically throw in ZMA. this says a few things to me1-iforce is stingy 2-they are over priced 3-dont care about there customers and take what they can get."
....never knew that including a free product with the purchase of another made a company stingy; guess a lot of companies are stingy then.

Saying we don't care about our customers is ludicrous. We truly value all the feedback we get from consumers and always do whatever we can on here and other forums to give people information on products and help them reach their goals. We take any and all questions and will always do our best to satisfy customers needs. Our goal is to help others reach their goals; none of us shill our products if it's uncalled for or make crappy recommendations just to pimp a product. Sorry that you feel this way, but to make a statement like that and to accuse iForce of something like that is ridiculous.
 
Only tried the protean VMS. It tastes pretty good, but I went over my carb limit for the day when I used it. Now if they had a carb free version, that would be amazing. Other than that the only thing I have purchased from Iforce is their fish oil. Well I did get Intimidate but I traded because I don't think it would be smart to use it with my prescription sleep aid. DAA works great for me anyway and it is much cheaper.


- as for "carb-free"/isolate...its coming, no time table set yet

- as for Intimidate, I'm not sure if it ok to take with your sleep medication. However, even though it wont be as effective, you can take Intimidate first thing in the morning if you wish to go that route.
 
Have to say... I enjoy i force products. Tried intimidate, thought it was a solid product. Been taking hemavol at 2 scoops, but will cut back to 1 now. Been taking vanilla mint swirl protean for 2 months & love it! Wish it was available in 4 pound tub. Just about to order my 3rd tub of it... I have no connections with i force... just a customer...
 
Have to say... I enjoy i force products. Tried intimidate, thought it was a solid product. Been taking hemavol at 2 scoops, but will cut back to 1 now. Been taking vanilla mint swirl protean for 2 months & love it! Wish it was available in 4 pound tub. Just about to order my 3rd tub of it... I have no connections with i force... just a customer...

thanks man!

We're hoping to have RVC + VMS in 4lbers very soon. Protean = such slow progress on new products :(
 
I respect your opinions and understand as REPS you stand by your products and kinf d of have too. i read and decypher the labels in comparion with other quality company products and then go from there. Unfortunatley ive gone with products such as PES and SNS and BPS and Purus before i have gone with iForce.Nothing personal.

i never said the products were bad.I did say i believe they are over priced.Though like any product i have read a lot of ****ty reviews about iforce,but have read plenty of good,so its a toss up depending on the individual.

Anyone can find points to stand up or go against anything.Everyone has there own views.

I wish Iforce the best of luck and hope they continue to run a successful bussiness.

and as for the DAA,well "all natty" products only do so much,we all know thats a fact. So the whole Daa thing,i cant really see how much different it would be than any other "NATTY" quality DAA,even though its not NMDA. well when i get around to trying my bottle of NMDA ,ill put up my opion and will be 100% truthful.
 
I respect your opinions and understand as REPS you stand by your products and kinf d of have too. i read and decypher the labels in comparion with other quality company products and then go from there. Unfortunatley ive gone with products such as PES and SNS and BPS and Purus before i have gone with iForce.Nothing personal.

i never said the products were bad.I did say i believe they are over priced.Though like any product i have read a lot of ****ty reviews about iforce,but have read plenty of good,so its a toss up depending on the individual.

Anyone can find points to stand up or go against anything.Everyone has there own views.

I wish Iforce the best of luck and hope they continue to run a successful bussiness.

and as for the DAA,well "all natty" products only do so much,we all know thats a fact. So the whole Daa thing,i cant really see how much different it would be than any other "NATTY" quality DAA,even though its not NMDA. well when i get around to trying my bottle of NMDA ,ill put up my opion and will be 100% truthful.

You keep mentioning that you can make our products "cheaper" if you use bulk ingredients...well duh, the same can be said for every single product.

and again, DAA =/= NMDA. The two are completely different. read all the diff logs..the results are night/day
 
Hemavol tabs for $~15 when they went on sale? yeah.. too expensive for me. Some of the best pumps I got(few years back). I never found iForce to be too expensive, obviously not the cheapest, but unfortunately in this industry(entire supplement industry) price doesn't determine quality. So yes, there are products that are cheaper and that are more expensive, but that doesn't mean they are any better or worse.
 
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