iforce intimidate and melatonin

PuZo said:
Tryptophan works better for me.
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Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.
 
Do you like intimidate? I got much better results with straight up DAA...notice iforce claims 100 times the potency...well think about it..the dose for intimidate(NMDA) is 30 mg..the dose for DAA is 3000 mg...100 times 30 is 3000.. its a marketing ploy..one that really pissed me off
 
JD261985 said:
Do you like intimidate? I got much better results with straight up DAA...notice iforce claims 100 times the potency...well think about it..the dose for intimidate(NMDA) is 30 mg..the dose for DAA is 3000 mg...100 times 30 is 3000.. its a marketing ploy..one that really pissed me off
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Potency does refer to the amount of compound needed to exert an effect. Is it 100x stronger than DAA at that dose? Nope. But is it 100x more potent at agonizing the NMDA receptor in vitro? Yup.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.
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Puzo.. Coop just skooled you ass.. I loled hard!!!!


:D
 
baldwanus said:
tis not the first time that has happened :p
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Always fun to watch though.
 
never had an issue taking the 2 together
 
drob14 said:
Just wondering if its ok to take both. Thanks for any replies
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I took them both nightly for a month and experienced the best sleep of my life!
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.
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Maybe my 5-HTP was bunk, but I noticed when taking 2g+ of Typtophan it just gave me better sleep. I'm just saiyan 5-HTP solo hasn't done anything for me that I have been able to notice. Phenibut and Tryptophan(solo) were the only 2 things that would not cause me to wake up.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.
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What level dosing would you suggest for 5-htp Coop?
 
Intimidate is my favorite supp hands down. I train at night, so sleep is always an issue. I take a sleep aid and melatonin as soon as I walk out of the gym. Ran it for 90 days, have been off for three weeks now, and sleep is a bitch. I have another week before I start back on Intimidate, and I can't wait. I honestly cannot express how much better it makes getting an awesome nights sleep.
 
latebloomer said:
Intimidate is my favorite supp hands down. I train at night, so sleep is always an issue. I take a sleep aid and melatonin as soon as I walk out of the gym. Ran it for 90 days, have been off for three weeks now, and sleep is a bitch. I have another week before I start back on Intimidate, and I can't wait. I honestly cannot express how much better it makes getting an awesome nights sleep.
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if your budget allows for it, intimidate + lights out will make one hell of a sleep combo ;)
 
latebloomer said:
Intimidate is my favorite supp hands down. I train at night, so sleep is always an issue. I take a sleep aid and melatonin as soon as I walk out of the gym. Ran it for 90 days, have been off for three weeks now, and sleep is a bitch. I have another week before I start back on Intimidate, and I can't wait. I honestly cannot express how much better it makes getting an awesome nights sleep.
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glad you enjoyed it so much bro :)

I definitely notice a difference in my sleep and recovery when I'm not on Intimidate, can't wait to start it up again
 
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