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If you had $200 to spend for supplements, monthly....

madds87 said:
OOOO i think ill go with the matt stack! Suprised no pslin or something similar?
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I wouldn't. You are essentially overpaying for isolate (vs WPC), designer carbs (versus food), ajipure ffAAs (versus basic, third-party tested), and creatine HCl (versus monohydrate). You can get an equally effective stack, using the items in paranthesis, for 1/3 the cost.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I wouldn't. You are essentially overpaying for isolate (vs WPC), designer carbs (versus food), ajipure ffAAs (versus basic, third-party tested), and creatine HCl (versus monohydrate). You can get an equally effective stack, using the items in paranthesis, for 1/3 the cost.
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True true...
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I wouldn't. You are essentially overpaying for isolate (vs WPC), designer carbs (versus food), ajipure ffAAs (versus basic, third-party tested), and creatine HCl (versus monohydrate). You can get an equally effective stack, using the items in paranthesis, for 1/3 the cost.
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Thats not the point of this thread. He has the money for it monthly like the thread title says, so thats what would he prefer. Everyone has their own preferences and what they feel works best for them.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I wouldn't. You are essentially overpaying for isolate (vs WPC), designer carbs (versus food), ajipure ffAAs (versus basic, third-party tested), and creatine HCl (versus monohydrate). You can get an equally effective stack, using the items in paranthesis, for 1/3 the cost.
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With the carb argument, have you tried some of these designer carbs? They affect me in a major different way.

50gr dextrose v. WMS v. Oats v. Karbolyn, are all different especially with the addition of p-Slin or AP or slintensity etc.... Those are my thoughts, especially from my belly's standpoint, he's a picky guy.
 
sideshowdoc said:
Thats not the point of this thread. He has the money for it monthly like the thread title says, so thats what would he prefer. Everyone has their own preferences and what they feel works best for them.
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Yay!!!!! Someone that gets the thread!!!! Lol
You will to when your a captain ;)
 
Distilled Water said:
With the carb argument, have you tried some of these designer carbs? They affect me in a major different way.

50gr dextrose v. WMS v. Oats v. Karbolyn, are all different especially with the addition of p-Slin or AP or slintensity etc.... Those are my thoughts, especially from my belly's standpoint, he's a picky guy.
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I just read you can take both ap and pslin together since there essentially two differrnt products. Just turns into a pretty intense fat attack along with gh similar attributes...
 
Goodness.. I don't think I could even spend that much.

Orange Triad
Oximega
Clout (2 scoops a day)
Body Octane + other various PREs
Protean (Red Velvet Cake and Chocolate Truffle)
N-Force or Slin Sane V2 (wanna try SS)
Figure Fuel, Xtend &/or Compete
OG Prometheus Rising


I think that's it..? lol That'd probably be around $200 if I bought it all at once, but a lot of that would last me over a month.
 
FourInchFury said:
Have you ever taken a step back and thought about how you could really be harming your body by taking all these muscle gain / energy supplements? The FDA doesn't do studies on them. Most of them are too new for anyone to know the potential long-term side effects. The recent Hydroxycut recall is evidence that these products can be dangerous. And using common sense, it's clear our bodies didn't evolve while being exposed to all these synthetic chemicals, so the potential for long-term damage is huge.What's wrong with achieving your goals the 100% natural way? Just sayin'
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How is America to push the boundaries of science without experimentation?! Give your body to science, like the rest of us! Where's your sense of patriotism, Commy?!

I'm a walking personal experiment, and I can sleep with that. You can't ever really know long-term results of doing anything; too many variables between an individual. Best bet is to listen to your body & get routine bloodwork.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I wouldn't. You are essentially overpaying for isolate (vs WPC), designer carbs (versus food), ajipure ffAAs (versus basic, third-party tested), and creatine HCl (versus monohydrate). You can get an equally effective stack, using the items in paranthesis, for 1/3 the cost.
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I would.

I notice a difference with a pure cold filtered isolate to a cheap 'costco' whey concentrate.

I can down 200g of karboload/vitargo with no stomach discomfort and eat whole food 45 mins later,

I cannot down that much in rice or oats and eat in 45 mins --- I am after utmost calories for building an 'abnormally'

large physique.

I like Ajipure aminos, but perhaps a 3rd party tested version could suffice.

As for creatine HCL --- yes, mono has been proven, but from empirical experience and a positive universal feedback,

why not...

-Matt
 
sideshowdoc said:
Thats not the point of this thread. He has the money for it monthly like the thread title says, so thats what would he prefer. Everyone has their own preferences and what they feel works best for them.
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If you are rich, does that mean you waste money? This isn't really a matter of preference given the body of literature on whey isolate versus alternatives, or high MW carbs, etc.

If he has so much to spend on supplements per month, he can buy more/better things rather than wasting $$. I'm a firm believer that you should be a smart shopper regardless of financial status.
 
MattPorter said:
I would.

I notice a difference with a pure cold filtered isolate to a cheap 'costco' whey concentrate.

I can down 200g of karboload/vitargo with no stomach discomfort and eat whole food 45 mins later,

I cannot down that much in rice or oats and eat in 45 mins --- I am after utmost calories for building an 'abnormally'

large physique.

I like Ajipure aminos, but perhaps a 3rd party tested version could suffice.

As for creatine HCL --- yes, mono has been proven, but from empirical experience and a positive universal feedback,

why not...

-Matt
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What difference do you notice between WPI and WPC? You may have lactose intolerance if what you're saying is true.

I see what you're saying with designer carbs, but dextrose can have an identical effect.

HCl is far more expensive than monohydrate per daily dose. It has improved kinetics and can saturate an individual faster, but once saturation has been achieved, monohydrate and cre hcl are essentially equal.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
What difference do you notice between WPI and WPC? You may have lactose intolerance if what you're saying is true.

I see what you're saying with designer carbs, but dextrose can have an identical effect.

HCl is far more expensive than monohydrate per daily dose. It has improved kinetics and can saturate an individual faster, but once saturation has been achieved, monohydrate and cre hcl are essentially equal.
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I do suffer from lactose intolerance so a higher quality WPI will be in my best interest.

Dextrose has a high osmolality and will just delay gastric emptying too much for what I am trying to achieve.

I need to consume a lot of food and I need things to breakdown and assimilate quickly. I know what works for my body.

-Matt
 
I think this is all very theoretical, or will be in the future. Now that Obamacare will be rolling out, no one will have $200 to spend on anything.

My insurance rates have increased over 20% - already this year.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
If you are rich, does that mean you waste money? This isn't really a matter of preference given the body of literature on whey isolate versus alternatives, or high MW carbs, etc.

If he has so much to spend on supplements per month, he can buy more/better things rather than wasting $$. I'm a firm believer that you should be a smart shopper regardless of financial status.
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And you can... its always best to get the "best" thing... hence why im getting opinions...
 
Beau said:
I think this is all very theoretical, or will be in the future. Now that Obamacare will be rolling out, no one will have $200 to spend on anything.

My insurance rates have increased over 20% - already this year.
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Very true too... but its still fun to dream... annnddd we cant be dwelling on whats done... just prep for the end of the world ;)... and im going to make sure fit for the job... :)
 
FWIW - I take several amino acids, herbs and vitamins. I buy almost all of them in bulk powder form from various sources.

That is probably the biggest single way to reduce costs, once you know what you want.
 
Beau said:
FWIW - I take several amino acids, herbs and vitamins. I buy almost all of them in bulk powder form from various sources.

That is probably the biggest single way to reduce costs, once you know what you want.
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Yeah i have been thinking of bulk stores also... cause i hatr buying every month... i like just buying once and have it all year... so ill even get unflavored of something thats good just to make it cheaper...
 
Interesting choice... im not feeling real giving though for your choice of spending... should get some cocaine atleast... (notice my sarcasm too)
 
The best diet soda, taste-wise, is xenergy drinks. The mango guava and cherry lime were comparable to the best regular sodas I've ever had.
 
The only 2 sodas I really care about are coke zero and Fresca.

StephenGarcia said:
I like coke zero more, tastes just like the real thing from a fountain
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Agree, although I went back and tried regular coke not too long ago and threw up (literally). It tastes so bad to me now.
 
3 or 4 oz into a regular soda and I'm done with it. Great for a mouthful or two, then I'm just wishing I had a cup of water because its not slaking my thirst at all. Just feels like drinking syrup.

Coke zero ftw though, would choose that over any other diet if I was gonna have one.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
If you are rich, does that mean you waste money? This isn't really a matter of preference given the body of literature on whey isolate versus alternatives, or high MW carbs, etc.

If he has so much to spend on supplements per month, he can buy more/better things rather than wasting $$. I'm a firm believer that you should be a smart shopper regardless of financial status.
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Yes dammit!! Like if I won that 500 million power ball I would have bought a mega yacht. Do I need it? No. Would it have been a waste? Yes. I still would be cruising to the US Virgin Islands in one though.

Same thought, I can cook, pretty good too, but I'd still higher a personal chef if I was rich.
 
CopyCat said:
Yes dammit!! Like if I won that 500 million power ball I would have bought a mega yacht. Do I need it? No. Would it have been a waste? Yes. I still would be cruising to the US Virgin Islands in one though.

Same thought, I can cook, pretty good too, but I'd still higher a personal chef if I was rich.
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He he good thinkin... i can cook too bud.. but a chef cooking my six meals would ne awsome
 
jimbuick said:
I like mountain dew. Got it from the dudes in my unit after we go to the field, now its an addiction.
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The once in a while I actually Drink a soda is Mountain Dew or something exotic like cream soda but that also is just like half of a can or bottle before I am seeking some water
 
But it's really all about Walmarts Sparkling Water.

Piña Colada flavor >
Plus they're like 79 cents a liter.
 
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