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If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo

Easy fellas. I've been around long enough to know how this goes. Supplements of course are just that. I'm just surprised since the reports I have seen talk about feeling it - pumps, endurance, ease of breath. That's why i was asking when most "feel" it kick in. I'm less concerned about a "feel" then effects. Either way, I'm ready to give it a fair shake. Only into week 2, and I've got two bottles, so time will tell.

I don't really feel any of the effects (sweating, alpha feeling, etc) that I've read others do, and I'm just about done my second bottle. The first couple weeks were decent, could have been placebo maybe not. I forget exactly but maybe week 3ish i started to see the strength gains and they've been pretty consistent since. Iirc, I seemed to have better endurance pretty early on but as far as strength it took a little bit to shine for me, but it's been pretty great since.
 
Easy fellas. I've been around long enough to know how this goes. Supplements of course are just that. I'm just surprised since the reports I have seen talk about feeling it - pumps, endurance, ease of breath. That's why i was asking when most "feel" it kick in. I'm less concerned about a "feel" then effects. Either way, I'm ready to give it a fair shake. Only into week 2, and I've got two bottles, so time will tell.
Like others have said there is no "feel" to it. I didn't experience any of the "effects" until week 2. Its hard to explain but I feel like I can workout longer and get less fatigued then usual. I suggest going up in reps because you will see more endurance in your workouts being able to bang out those extra reps that are necessary for growth, and if you eat above maitenance you will definitely grow. Haven't weighed in for my sixth week yet, but I have already gained 9lbs over 5 weeks and I think I have stayed around the same bodyfat (you can judge from my progress pics from 4 weeks on my log BLR quest to greatness). Give it a little time eat right and push yourself in the gym and I think you will enjoy follidrone good luck bud
 
Like others have said there is no "feel" to it. I didn't experience any of the "effects" until week 2. Its hard to explain but I feel like I can workout longer and get less fatigued then usual. I suggest going up in reps because you will see more endurance in your workouts being able to bang out those extra reps that are necessary for growth, and if you eat above maitenance you will definitely grow. Haven't weighed in for my sixth week yet, but I have already gained 9lbs over 5 weeks and I think I have stayed around the same bodyfat (you can judge from my progress pics from 4 weeks on my log BLR quest to greatness). Give it a little time eat right and push yourself in the gym and I think you will enjoy follidrone good luck bud

Impressive. Post up your log and I'll jump in.
 
Its def. something you notice down the road, and the "feels" should come if you have a good grasp on how your usual training does feel. Ive come a long way with it myself and for my own physical and mental reasons Ive "felt" and lived a roller coaster of effects. It will be greatly individual but the majority all come to similar conclusions.
 
Like others have said there is no "feel" to it. I didn't experience any of the "effects" until week 2. Its hard to explain but I feel like I can workout longer and get less fatigued then usual. I suggest going up in reps because you will see more endurance in your workouts being able to bang out those extra reps that are necessary for growth, and if you eat above maitenance you will definitely grow. Haven't weighed in for my sixth week yet, but I have already gained 9lbs over 5 weeks and I think I have stayed around the same bodyfat (you can judge from my progress pics from 4 weeks on my log BLR quest to greatness). Give it a little time eat right and push yourself in the gym and I think you will enjoy follidrone good luck bud

9 lbs lean in 5 weeks? What else you on bro? ;)
 
9 lbs lean in 5 weeks? What else you on bro? ;)
lol all natty bro. I know its not all muscle but im up in my weights too best supplement I've ever taken imo i also took it along a stack with viron and formeron so I think my results have been even more pronounced especially with the formeron helping to keep me lean haha
 
lol all natty bro. I know its not all muscle but im up in my weights too best supplement I've ever taken imo i also took it along a stack with viron and formeron so I think my results have been even more pronounced especially with the formeron helping to keep me lean haha

Hearing this is one of the primary reasons I make supplements. Ive said this dozens of times but i remember taking every supp under the sun when i started training and it seemed like nothing reallt worked.
Seeing your results using blr supps makes me proud to be doing what im doing.
 
Hearing this is one of the primary reasons I make supplements. Ive said this dozens of times but i remember taking every supp under the sun when i started training and it seemed like nothing reallt worked.
Seeing your results using blr supps makes me proud to be doing what im doing.
i got my viron yesterday, love that lj
 
i got my viron yesterday, love that lj

It really is a good extract. Its not LJ though ;)
Much better IMHO but of course this is subjective as there are no set guidelines with EL extracts.

I just really like the way it makes me feel over others.

EDIT:

It was pointed out to me that you probably meant Longjack. It is longjack. I thought you means LJ100 the stuff everyone thinks is the best.


OURS IS BETTER
 
Im on week 3 on follidrone and I am trully amazed the pumps are incredible im leaning out and my diet isnt even really strict I really do feel as if im on a Ph. Im now considering returning my epistane and purchasing another follidrone!! Im taking two preworkout these ****ing pumps !!!! :-)
 

Invalid Link Removed Originally Posted by Touey Invalid Link Removed
I started Follidrone after being on nothing else for months other than a basic pre-workout; speaking to sports nutrition

supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.

Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.

I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and

Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it

altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is

transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,

I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.


the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide






update on feelings about week 5


after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant







In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity, feelings about week 6

there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone






week 7

there has been not the slightest abatement in any of the positives aforementioned. Of special note, now workouts are becoming more singular; calf day has become a day unto its own the intensity is such on that one area that's enough of a workout, and indeed I feel like I've been through a thorough workout at that, whereas I've never before had a single day devoted to calves and had the kind of intensity I do now.

Concerning body composition really seeing the results now in week 7 more than in any other so far, in a way I wish I'd taken before and after simply for documentaries sake. One thing I've felt which ought perhaps to be mentioned is the nice way which the compound's profound effect on workouts helps wellness and generally feeling better throughout the weeks I've been on, although as we all know taking this compound in this fashion is relatively new and I am not saying there may not occur some negative side from taking this long term in the future.









week 8

I was wondering if the same thing that happened in week 4 would happen in week 8 and it has. Same as in week four "
body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up"

it's been light weights and high reps week 8. I don't like it, but there we are, when something is really working you'll notice this. Otherwise all your workouts would be the same no ups and downs but also no growth; it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5






week 8.5


Tentative Follidrone dosing scheme

week 1 - on
week 2- on
week3 - on
week4 - off "no Follidrone" - very light weight; don't workout the body parts which are sore at all

week 5- on
week 6- on
week 7- on
week 8- off ......

week 9-on
week 10-on
week 11-on
week 12-off

week 13-on
week 14-on
week 15-on
week 16 -off

etc.





I find Follidrone works quite fast felt it upon starting, I believe giving your body a break every forth week is crucial on this.



A break from Follidrone during this week will be the ideal time, I am confident that you will keep the gains made from the previous three weeks during these forth week breaks.



I think this is perhaps the ideal
way to dose Follidrone. I don't think the forth week is necessarily "the week" for everyone to take off. It may be every fifth week etc. for you
.

i.e. the dosing protocol needn't be "every 4th week" for some the deload / break from follidrone may be the 8th week....on seven weeks off every 8th week, everyone is different...your body will let you know the week believe me.Invalid Link Removed


For me it happens to be the forth, I've found my body needs a deload week / break from Follidrone






"Do I feel like taking that week off was mainly about physically recovering from the increased volume/intensity during the follidrone phase, or did stopping the follidrone during that time also allow you to avoid any tolerance and remain more sensitive to its effects?" --both





week 9

"it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5"





Honestly it took a bit of patience having to wait and see if Follidrone would rebound in week 9 as in week five.

In the back of my mind I knew there was a chance the dosing scheme would not work, hence the reason I used words like tentative and confident instead of certain or sure. It has worked though just as in week 5.

I am up roughly 30% in actual weight able to lift now in week 9 from week 1, transformative recomp, still way less HIIT than normal as the workouts on it are such that I've had to cut HIIT way down to get my resting heart rate to normal. The hunger at the end of deload week 8 was very high.






week 10


The longer I'm on the more I've noticed you needn't get overly concerned with lifting high amounts of weight to build loads muscle on Follidrone. Pay attention to form, focus, use variation techniques and you'll do very well building substantial muscle on this.








week 11



I have never seriously recommended anything because no difference has been made much by any natty for me, maybe the little pump from agmatine etc.

I am tempted to have these caps tested because it does not feel natty to me. If the integrity of the quality for

the product does not slip and the exact same ingredient in the same dosages are continued on the same as that

which I am taking now it will be something I will always keep on hand



the aforementioned initial post has remained true, the integrity has indeed not slipped even if it may have been easy to have let it in efforts to bring raws to market fast of lesser quality, I've only used Folloidrone (-)-epi;

the various reviews made under my name for (-)-epi or other products are fictionalized by I know not whom. I've never formerly reviewed a product on NP nor any other supplement store site.



nearly 3 months in and the evaluation of good dry muscle tissue is exceptional. The progression made with the compound is such that each week diminishing returns are virtually non-existent, as long as I've taken the week break from (-)-epi during each deload week.

A negative factor if indeed it would be such is an inability to keep up with HIIT due to the extra time spent in workout sessions, intensity, general volume. I've had to restrict HIIT by half to get my resting heart rate to normal







week 12 -3 Months

An overview of 3 months on Follidrone puts to mind one very key thing; after 3 Months of taking any compound generally ones enthusiasm abates a bit.

However upon seeing such cumulative results such as finding muscles one knew not were there, increased appetite; more the past week than in the whole run, yet still gaining whilst leaning it's not difficult to remain curious.

This is deload / break from Follidrone week I've slept, then slept, and slept some more; 10 hours last night, 9 the previous.

I am afraid if you do not assimilate this much needed protocol of breaking from Follidrone during these deloads it will be a bit like spinning your wheels; the bodies not a machine contrary to what some may think. You can't simply keep adding more fuel expecting it to remain at high speeds.

the composition itself does not cause hunger, the appetite increase is simply a response of the body in an effort to fulfill the demands placed on it from the results of (-)-epi




week 13

It is always nice to be back after deloading. I've wondered if the great feeling after workouts is attributed to the composition itself or the great workouts which Follidrone results in.

After over 3 months and thinking about what would help folks in understanding long term dosing and how one may get a better handle on Follidrone; a better understanding of the composition. I think it is important to note with any composition you've got to change up your training.

Why is there so much turn over on these forums? People become interested in "bodybuilding" reach a peak hit PRs plateau then become discouraged finally giving up.

What makes it worse is the ads and marketing slogans, "Become a machine, not to be used unless you're a bodybuilder! top secret formula explosive gains!" Combined with reckless post / advise


The reality is it takes more patience than many things such as golf and even chess. It is no sprint rather a marathon. Constantly chasing PRs, continually using the same routine and expecting new lean gains all the time will get you no where.

I don't mean you've got to create totally new routines, slight variations will do well; different challenging angles even if there be a drop in volume.


This is the way to go about creating a physique that will continue to change and advance through the years.
Although it indeed takes patience, it's something which may benefit throughout ones life if understood properly.

addendum: the explosive gains on Follidrone happen to be realInvalid Link Removed














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week 14

I've decided to add 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin and this only.


Why choose this composition?

Chiefly for two reasons,



1. It's also a natty which though there may be risk with such things, generally more folks will have less issues.

2. Though Follidrone is the only natty I've seen significant lean mass gains on, 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin is virtually the only natty, (sports nutrition) I've not tried.


Though the compound has produced nearly as many threads as deer antler if not as many laughs it is intriguing.





Someone I think it may have been kisaj mentioned he'd a bit of difficulty comprehending why everyone hadn't given Follidrone a go.
I would put 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin in this same category, 50mg of 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin orally 30 min. pre-workout and the results just as Follidrone are brilliant.

I ended up busting a cable rope at the handle today. I know there're folks here and other forums espousing they've seen no difference singularly with (-)-epi. One does wonder about things occasionally though, particularly when such evidence becomes apparent in personal usage if they're on the forums actually lifting and giving an unbiased account or simply for social purposes; not that there's anything especially wrong with that per se Invalid Link Removed









Week 15


What amazing natty compounds, needles in haystacks are hard to find; look how long it has taken for us to happen upon these.

Upped to 75mg of pure
5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin 30 min. pre and noticed significant increase in strength.

Though the compound proffers no pump nor endurance evidence which is so prevalent amongst folks eating Follidrone the strength on all lifts, singularly compound movements is remarkable.

Overall physique not to mention sense of well being from manipulating these compositions is something I've not thought would ever be possible with nattys


Sup Whacked




week 16

deload


5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin is a quirky funky little composition. There is no doubt it works for strength. I've noticed great benefits to joints. It also has a nice effect on sense of well being. I wouldn't say it is from a test boost per se although there is more aggression there. Generally feeling well and energetic on the compound but not at all like caffeine.

It is simply not in the same league as Follidrone with its myostatin inhibition in regards to building lean mass, but then no natty is. In my opinion. 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin is though a league above all else out currently and works very well. In my opinion.

Unfortunately it affects my sleep in a negative way. After I upped the dose to 75mg sleep was severely impaired. When I dropped it down to 50mg sleep was better however still problematic.

Finally as at 25mg sleep is unaffected and still at this small dose I am noticing benefits although not nearly what I was on the upper dosages.

This week, an off week from Follidrone is much needed. I'll continue to take the 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin during off weeks.


 
Im def gonna give it a shot, thanks touey! My joints have been bugging me more and more, maybe it's the increased strength and volume while I've been getting pretty damn lean? Idk
 
Are you already using Cissus? That is what works for me and I always recommend it. Never heard from anyone that did not get improvement with joint pain.
 
Are you already using Cissus? That is what works for me and I always recommend it. Never heard from anyone that did not get improvement with joint pain.
I honestly fckn love cissus and was gonna order some, haven't taken it in a little bit, may even have like half a bottle in one of my supplement drawers. I remember the first time I tried cissus in college when it came out my elbows had been hurting so much I couldn't go over 295 on bench without pain, second week on cissus I did 365 for 5 with no pain. I was thinking about giving this stuff a try tho since touey seems to like it.
 
thanks man, this stuff looks pretty good. I may give this a shot and add a little more cissus to it. I'm already taking a liquid gluc/chon with msm.

Yah Im a fan of all of ANtaeus products. They are very unique in their approach, tend to use novel ingredients and take time to develop new things that you dont see every day. In addition the products work well. Ive recommended Achilles to several people and everyone seems to love it.

Im not sure if its in there but I also like MSM for joints.
3 g am 3 g pm.
use the powder. JArrow makes a good one. Tastes like a dirty diaper topped with indian food thats been in the sun for a month.
 
Antaeus is great as well as iForce Joint Help. Add in glucosamine with either one for issue free joints.
 
Also I just wanted to mention. Currently as you guys know we have the Follidrone transformation challenge currently running.
Final entry date was the 15th of july so we will run judging from the 16th-

Ill put up a thread in our subforum and link it in the company promotions forum.
We need to get everyone in there for judging as we are looking to you guys the AM members to judge.

Ill tell you guys what all we need for the final entry and we will combine it all in one thread for viewing.







On another note.

In an effort to make the forum experience more fun, Get more of the community together for competitions, and of course in order to make sure you guys have the opportunity to get lots of free product- Shortly we are starting another comp.
This one will be in concert with Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed
Lots of prizes and a much more....complex competition. There is going to be a TON of product giveaways.

Also this comp is going to coincide with the release of Antaeus Labs new product !!!
This stuff is amazing from what Im hearing. Im going to start my bottle shortly.

So during the comp there will be stacked deals at Strong. The stacks will be designed specifically to help those in the competition reach the finish line a winner. There will be BLR stacks, BLR/ Antaeus stacks, Antaeus stacks and more.
We are also giving away a ton of product for the winners. IN this comp there will be several winners and multiple classes.

Ill put up the details once we get the Transformation challenge closer to finish.

This is gonna be super sick., You guys should be excited!
 
Also I just wanted to mention. Currently as you guys know we have the Follidrone transformation challenge currently running. Final entry date was the 15th of july so we will run judging from the 16th- Ill put up a thread in our subforum and link it in the company promotions forum. We need to get everyone in there for judging as we are looking to you guys the AM members to judge. Ill tell you guys what all we need for the final entry and we will combine it all in one thread for viewing. On another note. In an effort to make the forum experience more fun, Get more of the community together for competitions, and of course in order to make sure you guys have the opportunity to get lots of free product- Shortly we are starting another comp. This one will be in concert with Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed Lots of prizes and a much more....complex competition. There is going to be a TON of product giveaways. Also this comp is going to coincide with the release of Antaeus Labs new product !!! This stuff is amazing from what Im hearing. Im going to start my bottle shortly. So during the comp there will be stacked deals at Strong. The stacks will be designed specifically to help those in the competition reach the finish line a winner. There will be BLR stacks, BLR/ Antaeus stacks, Antaeus stacks and more. We are also giving away a ton of product for the winners. IN this comp there will be several winners and multiple classes. Ill put up the details once we get the Transformation challenge closer to finish. This is gonna be super sick., You guys should be excited!

Question! Does everybody who entered the BLR transformation challenge end on the 15th! Because i started June 8 and going to the 15th would make it another week or so! Just not fair for people who started early or late!
 
Also I just wanted to mention. Currently as you guys know we have the Follidrone transformation challenge currently running.
Final entry date was the 15th of july so we will run judging from the 16th-

Ill put up a thread in our subforum and link it in the company promotions forum.
We need to get everyone in there for judging as we are looking to you guys the AM members to judge.

Ill tell you guys what all we need for the final entry and we will combine it all in one thread for viewing.







On another note.

In an effort to make the forum experience more fun, Get more of the community together for competitions, and of course in order to make sure you guys have the opportunity to get lots of free product- Shortly we are starting another comp.
This one will be in concert with Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed
Lots of prizes and a much more....complex competition. There is going to be a TON of product giveaways.

Also this comp is going to coincide with the release of Antaeus Labs new product !!!
This stuff is amazing from what Im hearing. Im going to start my bottle shortly.

So during the comp there will be stacked deals at Strong. The stacks will be designed specifically to help those in the competition reach the finish line a winner. There will be BLR stacks, BLR/ Antaeus stacks, Antaeus stacks and more.
We are also giving away a ton of product for the winners. IN this comp there will be several winners and multiple classes.

Ill put up the details once we get the Transformation challenge closer to finish.

This is gonna be super sick., You guys should be excited!

Im in...Im in....DANGIT IM IN!!!!
 
Question! Does everybody who entered the BLR transformation challenge end on the 15th! Because i started June 8 and going to the 15th would make it another week or so! Just not fair for people who started early or late!

I would think that as long as your pics are up to date and you have been steady in updating then the record should stand. Up to the BOSS though.

I would think everyone is finishing up soon though
 
I would think that as long as your pics are up to date and you have been steady in updating then the record should stand. Up to the BOSS though. I would think everyone is finishing up soon though

Yep! But not everybody started the same day though....just saying that the people who started early have an advantage!
 
Ok! Fine with me! Just thought i would i throw that out there
I can see where you're coming from and I would be thinking the same thing if it was different compounds like ph's that can pack on mass in a short time span. All up to brundel though!
 
Not everyone started on the same day nor will they end on the same day.
THe last start date was the 15th so we will make the last finish date the 15th.
Each contestant runs 8 weeks regardless.

On the 15th we will begin posting everything up for judging.

Ill start a new thread-
Each contestant will post their before and after shots along with any relevant info like measurements and weight for example.

Ill post up invitations in a few places on the forums in order to get people in there for judging.
We want as many judges as possible as Bodybuilding is subjective. The more eyes we have on you the more even the judging will be.


Shortly after or perhaps even before the physique comp is over we will begin another comp.
This one will include videos and most likely a final vid with a bunch of you guys in it.
You tube channel dedicated specifically to the comp
Might even get some of my friends (pro powerlifters) to log in on the forum and give contestants some advice that may help you win.

This is not a physique comp.

Its a powerlifting comp.
We will have weight classes.

Best combined 3 lift numbers
Best BP
Best DL
Best Squat
Most reps with 235.

Etc.
At this point Ill also accept suggestions with regards to what to include in the comp. I want to get as many of you guys involved as possible as itll make for better competition.

Oh...and Antaeus is releasing a strength product concurrent to the comp so youll have access to discounted stacks with Follidrone, Formeron and the new product.

Im working on designing the rules and regulations.
Im also working on the requirements for each lift video. We need ot make sure the videos are legit.

This is gonna be fn sick
 
Nice. My 4th folli run is going to be a full strength period and I can't wait to see what the strength product is to stack with this.
 
Not everyone started on the same day nor will they end on the same day. THe last start date was the 15th so we will make the last finish date the 15th. Each contestant runs 8 weeks regardless. On the 15th we will begin posting everything up for judging. Ill start a new thread- Each contestant will post their before and after shots along with any relevant info like measurements and weight for example. Ill post up invitations in a few places on the forums in order to get people in there for judging. We want as many judges as possible as Bodybuilding is subjective. The more eyes we have on you the more even the judging will be. Shortly after or perhaps even before the physique comp is over we will begin another comp. This one will include videos and most likely a final vid with a bunch of you guys in it. You tube channel dedicated specifically to the comp Might even get some of my friends (pro powerlifters) to log in on the forum and give contestants some advice that may help you win. This is not a physique comp. Its a powerlifting comp. We will have weight classes. Best combined 3 lift numbers Best BP Best DL Best Squat Most reps with 235. Etc. At this point Ill also accept suggestions with regards to what to include in the comp. I want to get as many of you guys involved as possible as itll make for better competition. Oh...and Antaeus is releasing a strength product concurrent to the comp so youll have access to discounted stacks with Follidrone, Formeron and the new product. Im working on designing the rules and regulations. Im also working on the requirements for each lift video. We need ot make sure the videos are legit. This is gonna be fn sick

So when each person's 8 weeks is up, they then take final pictures, correct?
 
OK guys got my Follidrone and excited to get started, just need a bit of advice before doing so. I have some ARA (X-Gels) as well as some Oxyeca Black. I want to know if stacking all this is good or counter productive. My intention is add muscle, get toned and tight while keeping body fat as low as possible. I eat clean for the most part. I have been resting the last month or so, so I am ready to get back into it. I welcome your input
 
I always ran supplements on their own so I know what to expect from it and then may choose to stack them later. That is the only way to know what is working.
 
Yeah I agree, I guess I am a stackaholic, lol. It would still be good to know from a scientific view if it might be an effective stack that way I can consider after the solo run. Yes, I will take your advice and run solo to gauge the results better .
 
Yeah I agree, I guess I am a stackaholic, lol. It would still be good to know from a scientific view if it might be an effective stack that way I can consider after the solo run. Yes, I will take your advice and run solo to gauge the results better .

I'm with kisaj regarding trying things individually so you know what's working. That being said, at quick glance there's nothing in the three supplements that look like they would negatively interact, so when the time comes it should be an effective stack. Enjoy your run.
 
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