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Iconic Formulations Neuro AET and Melatonin log

Real quick update, had a really hard time getting to sleep last night and it was mostly my fault. Studied too long and waited until right before bed to take a huge exam. Felt a little bit of anxiety and then was wired awake for a couple hours. On the flip side that was the best quality sleep I have had so far for the 5 or so hours I was down and I feel pretty good.
 
Real quick update, had a really hard time getting to sleep last night and it was mostly my fault. Studied too long and waited until right before bed to take a huge exam. Felt a little bit of anxiety and then was wired awake for a couple hours. On the flip side that was the best quality sleep I have had so far for the 5 or so hours I was down and I feel pretty good.

That’s a great benefit. Quality is better than quantity.
 
I am the exact opposite and quite jealous of you 😂 always had a hard time getting to sleep and staying asleep yet somehow an equally hard time waking up 😂

Now i don't always have the easiest time falling asleep but I do look forward to sleep :) When I'm up I'm up. Don't have any issues in that department.
 
Ok so little longer update, finally off shift and about to crash for the night. Went the whole day without caffeine which is pretty awesome. Felt super well rested even without a ton of sleep. Went from 7am to 7pm working at the mountain and then stopped moving and crashed hard, took a power nap for an hour and went to work at the bar at 8:30. This was really nice, I have never felt really rested from a “power nap” before but this one had me ready to go the whole rest of the night. Even now I know I need sleep and I’m very excited to go to bed but I feel like I have more than enough energy still.
 
Had a kind of confident feeling, like nothing could bother me tonight at work which was really nice.
 
Had a kind of confident feeling, like nothing could bother me tonight at work which was really nice.

That’s always a great feeling.
 
Had a kind of confident feeling, like nothing could bother me tonight at work which was really nice.
people pay a lot of money for prescription meds for that kind of feeling, and those prescription meds come with a variety of negative sides...btw-how is libido?
 
people pay a lot of money for prescription meds for that kind of feeling, and those prescription meds come with a variety of negative sides...btw-how is libido?
Your comment could not have come at a better time, spent the day with the girlfriend and had quite the day… if you catch my drift. Lately with the stuff I’ve had going on I’m only good for maybe two rounds in a day but I went for three today and was ready for four but ran out of time. It was quite surprising and very welcome. Is libido a great side effect of this that I haven’t heard much about?

As far as the side effects for a compound that provides that feeling I have only had good side effects, better sleep, and improved libido. 😁
 
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Sleep was excellent again, woke up only one time an hour before my alarm and had no problems falling asleep again. It is small improvements but compared to waking up multiple times it makes a big difference in the quality of sleep and the amount of actual resting time. Went another whole day without caffeine and no nap today either. Woke up easily and have not had any issues with being tired.
 
A note on the libido aspect is that it really was not noticeable at all until the opportunity presented itself. My libido was very normal and tame until she came around for the day and it was off to the races… definitely seemed like I could just keep going
 
Your comment could not have come at a better time, spent the day with the girlfriend and had quite the day… if you catch my drift. Lately with the stuff I’ve had going on I’m only good for maybe two rounds in a day but I went for three today and was ready for four but ran out of time. It was quite surprising and very welcome. Is libido a great side effect of this that I haven’t heard much about?

As far as the side effects for a compound that provides that feeling I have only had good side effects, better sleep, and improved libido. 😁
fantastic...and the number one reason many buy the product hasn't even been noticed-YET!!!!

but i bet it's coming.... 😇
 
Last nights sleep was nothing short of amazing. Honestly slept so soundly I felt like I had taken melatonin, got 8 hours in and then woke up no problem. I’ve made it through another whole day without caffeine or just feeling dead tired which is pretty dang impressive for me.

Little note on the carrier that I’m noticing is how much of a difference it makes having the product dry a few minutes quicker than other TD products when I’m rushing out of the house in the morning. Even just a couple minutes less waiting until I can put on my shirt adds up quickly when I have places to be.
 
Last nights sleep was nothing short of amazing. Honestly slept so soundly I felt like I had taken melatonin, got 8 hours in and then woke up no problem. I’ve made it through another whole day without caffeine or just feeling dead tired which is pretty dang impressive for me.

Little note on the carrier that I’m noticing is how much of a difference it makes having the product dry a few minutes quicker than other TD products when I’m rushing out of the house in the morning. Even just a couple minutes less waiting until I can put on my shirt adds up quickly when I have places to be.
great sleep is a wonderful thing!!! :)
 
Last nights sleep was nothing short of amazing. Honestly slept so soundly I felt like I had taken melatonin, got 8 hours in and then woke up no problem. I’ve made it through another whole day without caffeine or just feeling dead tired which is pretty dang impressive for me.

Little note on the carrier that I’m noticing is how much of a difference it makes having the product dry a few minutes quicker than other TD products when I’m rushing out of the house in the morning. Even just a couple minutes less waiting until I can put on my shirt adds up quickly when I have places to be.

Rob does have the best carriers on the market today. He knows what the customer base wants and fast drying is a huge part of that.
 
Rob does have the best carriers on the market today. He knows what the customer base wants and fast drying is a huge part of that.
as far as transdermals go the carrier makes all the difference between sitting on skin and being absorbed into bloodstream.
 
BP update, had the time to wake up, apply the first dose, take my blood pressure, wait until the breathing kicked in and then measure blood pressure again. The first time the averages came down to 2 points on both measures which is negligible. This time there was a noticeable drop of 6.5 points in systolic over the average of three tests before and after, and an increase of seven points diastolic over the same sample range. Not quite sure what to make of this but it is interesting nonetheless.

Edit: 3 tests both before and after, not three tests total
 
BP update, had the time to wake up, apply the first dose, take my blood pressure, wait until the breathing kicked in and then measure blood pressure again. The first time the averages came down to 2 points on both measures which is negligible. This time there was a noticeable drop of 6.5 points in systolic over the average of three tests before and after, and an increase of seven points diastolic over the same sample range. Not quite sure what to make of this but it is interesting nonetheless.

Edit: 3 tests both before and after, not three tests total

Another interesting side effect of this. Good to see so much positive coming from your log.
 
Another interesting side effect of this. Good to see so much positive coming from your log.
Since taking this I’ve been able to cut out both caffeine and melatonin. I sleep better at night and feel more rested throughout the day. Very happy and lucky to have the opportunity to log this. 😁
 
Since taking this I’ve been able to cut out both caffeine and melatonin. I sleep better at night and feel more rested throughout the day. Very happy and lucky to have the opportunity to log this. 😁
this goes both ways...you are doing a great job-thank you!!! :)
 
Since taking this I’ve been able to cut out both caffeine and melatonin. I sleep better at night and feel more rested throughout the day. Very happy and lucky to have the opportunity to log this.

Doing a great job with the log
 
Had my first night of not so great sleep since I started taking this. It seemed like my sleep was absolute crap but I feel pretty rested and awake still. Maybe I am thinking its cruddy sleep compared to the other nights of good sleep on this but I feel great now that I am up and have been doing stuff.

A not on the scent of the product, it definitely goes better with my cologne than other TD products I have used. I love the mint/eucalyptus scent of the apex products but it certainly isn't complimentary to my cologne which is bourbon, vetiver, and oak. The clary sage is not overpowering but it is noticeable for a little while after application, and it's kind of nice that it works pretty well with cologne for the few occasions I wear it.
 
@thebigt @cheftepesh1 Thank you for the kind words and checking in! Makes logging much more fun when you've got some people to keep posting for. Hopefully some more people hop in and follow, this stuff is absolutely fantastic.

Tomorrow morning first thing I'll update weight and waist measurement, did not realize today was already one week in so I'll be doing this one at 8 days but I'm planning to update those weekly.
 
@thebigt @cheftepesh1 Thank you for the kind words and checking in! Makes logging much more fun when you've got some people to keep posting for. Hopefully some more people hop in and follow, this stuff is absolutely fantastic.

Tomorrow morning first thing I'll update weight and waist measurement, did not realize today was already one week in so I'll be doing this one at 8 days but I'm planning to update those weekly.
absolutely...the 1st time i used invictus i was sold and neuro AET is invictus+clay sage.

amazing that the reason most people buy neuro-AET is for the fat burning, especially targeting waist and you have barely even mentioned that, lol. good things are coming 👍:)
 
amazing that the reason most people buy neuro-AET is for the fat burning, especially targeting waist and you have barely even mentioned that, lol. good things are coming 👍:)

I've had many good side effects from this so far but have not noticed much visual change in body composition yet. At eight days in though I should have plenty of time left to notice this 😁
 
Back to good sleep again and waking up easy, took only a few minutes this morning. Glad the night before was a fluke with the bad sleep.

The measurements from this morning first thing were 181.6 pounds and exactly 32 on the waist. @thebigt I may not be visually seeing it yet but down 3.6 pounds in one week. Waist is up a half inch but I don't look much different in terms of either leaner or chunkier.
 
Back to good sleep again and waking up easy, took only a few minutes this morning. Glad the night before was a fluke with the bad sleep.

The measurements from this morning first thing were 181.6 pounds and exactly 32 on the waist. @thebigt I may not be visually seeing it yet but down 3.6 pounds in one week. Waist is up a half inch but I don't look much different in terms of either leaner or chunkier.
lol...it's only been 8 days, wait a week and i bet you start to see some visual changes...in the meantime great sleep is a wonderful thing-eh? :)
 
lol...it's only been 8 days, wait a week and i bet you start to see some visual changes...in the meantime great sleep is a wonderful thing-eh? :)
I'm sure I will, I was quite surprised to see the scale there today. I would be more than willing to run this product again just for the mental benefits but if I drop some fat in addition I certainly wouldn't complain 😁
 
I'm sure I will, I was quite surprised to see the scale there today. I would be more than willing to run this product again just for the mental benefits but if I drop some fat in addition I certainly wouldn't complain 😁
@New guy don't forget the immune system boosting of b-AET plus the anti-inflammatory affect. i just tagged you in a thread discussing all of the great benefits.
 
@New guy don't forget the immune system boosting of b-AET plus the anti-inflammatory affect. i just tagged you in a thread discussing all of the great benefits.
Much appreciated, just read through all of that. Somehow when I was researching this before applying to log I missed that writeup. Some very interesting stuff for sure! Not quite sure how to measure its effect on my immune system but I can say for sure that I haven't gotten sick since starting this log!
 
Much appreciated, just read through all of that. Somehow when I was researching this before applying to log I missed that writeup. Some very interesting stuff for sure! Not quite sure how to measure its effect on my immune system but I can say for sure that I haven't gotten sick since starting this log!
lol...i'm sure those effects will kick in over time, 8 days is just a pimple on the back of father time :p
 
Worked another late shift last night and had that confident feeling again during the shift. Seems like the “calm, confident” feeling comes into play more in stressful situations. When I’m not doing much I feel pretty normal but it seems like this compound converts stress into calm.

After being so surprised with the weight yesterday I wanted to see if it was a fluke and this morning weighed myself dry again and it was 178.2 😳 even more surprising than yesterday. If there are any visual changes to accompany the weight I would say I look pretty dry, but not much noticeable fat loss. Yet…
 
Worked another late shift last night and had that confident feeling again during the shift. Seems like the “calm, confident” feeling comes into play more in stressful situations. When I’m not doing much I feel pretty normal but it seems like this compound converts stress into calm.

After being so surprised with the weight yesterday I wanted to see if it was a fluke and this morning weighed myself dry again and it was 178.2 😳 even more surprising than yesterday. If there are any visual changes to accompany the weight I would say I look pretty dry, but not much noticeable fat loss. Yet…
damn, on the 2nd you were 184.2...i am VERY impressed, damn!!! :)
 
wow, what was your goal again?
I don't have a weight goal, mostly just wanted to experience the better sleep and less stress with this product. I'm not eating in a deficit or doing any more cardio than usual. I expected to drop some water weight because of cortisol reduction but if this continues I will be very impressed.
 
I don't have a weight goal, mostly just wanted to experience the better sleep and less stress with this product. I'm not eating in a deficit or doing any more cardio than usual. I expected to drop some water weight because of cortisol reduction but if this continues I will be very impressed.
just wanted to make sure that you are ok with this kinda dramatic weight loss?

i'm very impressed also, just wanted to make sure we are on the same page :)
 
just wanted to make sure that you are ok with this kinda dramatic weight loss?

i'm very impressed also, just wanted to make sure we are on the same page :)
I'm totally okay with it as long as I don't lose my strength.

A little more detail on my current goals: I'm trying to get back into powerlifting shape again so strength has been all I'm after. I did focus more on hypertrophy and bulk up a bit over the last year, gained almost 20 pounds but have a tiny bit more in the midsection so if I lean out without losing muscle or strength that is optimal. For reference my best ever bench was 305 pounds at 163 bodyweight and my last max out day I got 295 at 185 bodyweight. Just started my strength building phase again and as long as the bench keeps progressing I'm a happy man. This product is supposed to be anti-catabolic so I am assuming that none of the weight lost is muscle.
 
So a little note on the libido while I'm still thinking about it, my brain works in interesting ways and if I don't write down my thoughts as I have them I tend to forget to put them in the updates. Anyways, libido is still very high when the opportunity is present. When I am around my girlfriend it is sky high, but when I'm doing other things and not around her I'm pretty normal. Not like going through puberty and having awkward boners all the time, just makes me raring and ready to go when I can.
 
Oh I’m definitely in! Following yours and Smont’s.

The neuro AET has me intrigued especially after hearing you are not in a calorie deficit.

I’m sure you said you dosing am/pm?
 
I'm going to start updating weight daily, It's moving far more quickly than I expected it to
Just be careful, when I start weighing myself daily I drive myself crazy lol. I get obsessed with the scale and start forgetting to asses my appearance. It's more so a problem when bulking. Cutting, not so big a deal
 
Oh I’m definitely in! Following yours and Smont’s.

The neuro AET has me intrigued especially after hearing you are not in a calorie deficit.

I’m sure you said you dosing am/pm?
.5ml as soon as I wake up and .5ml in the afternoon at least 4 hours before bed. The afternoon isn't a set time, more of a whenever convenient kind of thing. I haven't noticed any major differences when dosing at say 2pm before I go out for the afternoon and at 7pm before work.
 
I don't have a weight goal, mostly just wanted to experience the better sleep and less stress with this product. I'm not eating in a deficit or doing any more cardio than usual. I expected to drop some water weight because of cortisol reduction but if this continues I will be very impressed.
If your loosing weight and not in a deficit then it's Making you drop water for sure, or it's also possible your just a little more active than normal and actually in a slight deficit. Either way I'd be happy with it lol
 
Just be careful, when I start weighing myself daily I drive myself crazy lol. I get obsessed with the scale and start forgetting to asses my appearance. It's more so a problem when bulking. Cutting, not so big a deal
I'm familiar with the feeling, I wrestled for four years and then went straight into powerlifting competitively and would weigh myself multiple times a day. When I started bulking I put the scale away in the back of the closet and didn't take it out for probably a year 😂

As far as the weight loss goes I'm sure it's mostly water weight at this point to be down 6 pounds in 9 days. I've ran arimistane for cortisol reduction several times before and while I get a more pronounced visual effect I don't usually see this much weight drop so quickly so it is also certainly possible I am in a little bit of a deficit without knowing it as well. I'll probably assess within the week and determine if I'll up the calories.
 
I'm totally okay with it as long as I don't lose my strength.

A little more detail on my current goals: I'm trying to get back into powerlifting shape again so strength has been all I'm after. I did focus more on hypertrophy and bulk up a bit over the last year, gained almost 20 pounds but have a tiny bit more in the midsection so if I lean out without losing muscle or strength that is optimal. For reference my best ever bench was 305 pounds at 163 bodyweight and my last max out day I got 295 at 185 bodyweight. Just started my strength building phase again and as long as the bench keeps progressing I'm a happy man. This product is supposed to be anti-catabolic so I am assuming that none of the weight lost is muscle.
for that body weight [163] that is a really respectable number-indeed!!!

hope neuro AET helps meet your goal
 
for that body weight [163] that is a really respectable number-indeed!!!

hope neuro AET helps meet your goal
much appreciated! Always wanted to hit a double body weight bench naturally, hit 1.87 so far 😅 we will see how far this extra body weight carries me in the strength department. I’ve run arimistane to reduce cortisol and gotten a bit of performance from that, so far the AET is drying me out like arimistane and without the harsh joint sides so I’m very excited to see where it takes me 😁
 
much appreciated! Always wanted to hit a double body weight bench naturally, hit 1.87 so far 😅 we will see how far this extra body weight carries me in the strength department. I’ve run arimistane to reduce cortisol and gotten a bit of performance from that, so far the AET is drying me out like arimistane and without the harsh joint sides so I’m very excited to see where it takes me 😁
lol, i remember tagging you in the thread by @delsolrob about anti-inflammatory effects of AET...i get really bad sore joint sides from arimistane...AET no problem, and i'm 63.
 
lol, i remember tagging you in the thread by @delsolrob about anti-inflammatory effects of AET...i get really bad sore joint sides from arimistane...AET no problem, and i'm 63.
So far outside of visual effects AET is far ahead of arimistane. Arimistane got me hard and vascular and looking awesome in the mirror but makes my joints hurt, and I feel really amped up all the time which messes with my sleep. AET makes my sleep better, makes my recovery better, and drops more numbers on the scale more quickly.
 
much appreciated! Always wanted to hit a double body weight bench naturally, hit 1.87 so far we will see how far this extra body weight carries me in the strength department. I’ve run arimistane to reduce cortisol and gotten a bit of performance from that, so far the AET is drying me out like arimistane and without the harsh joint sides so I’m very excited to see where it takes me

That’s one of the things I love about AET. The drying without the joint issues. I have enough issues without that.
 
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