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skratch

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Ok let me give a little backround.I did a 3 month cycle a while ago and and went from like 170 to 203 170

im usually around 185-190 I cut to 170 for last summer

Over this winter I bulked up.now I have been sick with the flu for almost 3 months

Im not kidding it wont go away.

I feel ok its just I have a some flem and a little stuffy nose.

I have been taking anti e's to come off my cycle and I rebounded ok I guess (sex drive normal)

So the doctor tells me that my immune system is really bad because of mega low estrogen(I had them test out everything

Im not kidding bros

watch out on your anti es

I never ever get sick and im sick right now and its like 80 out side.
 
Wow, logically it makes sense, but I've never heard of it happening before. Hear something new everyday.
 
That's strange. Some estrogens like 5AD are really great immume boosters, but I don't recall any A-ring aromatics, like estrone or estradiol, aiding immunity. I've seen studies where it hurt immunity though. Also, the anti-e ATD (Rebound) is shown to boost immunity due to inhibition of aromatase. I'd give one or both of these compounds a try. Anadrol also boosts immunity too to a degree, as does DHEA. If I had to guess, I'd say your cortisol may be elevated as a better explaination.
 
I have some 4ad sitting around.Do you think it would be good to take some like every other day to see if that helps out.

I think its a bit of over traning then trying to cut up after cycle and using anti es to recover.

I took nolva and clomid and some syntrax aromazap for about a month.

not all the at the same time I would trow in a little from each ever now and then
 
skratch said:
I have some 4ad sitting around.Do you think it would be good to take some like every other day to see if that helps out.

I think its a bit of over traning then trying to cut up after cycle and using anti es to recover.

I took nolva and clomid and some syntrax aromazap for about a month.

not all the at the same time I would trow in a little from each ever now and then

You can try it. It's not the most effecient molecule for this purpose but I can see how it might help. Reducing cortisol at least and helping in DHT biosynthesis. If it's all you've got, you could pulse it (eod) for a few weeks and see if it helps. I doubt it would hurt.
 
Just thought I'd throw in a little update. Day 17 of a 3 week 20mg/day SD run, and the sick hits again. It is, yet again, strep throat. This makes it 4 for 4.

I'm thinking that this isn't for me any more.
 
MUMatt said:
I'm thinking that this isn't for me any more.

Are you dosing anti-oxidants etc? Vitamin C helps me recover from almost any illness very quickly (then again, most women will agree with me when I tell you that my immune system is probably my best feature...)

-kwantam
 
Deopendig on the steroids u´ve been usinf it might have also been a steroid-fever or a bad immune reaction caused by Boldenone.

Anti-E´s do boost immunity due to their abiltiy to boost LH.

LH is a strong immune-booster.

As far as estogens,I think it´s dose-dependend as it may be with the use of AAS.

A study i´ve seen saw a diminished immune-function,for AAS are thymolytic but a better immune system from day 10 on into the AAS use(maybe due to aromatisation?).
 
MUMatt said:
Just thought I'd throw in a little update. Day 17 of a 3 week 20mg/day SD run, and the sick hits again. It is, yet again, strep throat. This makes it 4 for 4.

I'm thinking that this isn't for me any more.

Kwantam had good advise. Vit.C is a good cheap anti-ox and it acts as an anti-e too at doses over 1g/day. I get good relief from strep w/ Sundown brand fruity punch flavored Zinc lozenges. Sometimes just 1 lozenge totally stops it, and this brand doesn't taste half as nasty as Cold-ezee. If all else fails, a fat shot of pen.G offers the knock-out blow usually.
 
Yeah, I'm on massive doses of penicilin now. They put me on a 20 day cycle. I've got the lovely muscle pain, 102.7 fever, night sweats, etc.

I was taking about 3/4 tsp of k-r-ala a day, 3x LXT, multi vitamin, 2 cups of greens a day, tons of rest, and great clean food. Further, I was taking 12 gels caps of fish oil per day. I really thought if I'd stay healthy on a cycle, I would on this one.
 
MUMatt said:
Yeah, I'm on massive doses of penicilin now. They put me on a 20 day cycle. I've got the lovely muscle pain, 102.7 fever, night sweats, etc.

I was taking about 3/4 tsp of k-r-ala a day, 3x LXT, multi vitamin, 2 cups of greens a day, tons of rest, and great clean food. Further, I was taking 12 gels caps of fish oil per day. I really thought if I'd stay healthy on a cycle, I would on this one.

I am really sorry to hear that my friend. Now that you are sick though, eliminate the multi-vitamin (high in iron), any sources of calcium or magnesium, red meat, simple carbs, and fish oil. They can only antagonize the pen and keep you sick longer at this point.
 
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Yeah... and to add to that... the LXT is another big one.... low cortisol when you are sick? :nono:

Limit all the junk you are taking in man and feel better soon.
 
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