I noticed all the supplement companies have switched their stims to 2-aminoisoheptane HCL. Does anyone still sell fat burners/stims with 1,3DMAA/DMHA?

[StarScream66]

Before you purchase realize they don't put the whole ingredient list up on their website. It also contains 200mg of DMHA and 60mg of DMAA in it as well. Also 50mg of GABA.

50mg of GABA is really nothing. They probably throw that in there to keep the stimulant sides to a minimum or possibly as a GH releasing agent. I've seen a lot of preworkouts as Theacrine and L-Theanine to their formulas for that reason as well.

 

[Joshinator]

Check out defiant unleashed. Its got dmha and acacia rigidula. Its a great stimulant and and tastes awesome too

 

[New guy]

50mg of GABA is really nothing. They probably throw that in there to keep the stimulant sides to a minimum or possibly as a GH releasing agent. I've seen a lot of preworkouts as Theacrine and L-Theanine to their formulas for that reason as well.

Yeah I'm not too concerned with the dose of GABA just wanted to make sure you knew of the large amounts of both DMHA and DMAA in it which they conveniently "forget" to mention apparently. Definitely to avoid getting a warning letter but I'd hate to see some stim newby try it without knowing and feel like he's gonna literally explode. Absolutely don't think you're a stim newb but its worth mentioning regardless. Those doses are a huge selling point for me, its the next pre I want to try.