Smont
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I like turtles
I love RAW EGGS
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Smont
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Idk, do you like egg farts and bad dad jokesI keep seeing this thread pop up but the title never interested me to read it. Is it worth the time to or no?
MrKleen73
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Some decent conversation but the topic has changed multiple times now. However OP was mostly pointing out that the science on eating eggs raw stating the bioavailability was much lower is now in question and there are some good benefits to raw yolks.I keep seeing this thread pop up but the title never interested me to read it. Is it worth the time to or no?
Best case for sunny side up or over easy eggs I have seen in a bit.
Other than that the discussion is about the ADHD nature of people not wanting to invest time in long posts regardless of how much information might be gleaned from them.
Brocodeout69
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Perfectly stated @MrKleen73 & @Resolve10!
Check this article by WebMD on the benefits of eating raw eggs. Invalid Link Removed.
TL;DR crowd:
-Eggs are a super food
-Raw eggs bestow a number of micronutriental benefits (lutein, zeaxanthin, etc.) many of which are destroyed or degraded/decreased by heating/cooking eggs
-You get more bioavailable protein from cooked eggs (disputed)
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MrKleen73
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@Brocodeout69 do you have any other articles regarding this. One thing I noticed in the article is that it kept regarding pasteurized eggs as raw. However they are most definitely heated during the pasteurization, typically to 140f or just below that. which can also justify that in that case they are not raw and enough heat has been through them to start the denaturing of the proteins that make them easier for the body to process. So not sure we can call these Raw eggs so much as perhaps Rare eggs. As a matter of fact if you read the muscle egg information they mention that the pasturization is just enough to have started the denaturation of the egg protein to make them more bioavailable in that form which still LOOKS raw by the fact it is still liquid and not extremely white.
So for specificity sake, where most of the yolk is fat and micronutrients, most of the white is protein and... well protein. So this may be where there is some fall off in the value of raw egg as a whole. yet with further investigation as I mentioned earlier there is something in the yolk that makes the egg white far more bioavailable so if choosing to use raw eggs one should use the whole egg. However using pasteurized egg whites on their own should not be an issue for bioavailability of the protein.
That being said, even though said in a joking matter earlier this sounds like a great reason to consider eating eggs sunny side up or over easy if concerned about getting the best of both worlds. Uncooked yolks for the micronutrient profile but cooked egg white for protein availability. Plus you can sop up the yoke with some toast! MMMMMMMM!!!!!!
So for specificity sake, where most of the yolk is fat and micronutrients, most of the white is protein and... well protein. So this may be where there is some fall off in the value of raw egg as a whole. yet with further investigation as I mentioned earlier there is something in the yolk that makes the egg white far more bioavailable so if choosing to use raw eggs one should use the whole egg. However using pasteurized egg whites on their own should not be an issue for bioavailability of the protein.
That being said, even though said in a joking matter earlier this sounds like a great reason to consider eating eggs sunny side up or over easy if concerned about getting the best of both worlds. Uncooked yolks for the micronutrient profile but cooked egg white for protein availability. Plus you can sop up the yoke with some toast! MMMMMMMM!!!!!!
Brocodeout69
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As usual, thanks for the thoughtful reply.
The article is a bit confusing in that regards. However, in the first paragraph it states:
"If you are consuming raw eggs, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recommends using pasteurized eggs. These eggs have been heated up enough to kill the Salmonella bacteria that was potentially inside."
Meaning if you're going to eat raw eggs, eat raw eggs that have been pasteurized. Meaning, and as you implied, eggs that have been heated prior to retail sale. The USDA requires that all retail establishments that sell eggs must put them through a process of pasteurization prior to commercial sale. Farmers can get an exemption to this.
I have my own chickens for example, so my raw eggs aren't pasteurized. If you would eat raw eggs from say Wal-Mart or Costco, they would be pasteurized. Honestly, the article was very poorly written!
Like you said, theoretically speaking, pasteurized raw eggs would have partially denatured protein and thus with the widely accepted theory, i.e., cooked eggs have more bioavailable protein, they would be better to consume/slonk raw.
Regardless, raw eggs, protein bioavailability aside, do have a number of nutritional benefits, as you said. B-Vitamins for instance are extremely heat sensitive, and thus susceptible to thermal degradation.
The really important thing is to get in the yolks. It is said that the protein in the whites interferes with biotin absorption and that the protein bioavailability in whites is low until cooked—the former is true but outweighed by the biotin content of the yolk; the latter may be true but I have issues with the design of the particular study that is most often Invalid Link Removed.
I love me some sunny-side eggs, and the science is relatively sound for consuming them. Undercook, or raw yolk has an unrivaled, super-food like micronutrient density, while the cooked out layer of the egg white has denatured protein that could be more readily available. Like I said previously, there are a few newer studies (past 2 or so years) which are starting to contradict this notion, i.e., that eggs needed to be heated to increase protein availability. I'll post when I locate them, as I'm actually out and about this evening.
match
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Man, I just read the last like 12 posts and all I can think is... I wanna eat some runny eggs.
And I just ate.
How am I supposed to cut in a month when you guys just make me wanna eat runny eggs and zebra cakes and fruit covered oatmeal and bowls of oreos disguised as cereal??
And I just ate.
How am I supposed to cut in a month when you guys just make me wanna eat runny eggs and zebra cakes and fruit covered oatmeal and bowls of oreos disguised as cereal??
Brocodeout69
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Man, I just read the last like 12 posts and all I can think is... I wanna eat some runny eggs.
And I just ate.
How am I supposed to cut in a month when you guys just make me want to eat runny eggs and zebra cakes and fruit covered oats and bowls of oreos disguised as cereal??
Love it!
When I did Vince Gironda's crazy ass "Hormone Precursor Diet" I was eating 36 raw eggs a day, 2 lb. of lean meat (mostly beef and chicken), and unlimited vegetables and some how, despite exceeding my caloric intake with my TDEE incorporated, I leaned way out. That was honestly what got me on my raw egg kick!
MrKleen73
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Interesting, I did not realize the eggs from the store still in the shell were pasteurized. I assumed the shell protected them from the bacteria up until the point of cracking the shell. The more you know eh...
Brocodeout69
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Yes sir, 100%!
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Pasteurized eggs are gently heated in their shells, just enough to kill the bacteria but not enough to actually cook the egg, making them safe to use in any recipe that calls for uncooked or partially cooked egg.
Brocodeout69
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MrKleen73
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That is some good eating. Notice the green in the avocado there. I have never even cut into one that was hard enough to have white in it still.
Jeremyk1
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How do you eat your raw eggs? I’ve thought about trying them before, but I’m slightly put off by the thought of just drinking eggs.
Brocodeout69
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Good question. I think a lot of people get put off by the potential disgustingness of the texture, but it's not actually bad, in fact, and maybe this is sad, or it says a lot about me, but I've started to prefer it. Let me explain.
I eat anywhere from 6-12 raw eggs a day. I crack open the eggs into my blender, throw in a scoop or two of my favorite protein powder, maybe a little milk (raw and/or pasteurized), and whatever other little goodies/supplements I'm taking currently.
It's always prudent to note to make sure that any additional supplements one is taking, don't negate one and other. For instance, I don't combine calcium with magnesium in the same shake.
I then set the blender to smoothie and then drink. The science on the protein bioavailability is contested, so I make sure to add at least one scoop of a good tasting protein powder. The thickness of the eggs give the protein a good texture, that isn't overpowering at all.
If I'm cutting, I do all of the above with fewer eggs, 86/no milk, protein powder, and water, and it tastes great. I also occasionally throw in berries, vegetables, or whatever and it's very good. If I'm in a hurry, I'll even throw the concoction in my little Ninja Blender and it's still delicious.
I eat anywhere from 6-12 raw eggs a day. I crack open the eggs into my blender, throw in a scoop or two of my favorite protein powder, maybe a little milk (raw and/or pasteurized), and whatever other little goodies/supplements I'm taking currently.
It's always prudent to note to make sure that any additional supplements one is taking, don't negate one and other. For instance, I don't combine calcium with magnesium in the same shake.
I then set the blender to smoothie and then drink. The science on the protein bioavailability is contested, so I make sure to add at least one scoop of a good tasting protein powder. The thickness of the eggs give the protein a good texture, that isn't overpowering at all.
If I'm cutting, I do all of the above with fewer eggs, 86/no milk, protein powder, and water, and it tastes great. I also occasionally throw in berries, vegetables, or whatever and it's very good. If I'm in a hurry, I'll even throw the concoction in my little Ninja Blender and it's still delicious.
Jeremyk1
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Cool thanks! Yeah making a smoothie out of it would probably be really good. Thick and rich! I’ll have to try that sometime.
Oliver Kween
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Smont
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That was my exact cutting dietMan, I just read the last like 12 posts and all I can think is... I wanna eat some runny eggs.
And I just ate.
How am I supposed to cut in a month when you guys just make me wanna eat runny eggs and zebra cakes and fruit covered oatmeal and bowls of oreos disguised as cereal??
lamarclark09
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For the last few days I mixed raw egg in milk and drank it. It's good and very effective for your health.