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Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

@Hyde What are the length of the Grips on you Swiss Bar ?
 
Hyde said:
Idk, 6” approximately? It only says the distance between handles on the spec sheet (10,20,28.5” apart) & diameter.

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Thanks, that is about what mine is, but I wish it was closer to 4". I may cut it apart and narrow it.
 
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Hyde said:
I’m still down a full 6lbs from the 5-day fast (250 -> 244).
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That's awesome, especially with the great bench numbers.
 
3/10/22
BW 244.0

6 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Walking Lunges
Lying Leg Curls

Squat, powerbar
45x5
135,225,315x3
+gateway briefs
365x3
+belt & triple-ply sleeves
405,435,455x3
+squat buddy
485x3

Conventional, stiffbar
+briefs
45,135x5
225,315x3
+hookgrip
385x3
+belt
435,485x3

Hanging Leg Raises
3x10

Hatfield Back Raises on GHR
45x15
90x10
125x15

Really enjoyed playing with the extra supportive gear on squats tonight. Could have pulled another set of deadlifts, but after the extra squat work 485 was slow enough I didn’t want to push my RPE any higher.
 
jtmass said:
Had to look into what a squat buddy is..
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Basically does what a slingshot does for bench. I still had to walk out and handle holding 220kg in position through the entire squat, but I’m probably getting 15kg taken off at the very bottom to help me reverse the weight back up.
 
Hyde said:
GEAR UPDATE:
Bumping cruise to 180mg test e & 120mg primo e/wk. Raising Turkesterone to 5 caps daily (250mg active/day).

I think I need to be realistic about what it’s going to take to best pursue my goals. This still isn’t even 3mg/kg of bodyweight. And if I cruise on a more substantial dosage to retain muscle better, it’s easier not to rush back into an actual blast.



You gotta keep it fun! You have to have some discipline & it’s going to be work sometimes, but if you aren’t enjoying yourself at least now & again then you might as well just take up fishing!
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Wow that's a neat non-methyl stack TRT + primo + Turkesterone.

How is that Turkesterone? Which one did you go with, I was catching up on your log and just curious..
 
PoSiTiVeFLoW said:
Wow that's a neat non-methyl stack TRT + primo + Turkesterone.

How is that Turkesterone? Which one did you go with, I was catching up on your log and just curious..
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Well, so far I seem to be unusually strong for coming back off blast into a cruise, and my achey knee is improving well & maybe the elbow I’ve had mobility issues with for a long time now has slightly improved. Don’t know if it’s all related at all or not. It’s a luxury product.

I am using a combination of Iron Mag Labs and Nutriisa. They have the same profile except the Iron Mag Labs has added Bioperine that seems to give me heartburn unless I take it during a meal. The Nutriisa does not, so I use a combination depending on the time I dose it.
 
Hyde said:
Well, so far I seem to be unusually strong for coming back off blast into a cruise, and my achey knee is improving well & maybe the elbow I’ve had mobility issues with for a long time now has slightly improved. Don’t know if it’s all related at all or not. It’s a luxury product.

I am using a combination of Iron Mag Labs and Nutriisa. They have the same profile except the Iron Mag Labs has added Bioperine that seems to give me heartburn unless I take it during a meal. The Nutriisa does not, so I use a combination depending on the time I dose it.
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Awesome. I just discovered Nutriissa as a brand, their Cycle Support which is better then CEL complex and includes TUDCA (way less smelly, herbal gag factor too). Excited to try the Hi-Tech Turkesterone - hear similar things about strengh/apetite/joint benefits. Their Hi-Tech andros with the liposomal, or azine, tech work well and their Melatonin does too. Although, Bioperine based supps I've used also tend to work well for bioavailability, uptake reasons too.

Excited to run perhaps base TRT + Trena-V + Turkesterone (or perhaps) TRT + 17a-andro + Turkesterone then, throw some Iconic Thermoamp do extra rowing machine, basketball with kids, and other painful core cardio before family vacation 4/20... LGI Mecha warmup, going very well - TY again.

The initial getting strong + adding muscle + getting a pump part I can now do, but the whole getting lead/shred / cutting and getting striation, well that's knew for a former tall-ish ectomorph (basketball, v-ball, runner type) who was ever just trying to gain weight until the tire appeared.. I could also throw 3-Ad or Hexadrone and the Turk together. Interesting, the new non-methyl stacking options to get lean/hard/strong.

Though for things to try, while slowly working on the quality of muscle.. also have Anavar or Mast E yet to try - where TRT + Mast E + Turk would be similar to your primo combo here?

Well time to sleep, to get in an AM session, need to get the lost 20+ lbs back.
 
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3/13/22
BW 245.0

12 min cycle
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Rear Delt Flyes
Rotators

Widegrip Bench
45,95,135x15
185 2x25 tied PR while 10lbs lighter

Lat Pulldown warmups
88x15
121,165x10 underhand

V-Grip Chins
245x14,12

One-arm DB Rows
50,80x8
100,120x12

Reverse Peck Deck
100 warmup
150x12,12,11 PR

ss w/ Peck Deck
140,180,220x16

Plate Raise Overhead
45x12,10,10,8

Shoulder Stretching

Got up bright & early to spot the wife - she squat 275x3 on the axle. Then off to a small powerlifting meet in town to backspot for squats, & sidespot for a couple heavy benchers. Good fun & nobody got hurt - wife brought the boy to watch squats. Then my son’s gymnastics again, this time I watched from the balcony. Lastly, to the gym!

Despite all the activities, I had excellent training: tied a rep widegrip PR from on blast, chin-ups getting strong again while heavier than the last period I trained them, & into new territory on the rear delt machine.

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^My son catching some sweet air on the trampoline
 
3/14/22

8 min walk
Bird Dogs
Foam Roll
Side Planks

GHR, easier setting
2x12

Hacksquat
Empty,90,180,270,320x10
370x21 PR

GHR, harder setting
2x12, 1x15

Stir the Pot
18/side straight thru

Back to being able to do GHR without pain in my knee, and an entire 5 more reps with 10 more lbs on the work set of hacks over last week. Yeah buddy!
 
Jeebus. Way to kill yourself.
 
Holy crap your wife has gotten stronger! Wow! And you (and others) almost make me wish I had children. .

What’s up with some of the volume work you’re doing, like the sets of 25, 21 x 185 lbs on bench?

What’s the difference with the stiff bar for deadlifts? Is that like 32mm?

Good stuff.
 
jinxie said:
Holy crap your wife has gotten stronger! Wow! And you (and others) almost make me wish I had children. .

What’s up with some of the volume work you’re doing, like the sets of 25, 21 x 185 lbs on bench?

What’s the difference with the stiff bar for deadlifts? Is that like 32mm?

Good stuff.
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Just a trick to build some muscle very specifically where it’s useful on bench. Gets a second weekly benching in without the same injury risks or wear & tear as heavier bench work. Swede is a fan of it in his 5th Set methodology for the second pressing day, and I have personally found it tends to be useful for my bench as well, more than most other pec-focused exercises. Now if you mean the hacksquat set of 21, the benefits of widowmaker-type thigh work are fairly renowned.

A stiff bar would be any normal bar you’d find, probably 28-29mm diameter, next to no flexion. A deadlift bar is only 27mm so it’s easier to get your fingers around to hookgrip when you have smaller hands, and generally more aggressive knurling so it’s easier to hang onto. A deadlift bar will also flex a bit at the middle with heavier loads before the weight comes off the ground, so you can start the pull in a slightly more advantageous position. If you aren’t pulling at least 300lbs on it, it’s not going to make much difference because the weight is too light to cause almost any perceptible flexing, but it will be easier to hang on & it can make a real difference at higher weights. It’s going to be the equipment of choice at most serious powerlifting competitions. Strongman, it just totally depends on what the promoter has available.
 
3/16/22

Cycle 6 min
Bird Dogs
Band Warmup

Bench
45,95,145,195,245,260,275,290x5
305x4+1 fail near the top

Just didn’t have it today. Amazing how easy 320x3 was last week, but today couldn’t quite manage 305x5. An advertisement came blasting over my earbuds before rep 3 & I became very distracted. I also suppose I was fresher last week, and the weights I lifted then probably affected my preparedness now some as well.

Still, managed to increase the density of weight over my 5x5 by a good 20-25% over last time I did 5s. I was totally drained afterwards, so I bagged it.
 
Hyde said:
Just a trick to build some muscle very specifically where it’s useful on bench. Gets a second weekly benching in without the same injury risks or wear & tear as heavier bench work. Swede is a fan of it in his 5th Set methodology for the second pressing day, and I have personally found it tends to be useful for my bench as well, more than most other pec-focused exercises. Now if you mean the hacksquat set of 21, the benefits of widowmaker-type thigh work are fairly renowned.

A stiff bar would be any normal bar you’d find, probably 28-29mm diameter, next to no flexion. A deadlift bar is only 27mm so it’s easier to get your fingers around to hookgrip when you have smaller hands, and generally more aggressive knurling so it’s easier to hang onto. A deadlift bar will also flex a bit at the middle with heavier loads before the weight comes off the ground, so you can start the pull in a slightly more advantageous position. If you aren’t pulling at least 300lbs on it, it’s not going to make much difference because the weight is too light to cause almost any perceptible flexing, but it will be easier to hang on & it can make a real difference at higher weights. It’s going to be the equipment of choice at most serious powerlifting competitions. Strongman, it just totally depends on what the promoter has available.
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Sorta reminds me of Layne's old PHAT routine. Power and Hypertrophy. it's been a few years, but basically 4 day split, 2 days were high weight (upper/lower) and two days were high volume IIRC (upper/lower etc)
 
Dustin07 said:
Sorta reminds me of Layne's old PHAT routine. Power and Hypertrophy. it's been a few years, but basically 4 day split, 2 days were high weight (upper/lower) and two days were high volume IIRC (upper/lower etc)
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Yeah I’d say 4 days/wk of upper/lower split that incorporates both strength & hypertrophy ranges is fairly standard amongst Western strength training, with the strong bodybuilding heritage here.
 
been thinking about your higher volume day followed by the miss on bench. do you think it's time for a deload, more food, more sleep, or just an off day? i feel like my best day is always followed by my worst.
 
Dustin07 said:
been thinking about your higher volume day followed by the miss on bench. do you think it's time for a deload, more food, more sleep, or just an off day? i feel like my best day is always followed by my worst.
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Yeah every third week is a deload, so next week the main lifts will just be technical. The first week back I am always stronger, and if I push the RPE higher like I did most of the days it’s usually going to affect the second week (this week). Plus the time change, and all the kickass stuff I’ve done Saturday-Monday. It all jives, no biggie.

I have felt last couple days I needed more food and sleep than I’ve had to recover, but they aren’t possible. Like I’m eating plenty to maintain weight (even looking extra bloated) & getting about 8 hours sleep average; I would just theoretically need to be turning over more calories to sustain a higher rate of recovery.

Also, this Super Cardarine seriously turns over glucose hardcore. I think I will drop it as soon as I know my lipids are back in order & save the rest; it’s just impossible to stay muscularly full or keep blood sugar elevated for long. Unless you are on orals/Trest/tren, it’s really hard to keep the muscles full/fueled/hydrated.
 
Hyde said:
Yeah every third week is a deload, so next week the main lifts will just be technical. The first week back I am always stronger, and if I push the RPE higher like I did most of the days it’s usually going to affect the second week (this week). Plus the time change, and all the kickass stuff I’ve done Saturday-Monday. It all jives, no biggie.

I have felt last couple days I needed more food and sleep than I’ve had to recover, but they aren’t possible. Like I’m eating plenty to maintain weight (even looking extra bloated) & getting about 8 hours sleep average; I would just theoretically need to be turning over more calories to sustain a higher rate of recovery.

Also, this Super Cardarine seriously turns over glucose hardcore. I think I will drop it as soon as I know my lipids are back in order & save the rest; it’s just impossible to stay muscularly full or keep blood sugar elevated for long. Unless you are on orals/Trest/tren, it’s really hard to keep the muscles full/fueled/hydrated.
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Victor Black reckons telmisartan acts similarly to cardarine so if he is correct and you are running both maybe you are dosing the card too high?
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
Victor Black reckons telmisartan acts similarly to cardarine so if he is correct and you are running both maybe you are dosing the card too high?
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Dropped the Telly after the blast when I began my 5-day fast.

They are both PPAR agonists, but that’s where the comparisons would end for me. This Super Cardarine isn’t even like regular GW imo; like I said it’s extremely tough to get enough carbs pre/intra to keep up with training done early in the morning when I don’t have a couple meals under me. I have only ever used either of the GWs at 10mg per day.
 
@BennyMagoo79 if I didn’t mention it to you though before, I really loved Telmisartan and always plan to use it for blasts. It made such a huge difference in preventing excess water retention/edema (stuff guys would normally probably take an AI for to knock off water, but the root issue is the Angiotensin Receptor activation from the AAS).
 
Hyde said:
@BennyMagoo79 if I didn’t mention it to you though before, I really loved Telmisartan and always plan to use it for blasts. It made such a huge difference in preventing excess water retention/edema (stuff guys would normally probably take an AI for to knock off water, but the root issue is the Angiotensin Receptor activation from the AAS).
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I need this when I tried MK
 
3/17/22
BW 246.0

6 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Glute Bridges
BW Squats

Back Extensions
2x16

Squat
45 2x5
135,225,275,315,345x5
+belt
375,405x5

Conventional, stiffbar
135,225,315x5
+hookgrip
365
+straps & belt
415,460x5

Tonight was brutal. Decided to rest as long as it took, cranked the music hard AF & made the decision to try to get better. Right pec insert even was starting to strain on the final rep of deadlift so I dropped it on the way back down, but I dodged the bullet. Another day, another brick laid.
 
Wife let me sleep in today after squat/deads last night as a surprise; she got my son ready for & off to daycare solo & called to wake me just in time to get up for work - clocked 9 hours of sleep. Now that’s true love! ️
 
Hyde said:
Wife let me sleep in today after squat/deads last night as a surprise; she got my son ready for & off to daycare solo & called to wake me just in time to get up for work - clocked 9 hours of sleep. Now that’s true love! ️
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She’s a kind god
 
Hyde said:
Wife let me sleep in today after squat/deads last night as a surprise; she got my son ready for & off to daycare solo & called to wake me just in time to get up for work - clocked 9 hours of sleep. Now that’s true love! ️
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Sleep is anabolic, and a good women is hard to find !! Lucky Man !!
 
Well, throat started bothering me yesterday afternoon, also felt whipped but initially assumed it was from having to push so hard on squats & deads. Then last night hacked up yellow phlegm, and again this morning.

Ahhhh, fathering a toddler in daycare
 
Hyde said:
Well, throat started bothering me yesterday afternoon, also felt whipped but initially assumed it was from having to push so hard on squats & deads. Then last night hacked up yellow phlegm, and again this morning.

Ahhhh, fathering a toddler in daycare
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Definitely some icky going around right now. Not particularly sick, just ick. This is the new normal lol.
 
SkRaw85 said:
How’s that primo feeling so far?
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Started primo on the 19th (I do all my primo in one shot on Saturdays), so just now reaching peak plasma concentrations after a month.

My skin has been oily, more acne than expected on cruise, but I haven’t used an AI because I want my lipids and joints to get all the support I can give them. So far, no low e2 concerns remotely. If anything I may yet need an AI if I don’t alter the dosage combo to 150/150. I am pulling lipids & cbc in 2 weeks to re-check lipids and also see how blood parameters are responding to this combo.

I would have to say 180/120 test/primo combo feels fairly potent: absolutely feel like this is a hotrod cruise. A big part is probably that I only need 120mg of this brand’s test e to be around 1,000ng/dl trough, so I wouldn’t put that feeling on the primo necessarily, which many say they can’t “feel” at all, other than well-being. I have not noticed any good feels, and in general have felt more irritable lately, especially in traffic. I never react to the impulse, but I am constantly bugged by all the unsafe drivers blasting around here.
 
Grabbed a little PR today in the garage while playing with my son:

EZBar Curls
17,17,37,67,87,112x10 PR

Also did some proper gripper work with each hand for the first time - just got the #2 & #3 grippers from Grip Genie & they are suh-weet!🧞‍♂️

Cheapo gripper x10
Grip Genie #2 x5,6,4
 
Hyde said:
Well, throat started bothering me yesterday afternoon, also felt whipped but initially assumed it was from having to push so hard on squats & deads. Then last night hacked up yellow phlegm, and again this morning.

Ahhhh, fathering a toddler in daycare
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Little germ factories!!
 
Hyde said:
Grabbed a little PR today in the garage while playing with my son:

EZBar Curls
17,17,37,67,87,112x10 PR

Also did some proper gripper work with each hand for the first time - just got the #2 & #3 grippers from Grip Genie & they are suh-weet!🧞‍♂️

Cheapo gripper x10
Grip Genie #2 x5,6,4
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The Good Grippers do make a difference !
 
Have you tried astragalus for an immune system boost? I've read it can increase white blood cell count and people have confirmed it with labs.
 
f4iguy said:
Have you tried astragalus for an immune system boost? I've read it can increase white blood cell count and people have confirmed it with labs.
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Good shout there for those who don’t use it; it’s actually already a year round staple for me at ~3,400mg/day split over 2 doses for the enhanced kidney care. My white blood cells usually hang around 5.6, unless I am sick in which case they’ll be higher obviously.

I mainly just double my zinc & NAC and up my selenium, maybe take some big doses of curcumin, & say a prayer for the best. Maybe add some extra glutamine in.
 
3/20/22

10 min walk
Cable Warmup

Bench, various grips
45,95,115x10
135 5x5

Max Incline OHP Lockouts from Pins (6-7” ROM)
-hole 14
45,95,145,195,235,275x5
300x1 PR

Underhand Lat Pulldown Warmups
55,55,88,110,165,209x5-10

V-Grip Chins
BW (245+) x16 PR
BW x13.5

One-arm DB Row
70,100x8
+straps
120x16

Reverse Pec Deck
Warmups
160x12,10,9 PR

CG Push-ups
25,17

Gymnastics with my son a couple hours before this one had me decently mobilized. He is such a blast! Elbow ROM was really bothering me; couldn’t touch without pain at the bottom really on any bench width so even 135 was torture. Still, got some blood in the pec with the minor strain and it held 135 no pain or issue.

Still, really awesome day. Lots of various PRs. Had a great fight on the 300lb lockout, heaviest rear delt flyes on machine ever, and chin-ups were awesome.
 
Hyde said:
Started primo on the 19th (I do all my primo in one shot on Saturdays), so just now reaching peak plasma concentrations after a month.

My skin has been oily, more acne than expected on cruise, but I haven’t used an AI because I want my lipids and joints to get all the support I can give them. So far, no low e2 concerns remotely. If anything I may yet need an AI if I don’t alter the dosage combo to 150/150. I am pulling lipids & cbc in 2 weeks to re-check lipids and also see how blood parameters are responding to this combo.

I would have to say 180/120 test/primo combo feels fairly potent: absolutely feel like this is a hotrod cruise. A big part is probably that I only need 120mg of this brand’s test e to be around 1,000ng/dl trough, so I wouldn’t put that feeling on the primo necessarily, which many say they can’t “feel” at all, other than well-being. I have not noticed any good feels, and in general have felt more irritable lately, especially in traffic. I never react to the impulse, but I am constantly bugged by all the unsafe drivers blasting around here.
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Very good! Probably qualifies as a hot rod cruise lol. Are you pinning test sub Q with more frequency or just splitting dose 2x per week? I noticed sust sub Q eod was my sweet spot for cruise in terms of sides.

Test or no test, road rage and rood rage are one in the same. Fuggin non drivers on the road everywhere!!!!!!
 
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