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HOWS MY CYCLE? MY FIRST ONE EVER!!!

jfuller

jfuller

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This is my first cycle I have really done, the most Hard core supplement I have taken was 6 years ago and it was only 1-ad. I loved that stuff. Wish I still could get it!
I am curious if I have my stack and PCT right.

EPISTANE TUES WED FRI SAT
WEEK1 10/20/30/30
WEEK2 30/40/40/40
WEEK3 40/40/40/40
WEEK4 40/40/40/40
WEEK5 40/40/30/30
WEEK6 30/30/20/10

Every day I will be taking
tribulus 1200mg- MORNING AND NIGHT
fish oil- 3 caps
hawthorne berry
cycle support- MORNING AND NIGHT
topical formestane (On days 1x AT night, OFF days morning and night)
igf-2 at night
DHEA- off days only

PCT
TRIBULUS 1200MG, decrease for 4 weeks
fish oil
hawthorne berry
post cycle support
t-911
DHEA

How does this look, should I change anything? PLEASE LET ME KNOW, I start it in 2 days. :duel:
 
Ummm, if you've used 1-AD, this isn't really considered your first cycle... :think:
1-AD converts to 1-Testosterone, which of course is an isomer of testosterone.
So yeah, this isn't your first steroid. ;)
You want to Pulse, but you are dosing 4 times a week? Hopefully, you've read Dr.D's Pulse Cycle Thread...
To be honest with you, Epistane is so mild that I would recommend that you straight dose it. No need in skipping around, grab the bull and run!
You PCT is lacking anything to help with HPTA regulation. Recommendation: Get Sustain Alpha or a SERM (if you can without asking where to get it).
 
Zero V said:
^^^ It was only 1-AD silly:jester: :lol:

But ^^^ hit it on the head.
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the old and original 1-ad was a very potent andro made by ergo-pharm. not the current one made by AMS. two totally different things. old 1-ad has been banned for some time now.
 
Iron Lungz said:
Ummm, if you've used 1-AD, this isn't really considered your first cycle... :think:
1-AD converts to 1-Testosterone, which of course is an isomer of testosterone.
So yeah, this isn't your first steroid. ;)
You want to Pulse, but you are dosing 4 times a week? Hopefully, you've read Dr.D's Pulse Cycle Thread...
To be honest with you, Epistane is so mild that I would recommend that you straight dose it. No need in skipping around, grab the bull and run!
You PCT is lacking anything to help with HPTA regulation. Recommendation: Get Sustain Alpha or a SERM (if you can without asking where to get it).
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I use to take the ergo-pharm 1-AD, it was not a steroid at the time. It was great stuff, I didnt use any pct at all with it..prob dumb.:bigeyes:

I did read DR.D pulse cycle thread. Maybe I misunderstood it, but he had two types of pulse cycles, a 3x a week cycle and 4X a week cycle. I was doing the 4 since I lift 5 days a week. I just dont want to decrease my chance of getting side effects as much as possible.

What is HPTA? dOES NUTRAWORLD carry Sustain Alha? I cant get a serm.
 
alwaysgaining said:
SERM. yer going from 50mg to stoping .... and no SERM u most deff will have sides epi is a real, active steroid.
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It is real hard for me to obtain a serm for my rats. Maybe I should just go to 40mg, then go back down to 30 mg the week after then start PCT?
Would that be better?
 
I just looked up sustain alpha, looks like good stuff, Can I use formestane, sustain alpha, AND t-911, and AI post cycle therapy together for my PCT??????????
 
jfuller said:
I use to take the ergo-pharm 1-AD, it was not a steroid at the time. It was great stuff, I didnt use any pct at all with it..prob dumb.:bigeyes:

I did read DR.D pulse cycle thread. Maybe I misunderstood it, but he had two types of pulse cycles, a 3x a week cycle and 4X a week cycle. I was doing the 4 since I lift 5 days a week. I just dont want to decrease my chance of getting side effects as much as possible.

What is HPTA? dOES NUTRAWORLD carry Sustain Alha? I cant get a serm.
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1-AD was and IS a steriod, regardless of what year it was out.
Also, please research HPTA function before starting your cycle.
And NutraPlanet has Sustain Alpha; however, it's highly recommended that you postpone your cycle until to have ALL the information that is needed before throwing your homeostasis for a loop that's for the worse.
 
hey hows it going im about to start a cycle of m-rol and was wondering mainly of what should i take after my cycle?? like which products with the names do you recommend?? should i be taking something while on my cycle?? i would be thankful for your info
 
Any previous cycles?
Age? Lifting experience?
M-Drol isn't one that I would recommend starting out with; it's highly taxing, and should be regarded as extremely harsh if your not careful.
And yes, you will need to pre-load, ON/OFF cycle protection, and a strong PCT that includes a SERM. I would like to have answers to the questions that I raised, though.
vismusic2003 said:
hey hows it going im about to start a cycle of m-rol and was wondering mainly of what should i take after my cycle?? like which products with the names do you recommend?? should i be taking something while on my cycle?? i would be thankful for your info
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i have taken m-drol before and i have a pretty high level of lifting experience. im just looking to see what products i should be taking after my cycle because i see all the reviews and it just confuses me i guess. what products do you recommend (whats their name) and how should they be taken after my m-drol cycle! i just dont want to waste any money and just want to get to the main source pretty much. thanks
 
What was your set-up last time then? And how old are you?
vismusic2003 said:
i have taken m-drol before and i have a pretty high level of lifting experience. im just looking to see what products i should be taking after my cycle because i see all the reviews and it just confuses me i guess. what products do you recommend (whats their name) and how should they be taken after my m-drol cycle! i just dont want to waste any money and just want to get to the main source pretty much. thanks
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im 27 years old last time i just took the m-drol with just a liver support after it. i hear now that i need all this SERM and pct stuff. basicly i just want to know the right products to take and how to took it correctly to prevent side effects. i have cycle assist right now the same company that makes the m-drol.
 
So you're wanting to know what supplements to take with, during and after? For M-Drol, I always recommend using a SERM; however how and where you get that is on your own. Hint: Google.com
Also, here's a great read... http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/66113-no-excuses-no.html
vismusic2003 said:
im 27 years old last time i just took the m-drol with just a liver support after it. i hear now that i need all this SERM and pct stuff. basicly i just want to know the right products to take and how to took it correctly to prevent side effects. i have cycle assist right now the same company that makes the m-drol.
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should i take anything during? mainly i was looking for what i should be taking after. post cycle tab? cycle assist? serm-novac seems to be popular? i dont want to be taking to many things at once.
 
Ok, I have did more research and it looks like the safest PCT is a SERM, which I have heard a lot about, I just am not comfortable buying something that is illegal or used for rats, I am sure there are good SERMS out there, but to know what companies to buy from that are legit is hard to find. I would like to get Toremifene – 40mg/day for my rats, but like I said, not sure what a good company is after googling it.
 
Did you not read the thread that I directed you to?
And to be honest, you are NOT ready to cycle.
If you do not even know the basic concepts of running a cycle, then I suggest you read, read, then read some more.
vismusic2003 said:
okay i bought the nova today now my question is how do it take it??? do i take it after my m-drol cycle??
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OK, How is this......My new stack..I feel like I have a lot in my PCT, BUT I just want to not use a SERM if possible, I will have it just in case..PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I SHOULD CHANGE ANYTHING.

EPISTANE TUES WED FRI SAT
WEEK1 10/20/30/30
WEEK2 30/40/40/40
WEEK3 40/40/40/40
WEEK4 40/40/40/40
WEEK5 40/40/40/40
WEEK6 40/40/40/40

Every day I will be taking

fish oil- 3 caps
hawthorne berry
cycle support- MORNING AND NIGHT
DHEA- off days only

PCT
topical formestane
fish oil
hawthorne berry
post cycle support
t-911
Lean Xtreme
igf-2 (MORNIG AND NIGHT)
Sustain ALPHA
SERM JUST IN CASE
 
I think you have too many AIs in your PCT go with formestane or t-911 and the sustain alpha. You want to control estro, not obliterate it. You could have possible rebound problems with this, and most likely no libido what so ever.

Edit: If you decide to run the SERM as your main component instead, still only pick one AI. Epi isn't that harsh and your pulsing as it is...Personally I think you should run the SERM to be safe. Especially going from 40mg to stopping.
 
ktatro1 said:
I think you have too many AIs in your PCT go with formestane or t-911 and the sustain alpha. You want to control estro, not obliterate it. You could have possible rebound problems with this, and most likely no libido what so ever.

Edit: If you decide to run the SERM as your main component instead, still only pick one AI. Epi isn't that harsh and your pulsing as it is...Personally I think you should run the SERM to be safe. Especially going from 40mg to stopping.
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Thanks a bunch for the info!! I will take the formestane out.
I just want to make sure I read your post right, So T-911 AND Sustain alpha are ok together if I try PCT without a SERM?


One other question, I just got notice that I will be leaving in 3.5 weeks, so I am going to wait on the epi cycle, I was going to go ahead and take the formestane and igf-2 for 4 weeks since I already have it. After that, is it ok to start the epi cycle, or should I wait a month in between.
 
i read the article and here is what i have come up with for my m-drol cycle.Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support, i force reversitol, animal stak by universal,nolvadex..... during my cycle i will be taking the powderd cycle support with my protein mix! for my pct it will include 20mg of nolvadex,reversitol at 3-3-2-1,cycle support, and the animal pack. how does that look?? also in my last week on the m-drol is when i will start the animal stack
 
vismusic2003 said:
i have taken m-drol before and i have a pretty high level of lifting experience. im just looking to see what products i should be taking after my cycle because i see all the reviews and it just confuses me i guess. what products do you recommend (whats their name) and how should they be taken after my m-drol cycle! i just dont want to waste any money and just want to get to the main source pretty much. thanks
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google superdrol for dummies, first thread outlines terrificly
 
jfuller said:
Thanks a bunch for the info!! I will take the formestane out.
I just want to make sure I read your post right, So T-911 AND Sustain alpha are ok together if I try PCT without a SERM?


One other question, I just got notice that I will be leaving in 3.5 weeks, so I am going to wait on the epi cycle, I was going to go ahead and take the formestane and igf-2 for 4 weeks since I already have it. After that, is it ok to start the epi cycle, or should I wait a month in between.
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If you run it without the SERM that seems ok, I would wait till around week 2 of your sustain alpha to begin t-911 though, this should help combat estro rebound. Also from weeks 2-6 of PCT you should be tapering the dosing of t-911. which t-911 do you have (the main ingredient is either Androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one, or a derivitive of 6,7 bromo I think)?

Don't know about the other question, Ask Iron Lungz or the guys over at the IBE Forum about the Formex.
 
ktatro1 said:
If you run it without the SERM that seems ok, I would wait till around week 2 of your sustain alpha to begin t-911 though, this should help combat estro rebound. Also from weeks 2-6 of PCT you should be tapering the dosing of t-911. which t-911 do you have (the main ingredient is either Androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one, or a derivitive of 6,7 bromo I think)?

Don't know about the other question, Ask Iron Lungz or the guys over at the IBE Forum about the Formex.
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I have not ordered the t-911 yet. I was finalizing the stack and PCT before buying it all. Which T-911 should I get?

Thanks for the info, very helpful :laugh2:
 
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