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How to add Pp products to you Anti-Aging Medicines.

kisaj said:
Hey, some of us have it and some of us don't!

But really, I know you only posted to give ****, but I don't care. I have no reason to tell any of you that I happened to notice my nuts are back, other than they are back. I realize it doesn't make a lot of sense, otherwise it wouldn't be worth noting. My doc even asked if I decided to start hcg on my own a few weeks back when I went in for an annual.
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I was just playing...

I believe you and think that its great you bounced back exceptionally well.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
I was just playing...

I believe you and think that its great you bounced back exceptionally well.

-Matt
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Matt or HTS, do you guys have any data on average reduction of estrogen/cortisol for erase? I'm picking some up tomorrow. Reason I'm asking is that my estradiol was high normal on my last set of labs. I understand everyones response will be different, but I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect.

Thanks in advance,
 
napalm said:
Matt or HTS, do you guys have any data on average reduction of estrogen/cortisol for erase? I'm picking some up tomorrow. Reason I'm asking is that my estradiol was high normal on my last set of labs. I understand everyones response will be different, but I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect.

Thanks in advance,
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Great question; I'm interested in this too. What about using Triazole in place of Erase for this purpose? I have 3 new bottles that I haven't used yet!
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
Erase is much better in my opinion....erase pro being the best (OTC )....i stocked up on the stuff
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Better because Erase is more effective at suppressing estrogen? I remember an interview on SHR in which he owner of Driven Sports said that early in-house testing indicated that Triazole suppressed an average of approxx 40% of estrogen. Anyone have similar stats/opinions on the average percentage one can expect Erase (or Erase Pro) to suppress estrogen?
 
napalm said:
Matt or HTS, do you guys have any data on average reduction of estrogen/cortisol for erase? I'm picking some up tomorrow. Reason I'm asking is that my estradiol was high normal on my last set of labs. I understand everyones response will be different, but I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect.

Thanks in advance,
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I'm neither of the guys you referenced, but I had land done where my estradiol was 47pg/ml, then did 4 weeks @ 2 caps of erase ED and it went down to 11.
 
lboston said:
I'm neither of the guys you referenced, but I had land done where my estradiol was 47pg/ml, then did 4 weeks @ 2 caps of erase ED and it went down to 11.
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*labs...d@mn auto type
 
lboston said:
I'm neither of the guys you referenced, but I had land done where my estradiol was 47pg/ml, then did 4 weeks @ 2 caps of erase ED and it went down to 11.
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That's the kinda info I'm looking for, thanks!
 
Ninjo said:
Better because Erase is more effective at suppressing estrogen? I remember an interview on SHR in which he owner of Driven Sports said that early in-house testing indicated that Triazole suppressed an average of approxx 40% of estrogen. Anyone have similar stats/opinions on the average percentage one can expect Erase (or Erase Pro) to suppress estrogen?
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I suppose for myself personally, having used both. Didn't really see the same AI effect from triazole, but I only used it once or twice and used erase/EP several times each. at least lboston got some bloods done to prove erase is effective (& EP has to be better since on cap of EP is equivalent to 3 caps erase, plus additional anti-estrogen ingredients on top of that). maybe someone will chime in with results from using triazole. My doctor won't test for estrogen so I have to do that myself if I want those #'s :D. (I think I can convince him to test for it next time now that I will be on TRT, and I can stress the aromatization concern to him...hopefully he understands what that means...)
 
That sounds right based on my seat of the pants testing I've done with Erase. I loved the stuff before TRT and even more so now.
 
I can take 3-4-5 erase (or 2 EP per day) w/o any joint issues as well...so I probably have sky high estrogen. maybe i can get it tested one day? one can dream :D
 
lboston said:
*labs...d@mn auto type
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LMFAO! I shut it off the other day, it was pissing me off for months....the I realized it wasn't gonna finish the words I WANT it to finish either LOL! so I "put it back on" not soon after, with my lazy not wanting to type it all out ass :D
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
LMFAO! I shut it off the other day, it was pissing me off for months....the I realized it wasn't gonna finish the words I WANT it to finish either LOL! so I "put it back on" not soon after, with my lazy not wanting to type it all out ass :D
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I feel ya man. It's like a woman. You depend on it, but it drives you freaking crazy!
 
napalm said:
Matt or HTS, do you guys have any data on average reduction of estrogen/cortisol for erase? I'm picking some up tomorrow. Reason I'm asking is that my estradiol was high normal on my last set of labs. I understand everyones response will be different, but I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect.

Thanks in advance,
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I don't and I doubt that Matt does. I would check with a PES rep.
 
MattPorter said:
Yea...

NOt exactly healthy .... but the product works!

-Matt
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Damn, thats a shame. Perhaps I should cut it back next time when using it. That was at EOD dosing also, I believe.
 
lboston said:
Damn, thats a shame. Perhaps I should cut it back next time when using it. That was at EOD dosing also, I believe.
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You were taking it EOD? How many caps? Mine should be here in a couple days. My LDL is where I want it, it was like >130 before trt and 107 currently. Cholesterol down from 270 to 209. I'd like to not screw these up.
 
napalm said:
You were taking it EOD? How many caps? Mine should be here in a couple days. My LDL is where I want it, it was like >130 before trt and 107 currently. Cholesterol down from 270 to 209. I'd like to not screw these up.
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Every other day at 2 caps per day.
 
kisaj said:
Well, I swear by Erase and have a 3 month check coming in two weeks, so I am going to get tested.
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Cool, do you know what your e2/cortisol was prior to erase?
 
Update -I have already posted our latest AndroLEAN testers James post cycle bloods which actually showed increased T levels.I will now soon have our 3rd AndroLEAN testers bloods back to see if he also will have elevated T levels immediately post cycle.The ingredients in AndroLean could be indirectly raising T levels from dropping estrogen, cortisol, and dht....I should have his bloods back by the end of this month-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
Update -I have already posted our latest AndroLEAN testers James post cycle bloods which actually showed increased T levels.I will now soon have our 3rd AndroLEAN testers bloods back to see if he also will have elevated T levels immediately post cycle.The ingredients in AndroLean could be indirectly raising T levels from dropping estrogen, cortisol, and dht....I should have his bloods back by the end of this month-Matt
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Really looking forward to this!
 
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