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How long do you break between PH/PS cycles?

time between PS/PH cycles

  • 2 weeks

    Votes: 13 6.7%
  • 1 month

    Votes: 46 23.7%
  • 2 months

    Votes: 83 42.8%
  • other

    Votes: 52 26.8%

  • Total voters
    194
I'm going to do:

3weeks of Epi+ 3weeks of Torem
6 week off
4 weeks Epi+ 4 weeks Torem
6 weeks off
4 weeks SD/PP+ 4 weeks Torem
4 months off

6 weeks off is 6 weeks off after PCT is finished.

I'm not 100% sure if I will do a SD/PP cycle, but if not it will be another 4 weeker of something a bit stronger then Epi, unless I get good gains on my 2nd Epi cycle.

How does that look?
 
I'm on #3 and took 6 months off between each one.
 
I also always hear time off + PCT=time off! This usually means 8 weeks off I assume.

My question is....what am I to do to overcome the boredom during the time off. Does this mean I should stay off supps like Activate Extreme, 6-0x0, Jungle warfare, Recreate, Leviathon etc. These are all supps I am excited to try and wanted to try during time off!! Am I supposed to only use protein & creatine while off?

What about professional athletes and Pro bodybuilders...do they follow this protocol...I think they are always on!:aargh:
 
I also always hear time off + PCT=time off! This usually means 8 weeks off I assume.

My question is....what am I to do to overcome the boredom during the time off. Does this mean I should stay off supps like Activate Extreme, 6-0x0, Jungle warfare, Recreate, Leviathon etc. These are all supps I am excited to try and wanted to try during time off!! Am I supposed to only use protein & creatine while off?

What about professional athletes and Pro bodybuilders...do they follow this protocol...I think they are always on!:aargh:

if you do 4 weeks it means 4 weeks of PCT,and 8 weeks off.Try those test boosting supps during your PCT and you can continue them after PCT as well.If you are doing nolva and activate extreme for PCT,continue the activate for a month or so afterwards.Now you have one month of nothing to mess with your hormones before you go back on.I have found the wait gets easier with each time.
 
if you do 4 weeks it means 4 weeks of PCT,and 8 weeks off.Try those test boosting supps during your PCT and you can continue them after PCT as well.If you are doing nolva and activate extreme for PCT,continue the activate for a month or so afterwards.Now you have one month of nothing to mess with your hormones before you go back on.I have found the wait gets easier with each time.


Some have said we must stay off everything???
 
Some have said we must stay off everything???

It doesn't matter.Test boosters don't make that much of a difference.You want some clean time before starting your designer,and test boosters are meant to be cycled.Doing 4 weeks of your preferred designer,followed by four weeks of nolva and 6 weeks of a test booster would be completely fine.Or you could do 4 weeks of PCT,take two weeks off,do 4-6 weeks of a test booster,take 2 weeks off and do a designer again.Test boosters don't even compare to a designer though.I would just extend the test booster after your PCT and wait for another cycle.
 
It doesn't matter.Test boosters don't make that much of a difference.You want some clean time before starting your designer,and test boosters are meant to be cycled.Doing 4 weeks of your preferred designer,followed by four weeks of nolva and 6 weeks of a test booster would be completely fine.Or you could do 4 weeks of PCT,take two weeks off,do 4-6 weeks of a test booster,take 2 weeks off and do a designer again.Test boosters don't even compare to a designer though.I would just extend the test booster after your PCT and wait for another cycle.

How about doing some DHEA/Dermacrine in between or maybe some 11-0x0...I know they are hormonal but I have some belly fat around my midsection/wasteline/love handles, even though I am very lean and muscular and built everywhere else.
I a have been dying to try Dermacrine since I am 45 yrs old.
 
I don't see why not.You just dont want to take things like......well designer steroids and ph's in your time off.Then of course the real deal.
 
Just interested in knowing the different amounts of time. I usually take 2 months off(depending on cycle length), but it varies. Let me know what has worked best for you.:head:


It depends, if you are a Party man than I would say only wait about 2 days in between smokin doobies, doin chicks, and drinkin beers, not to mention just lookin fine...
 
Thanks!

I appreciate the great feedback. My purpose of the thread was to get as much information as possible. I think we have done that pretty well. I knew that there is a standard for how much time you take in between cycles(PCT), but I personally am going to run only 1 good, solid, well researched cycle a year: PH/PS that is:dump:
 
I appreciate the great feedback. My purpose of the thread was to get as much information as possible. I think we have done that pretty well. I knew that there is a standard for how much time you take in between cycles(PCT), but I personally am going to run only 1 good, solid, well researched cycle a year: PH/PS that is:dump:


Sure...Sure...easier said than done. Once you have a good cycle everything else will be boring....you're gonnna looooovvve being "ON" if you do it right!:toilet:
 
Sure...Sure...easier said than done. Once you have a good cycle everything else will be boring....you're gonnna looooovvve being "ON" if you do it right!:toilet:



I hear ya lucky. Been down that road a few times before but I think that, all in all, you can get better gains from 1 really good cycle a year instead of 3 or 4.
Just my own personal experience

:thumbsup:
 
Shittie. I finished a Bold/Epi/H-drol/Winadrol cycle on 3/5. Total of 14 weeks, and now i'll be running a 5 week pct meaning 18 weeks clean :frustrate Amazing recomp but still it's disheartening to know i "should" take 18 weeks in between this cycle and the next. I was going to take just 2 months off. If anyone here thinks 2 months off is long enough let me know. If not 18 months it is...biting down.

and you only weigh 161? those are some dry things you must be cut as hell
 
I dont know how this old thread got bumped, but it's interesting. Any current comments? Month on, month off, month on?
 
I dont know how this old thread got bumped, but it's interesting. Any current comments? Month on, month off, month on?


I will chime in....and yes I agree...it is a good thread. Running PS/PH cycles is alot of work(or it should be) to do it right. It should be well researched and planned out. IMO, 2 months break is not really enough time gather all info and supps necessary for a cycle anyway. I know that it is the minimum time ,but I feel the longer you wait between cycles, the better your results will be. I personally run a cycle about every 4 months...

2 months on(cycle/pct)...
then about 4 months off...:sombrero:

Thanks for the feedback everyone.
 
I chose the "other" option, as I have a cycle coming up that will be consisting of five steroids (designer)...It will be a 10wk cycle including PCT, and then I'll probably take 6-8mos. off before another cycle.
 
IMO, I think 2 prohormone cycles/year is enough- one in the winter, one in the summer. I'm now starting PCT from a 5-week cycle of hdrol. I'll prolly wait until June to start an mdrol cycle....
 
Yeah, I agree less is more, (better) but sometimes results from a cycle are so good that you feel like you could stay on for longer than 6 wks and still be ok. But...
 
Now what about taking benadryl? Doesn't that "clean" the receptors?

So as long as everything (bloodwork) is in check, couldn't someone take some benadryl (is there a time frame, like a week or 2?) then start another cycle sooner than the time on/time off?

I thought I read that somewhere......
 
i just finished a 10 week cycle and a 4 week pct

i finished this week and am planning on running another cycle in mid to late march.
 
What if you pulse? does this change things any? ie: can time off be shorter than time on+pct= time off?

I know this is an old thread but i think if you pulse you could maybe even jump right into another. Would not suggest it but. After a pulsing cycle i run a pct for a little while. After i had ended the cycle i have no sides what so ever. I have only pulsed with epi and sd together and by themselves.
 
so what about if you are on TRT? Then what...

I just ran 6 weeks of havoc at 40mg/day and gained 10lbs and serious stength. I went up another 2-3lbs when I came off. No PCT. Felt a little crash for 3 days while my dopamine readjusted, but now I feel great. Its been 3 weeks. I don't plan on playing again until this summer, but just wondering what are the harms? How long does it take to recovery if hpta isn't an issue?

Are you guys primarily concerned about hpta recovery? or AR resensitation, liver, and lipids?
 
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