I'm on day 9 starting tommorow and I'm a lil more vascular, and recovery seems to be good, how long did it take for you to REALLLLLY feel it? Also what where you feeling? along with that was was your dosage and how long did you take it?
dont under estimate JW's ability to fill you up and make pumps better. I get way better workouts when I'm on JW. more so than any preworkout.Day 16, still waiting for JW to show me something extraordinary.
No noticeable strength gains yet and I believe the size & fullness I'm feeling is from my Pslin and Anabolic Pump.
But I have an 8 week cycle so I can be patient.
I guess that's the flaw of running stacks before having experience with each independent supp. It's hard to tell which one is doing what for ya.dont under estimate JW's ability to fill you up and make pumps better. I get way better workouts when I'm on JW. more so than any preworkout.
I really want to try that Pslin I heard that stuff is good. I also want to try PlasmaJet from Gaspari, anyone know if that is good?I guess that's the flaw of running stacks before having experience with each independent supp. It's hard to tell which one is doing what for ya.
I'm confident about JW's effectiveness, I've read waaaaay too many positive logs, threads, posts, to think otherwise. It took me almost 6 months of reading about JW before making a decision to try it.
I have experienced nasty pumps, but I assumed it was the Pslin and AP because that is one of their signature effects.
I want to tell you that Pslin is awesome, but truthfully I couldn't tell ya. I'm running Pslin, AP, JW, DCP, Sesamin Oil, Fish Oil (quasi-mega dose) and ALA, so if one of these guys are kick'n @$$, I couldn't tell ya who.I really want to try that Pslin I heard that stuff is good. I also want to try PlasmaJet from Gaspari, anyone know if that is good?
Was this with the old (Clear bottle Green label) formula or the new (red bottle red label) formula. I hear that there is a profound difference between the two.I'm on day 9 starting tommorow and I'm a lil more vascular, and recovery seems to be good, how long did it take for you to REALLLLLY feel it? Also what where you feeling? along with that was was your dosage and how long did you take it?
i have read this a lot a while back but i dont remember which one is supposedly more potent in terms of strength/mass? was it the old version?Was this with the old (Clear bottle Green label) formula or the new (red bottle red label) formula. I hear that there is a profound difference between the two.
How did you dose it?My best strength gains started in week 3 and just got better all the way through to the end of 8 weeks.
Same for me. My diet and training were in order so I made gains but I don't think the JW did much for me.didnt feel much after 8 weeks of continual use. Tiny strength increase, perhaps even a bit of a recomp but personally i didnt rate it at all.
The recommended 3 caps/d.How did you dose it?
Really? I've consistently read on this site that the old formula was better for strength and mass gains. Maybe both are good in terms of gains?from the research i did the new one is stronger,
hhm, i know the new one contains the steroid , either way im doing ok on the new one, 14lbs in nearly 5 weeks
I did, in addition to a few other androgenic sides; thickening facial hair, thickening arm hair ( i know weird but it happened.) It was a good product none the less gave me great strength gains, much more vascular, and through the roof libido, I am just not willing to sacrifice my hair!!Anyone experiencing hair loss on the new (RED bottle) version? I ran the clear bottle version for 8 weeks and had no problem, but it seems that the new version is higher in sides. Also, does the new version still list ADED as an ingredient? the one I have does not.
Well the steroid it supposedly contained was 6-DMT, on which I could find VERY little research. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was only PA and that Dutch Dr. who tested it and claimed it had 6-DMT. I used to old version, and the sides I experienced where increased libido, oily skin, DEEP sleep, some mild lethargy, and increased sweating. I ended the cycle with a 6-bromo product, and I feel like I recovered very well. Kept almost all of the weight, and the majority of the strength increases. While I may have gotten by on an OTC PCT AI, that is not to say that every one will too. It is suppresive, and a SERM, while perhaps not necessary, would not be a bad idea (toremifene seems to be gaining a lot of popularity as opposed to tamox since it is kind to lipid levels and lower toxicity). Hope that helps some.So what kind of sides were people seeing with the old version? Also, was the supposed steroid in the old version a weak steroid that requires OTC PCT, or a stronger steroid that requires Nolva PCT?
I do...some people have complained of shedding, so be mindful of that. The only problem, as I'm sure you know, is that no one really knows for sure what is in it. You can really only go by anecdotal evidence. So, take precautions. It seems to be good for bulking and cutting. I would take your doses every 8 hours or so with a good meal w/ carbs and fats. A long time ago there were people complaining of headaches, but I always took w/ meals and never experienced them. Have fun, be safe, and good luck.Thanks man, that's exactly the kind of information I'm looking for. So do you think an 8-weeker of the old JW would be a good stack to run? I would be running it solo.