HiTech and IGF-1

Very interested how this product pans out. Will being following any logs so try and link from here please. Also how long does a bottle last at recommended dosage?
 
Ricky10 said:
I wonder how this would have worked out as a transdermal product. Hmmm..
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dont think its possible..ageforce tried that with their HGH and IGF patches but they have to change the molecule so it passes through the skin which turns the compound into something else...something that just doesnt work like the original compound.
 
Ricky10 said:
Essentially I just feel that this would be in the hands of the FDA/Big Pharma if it did anything significant. If it turns out that it actually does work, I think it will be a short run for Hi-Tech with this product before they take over, or just ban it altogether..
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I disagree. It takes a billion dollars to get a drug approved. Yes a billion. What condition would it be approved for? Dwarfism? Muscle wasting? How much igf does in Increlex/mecasermin sell every year? I believe somewhere around $30 mil
 
Did some more reading, the benefits of IGF-1 are crazy. Do you guys think the benefits outweight the fact your organs can grow on this stuff?
 
Ricky10 said:
Seems like Hi-Tech should have added sodium caprate to the tablets to optimize intestinal wall permeability.
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Why??? it's in a cyclosome. The fatty acid or the cyclodextrin is what will be absorbed by the intestines. Then those will be cleaved of in the blood stream leaving pure igf1. Obviously I question the legitimacy of of cyclosome and Hi-Tech but if cyclosome is what it claims to be this will work.
 
I am interested in this product, where will be best place to order for international customers, us over the other side of the pond.

Also is this superior to MK677 for muscle gain and fat loss, i am in 2 minds if i should use this for 50-100 days or order 6 months worth of MK677 to do half a year straight due to slow effects from increase in growth hormone.
 
Joe12 said:
Was doing some resurch, and stumbled acrosss multiple
articals that said IGF-1 will make your organs grow? What's up with that?
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you have IGF-1 receptors everywhere, if they're exposed to high levels of IGF-1, yes they can grow. This is similar to the prostate growing from an anabolics cycle...you have AR's in your prostate, however the vast majority of them reside in your smooth muscle tissue.

You would need to dose a LOT of IGF-1 to experience any actual organ growth issues.

Fireflynut1 said:
Just went ahead and ordered a bottle. I had recent tendon surgery so I'm looking for recovery and a little extra boost with healing.
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please let us know how you like it!

Ricky10 said:
Essentially I just feel that this would be in the hands of the FDA/Big Pharma if it did anything significant. If it turns out that it actually does work, I think it will be a short run for Hi-Tech with this product before they take over, or just ban it altogether..
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rascal14 said:
That was my biggest skepticism.
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They literally can't. In order to do so, they'd have to rewrite DSHEA and get it passed for via congress.

IGF-1 is naturally occurring (we extract ours from whey)...so if they wanted to ban this ingredient, they'd also have to ban whey protein.


ain't happening.
 
VaughnTrue said:
They literally can't. In order to do so, they'd have to rewrite DSHEA and get it passed for via congress.

IGF-1 is naturally occurring (we extract ours from whey)...so if they wanted to ban this ingredient, they'd also have to ban whey protein.


ain't happening.
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So if you can use testosterone if you extract it???? Because if you can then that would be awesome, as there are few plants the have testosterone. Probably be expensive, as it would take alot of raw material to get enough to make a useful dose. However I would be willing to pay real good morning for this though.(if cyclosome actually works)


Also I have a another question, that is not relevant to this thread at all, but I'm gonna ask as I can't find any answers. VaughnTrue does the esterification of an orally administrated hormone effects it's half life? My thinking is that it would (but not to the same extent). Although everything I'm reading about oral administration shows no difference. However there isn't much actual proof of this either way just bro speak.
 
rtmilburn said:
So if you can use testosterone if you extract it???? Because if you can then that would be awesome, as there are few plants the have testosterone. Probably be expensive, as it would take alot of raw material to get enough to make a useful dose. However I would be willing to pay real good morning for this though.(if cyclosome actually works)


Also I have a another question, that is not relevant to this thread at all, but I'm gonna ask as I can't find any answers. VaughnTrue does the esterification of an orally administrated hormone effects it's half life? My thinking is that it would (but not to the same extent). Although everything I'm reading about oral administration shows no difference. However there isn't much actual proof of this either way just bro speak.
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Unfortunately, both DSHEA and DASCA prevent that.

The way the laws are currently written prevents testosterone/DHT among other hormones (like derivatives of these hormones...thus why compounds like 11-keto testosterone are implicitly banned) from being used, despite being found in the food supply. Peptides such as IGF-1 are not included in this.

This is why we are able to offer the prohormones we use. DSHEA/DASCA both clearly state DHEA is allowed, making our DHEA derivatives like 1-Testosterone legal. If either DSHEA/DASCA was rewritten or the laws changed to ban it, our prohormones would become illegal (although we do not foresee this happening now, nor in the near future).






Yes, esters do change the half life of orally administered compounds, however nowhere near to the degree of injectables.
 
user567 said:
I just received my product and started a log

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Awesome man! I am definitely in for the ride. I will be ordering my IGF-1 this Friday (I promised my wife I would wait until pay day this week since my daughter moved to college this past weekend and it cost me a lot of $$$). So I'll place my order and start my log as well. Good luck!






-Spaz
 
If a cycle is 50 days then how long would the recommended time off be until you can run the product again?

The reason that I'm asking is because I just ordered two bottles and didn't realize that the recommended cycle length was 50 days (1 bottle).
 
djbombsquad said:
So why are people saying they get a pump again . If it's not lr3?
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johnl1800 said:
If a cycle is 50 days then how long would the recommended time off be until you can run the product again?

The reason that I'm asking is because I just ordered two bottles and didn't realize that the recommended cycle length was 50 days (1 bottle).
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2-4 weeks off and begin again.

I am curious to see how everyone ends up dosing this bad boy, and which dosing protocol will be most effective for people.
 
Could you stack this with colosteum such a humanotropin or even usplabs powerfull?
 
I just got off the phone with a sales rep who has been on this for ~2 weeks now. He is a BIG dude, who has used injectable IGF-1 in the past.

I asked him for a legit reviews/his thoughts on it and from what he says he is very impressed. He claaims his recovery is enhanced big time, and hes impressed with some of the weight loss which he wasn't expecting. Claims he did go hypo a few times on it however, so make sure you have your carbs when using it.
 
VaughnTrue said:
I just got off the phone with a sales rep who has been on this for ~2 weeks now. He is a BIG dude, who has used injectable IGF-1 in the past.

I asked him for a legit reviews/his thoughts on it and from what he says he is very impressed. He claaims his recovery is enhanced big time, and hes impressed with some of the weight loss which he wasn't expecting. Claims he did go hypo a few times on it however, so make sure you have your carbs when using it.
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Interesting feedback..Im curious as to his dosing protocol..and what he stacked with it.
 
Ursolic Acid seems like a nice supplement to pair up with this..

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Might be a good time to get some Hydra Head Six!
 
alvin1 said:
VaughnTrue is that way different than the APS IGF xtreme formula?
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its like comparing power wheels to a ferrari.

APS product doesnt have a delivery system #1...I have never recommended this product one time and I still wont.
There is also 100ng of IFG-1 per serving. Pro IGF-1 has literally 200x more IGF-1 per serving.
 
VaughnTrue said:
its like comparing power wheels to a ferrari.

APS product doesnt have a delivery system #1...I have never recommended this product one time and I still wont.
There is also 100ng of IFG-1 per serving. Pro IGF-1 has literally 200x more IGF-1 per serving.
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Truth. No BS here, I like it
 
The_Old_Guy said:
So if one was to test if this stuff works via a blood draw, when should it be taken and when should blood be drawn?
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I personally would try doing blood work 90-120 minutes after a dose. It SHOULD hit the blood stream just about 90 minutes after you take the tablets
 
If you took this with nrala would it be beneficial .
 
I absolutely love DPS (they are based out of Bradford, PA so I receive my shipments very quickly) and you can't beat that price with the 10% off coupon. Man I really need pay day to hit this week :)

I could buy now, but the wife would have my ....






-Spaz
 
Big_Spaz said:
I absolutely love DPS (they are based out of Bradford, PA so I receive my shipments very quickly) and you can't beat that price with the 10% off coupon. Man I really need pay day to hit this week :)

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-Spaz
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thats good to hear... im in NJ so mine should arrive soon
 
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