Hi-Tech Pharma: Pro IGF-1 Blood Tests @ 20mcg/day

Firreozkan said:
Hey guys. Will this product increase the amount of cells? Hyperplasia? Or whatever its called. Or will it only help with recovery and hunger?
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So far, we are trying see if it even gets into the bloodstream. The only bloodwork thus far that had no affiliation with Hi-Tech indicated that is does not.
 
Oh gosh... so u mean this does not work? How about every1 talking about fullness and pumps? And better sleeps? Where does these things come from
 
Question: what is the half life of IGF1? I looked it up and can only find info on the DES and LR3 variants and I believe this product is neither of those, correct? I thought I read somewhere that it's 10-20 mins?
 
Firreozkan said:
Oh gosh... so u mean this does not work? How about every1 talking about fullness and pumps? And better sleeps? Where does these things come from
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Those reports are what was surprising me and made me think it was "working"
Then this came along...

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Firreozkan said:
Oh gosh... so u mean this does not work? How about every1 talking about fullness and pumps? And better sleeps? Where does these things come from
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Man it's been out for about a month, NOTHING is known for sure yet. I am optimistic and hopeful personally.
 
Been on Pro IGF1 almost 3 weeks now (dose is 40mcg daily). Today, I increased dose to 60mcg. 10 tabs 2 hours prior workout and 5 tabs prior bed.
My doc wanted me to take bloodwork now on friday but I asked him to wait at least 1 more week.
 
I ordered 4 bottles from A1 supps.... 2 to me and 2 to a friend of mine. But the ordering did not work out, they wanted a "wire payment" or something, so I just cancelled it. So I waited this long, to get these news, and finally now after 6 days of waiting I have the money back in my bank account, and now Im ordering from mysupplementstore. But I saw the guy with negative blood works...... Should I go for it still? I'd like to pay for the placebo too ;)
 
Firreozkan said:
Hey guys. Will this product increase the amount of cells? Hyperplasia? Or whatever its called. Or will it only help with recovery and hunger?
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Assuming it works...and works the way that rh-IGF-1 is known to work, it should create muscle cell differentiation/hyperplasia but those results take about 6 months to manifest.(Not saying you need to take this for 6 months straight. Just cycle as you normally would and eventually the results will show in terms of new muscle cells. Again, assuming it works the way injectable rh-IGF does.
 
Also guys, I wanna add, I think it might not be exakt the same for everyone. I mean, this is cappsules with the substance we are looking for, but as your protein shaker stars smelling bad after a while, or as ur eggs can change shape from liquid into solid form, the protein molecules we are trying to get from the product might be affected in some ways. I dont know, just a thought. Maybe why this guy and his friend did not get results? Like it was in too hot areas? Or too moisture? I actually have no idea what Im saying right now
 
Firreozkan said:
Also guys, I wanna add, I think it might not be exakt the same for everyone. I mean, this is cappsules with the substance we are looking for, but as your protein shaker stars smelling bad after a while, or as ur eggs can change shape from liquid into solid form, the protein molecules we are trying to get from the product might be affected in some ways. I dont know, just a thought. Maybe why this guy and his friend did not get results? Like it was in too hot areas? Or too moisture? I actually have no idea what Im saying right now
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How long should this product be run, cycling recommendation. For mk677, it seems you should be on for months, or can be on for months... how long for igf to be run as most growth hormone type drugs it is to be taken 6 months at minimum
 
Danes said:
Actually i dont feel anything from it. I had a period of lethargy but it lasted some few days. It can be due many reasons
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I felt some lethargy for a few days as well but it didnt last..also I dont get that "on" feeling at all like a lot of compounds give, but then neither does injectable rh-IGF-1 give you that "on" feeling so thats actually fine by me.
 
chainsaw said:
How long should this product be run, cycling recommendation. For mk677, it seems you should be on for months, or can be on for months... how long for igf to be run as most growth hormone type drugs it is to be taken 6 months at minimum
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Cycle for 4-6 weeks, go off for 2-4 weeks, repeat (if desired). Dont just stay on non-stop like you would with HGH because IGF-1 is not HGH. :fingersx:
 
I too am most curious about Danes bloods because he is dosing very much the same way as me (except I'm not going up to 15 tabs per day) and he's run the same cycle I have (nearing the end of Week 3).

I can personally say the same ... a little lethargy a few days during the cycle (probably 2 or 3 days that I can remember really dragging) but other days sleep quality was great, woke up very refreshed, recovery seems to be very good (and I'm training fairly heavy right now) and all in all everything is working fine (not missing workouts, sex drive is still high, etc.).





-Spaz
 
I'm interested in how a 20mcg dose increased circulating IGF-1 by more than 20mcg in 96 minutes.

Aside from this supplement, I'm also interested in why bodybuilders even use a 20mcg injected dose.

Has anyone posted their own bloods taking IGF-1 only with the usual 20mcg injected dose?

Because clinical doses of IGF-1 are much much much higher than that, and don't even increase circulating IGF-1 as much as the first bloods posted in this thread.
 
De__eB said:
I'm interested in how a 20mcg dose increased circulating IGF-1 by more than 20mcg in 96 minutes.

Aside from this supplement, I'm also interested in why bodybuilders even use a 20mcg injected dose.

Has anyone posted their own bloods taking IGF-1 only with the usual 20mcg injected dose?

Because clinical doses of IGF-1 are much much much higher than that, and don't even increase circulating IGF-1 as much as the first bloods posted in this thread.
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Agreed..my lab rat did 4mg of injectable rh-IGF-1 in 4 weeks..hyperplasia results did manifest several months down the line but thats the dose it took.
 
I read pretty much every damn post in this thread , crazy how the excitement was in the beginning.
and towards the end it's like wtf dies this even work..... smh
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
4mg in 4 weeks...1mg per week
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Got it, so roughly 7x the typical bro dose, but still much less than the medical dose.

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These guys are all getting doses in the numerous milligrams per day.

Circulating IGF-1 is in the multiple milligrams.

I'm really struggling to see the usefulness of 20mcg of IGF-1, injected or oral.
 
I think Hi-Tech just needed a high priced and big selling attention grabbing product to fund their ongoing legal crusades to fight for DMAA.
 
Ricky10 said:
Not really...haha!
There is still a part of me that thinks this may "work", but that part is getting ever so smaller as time goes on..
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I know you don't like me, but .. :)
I am with you and hoping this works out. It sold out at Mr. O. I'm glad it did and I didn't buy it.
 
As promised, I will make a thread about Pro IGF1 (if it works or not).
It will include bloodwork and some other thing ;)
 
Mowglisml said:
I know you don't like me, but .. :)
I am with you and hoping this works out. It sold out at Mr. O. I'm glad it did and I didn't buy it.
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Yeah, you should be working on your next album rather than hanging out in here! If the funds stop rolling in, you can kiss all those fancy trips goodbye!

Yes, it is still very much in the wait and see, hope for more positive data category..
 
Danes said:
As promised, I will make a thread about Pro IGF1 (if it works or not).
It will include bloodwork and some other thing ;)
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I think that If it does work, itll take bigger doses (like what youre taking) to see worthwhile results. I know of a member here who plans on taking 25 tabs a day (100mcg daily) to get good results.
 
VaughnTrue said:
he did have low IGF-1 to begin with, you're correct. So if he naturally was barely producing IGF-1, to me it means that the increase can be 100% be attributed to the product, and not natural increases.

This to me is more impressive than anything else.
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cool single unverified blood test and all but be honest, much easier to increase hypo levels compared to healthy levels that is not even a question.
 
USPlabsRep said:
cool single unverified blood test and all but be honest, much easier to increase hypo levels compared to healthy levels that is not even a question.
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I'd also think it's impossible to increase circulating levels by a hundred fold more than the amount injected in only an hour and a half :p
 
De__eB said:
Got it, so roughly 7x the typical bro dose, but still much less than the medical dose.

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These guys are all getting doses in the numerous milligrams per day.

Circulating IGF-1 is in the multiple milligrams.

I'm really struggling to see the usefulness of 20mcg of IGF-1, injected or oral.
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What??? I'm totally confused about this entire post...

An mg a day is a VERY VERY HIGH DOSE to take daily for anyone.
 
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