Hexarelin + GRHP-6

You all are posting very ood points to your side. I have to say though, no one can be officially right as there are no direct studies for this use besides, IM and I.V.
So in that i have to say the most of the "testing" seems to be at 200-500mcg a day, 4/3 or 5/2 many seem to favor 4/3.
On cjc, well i havent looked to deep into it yet as GHRP-6 is what has my attention right now.
Really all there is is theorys(ies) and user feedback.

I think when i use it for my "tests" ill be doing GHRP-6 at 200mcg a night, 4/3. And go higher if i feel need to from there.
Not sure if ill be using Hex or cjc with it either.
 
preston25 said:
Hey all,
Just received a 2mg vial of ghrp-6. How much bac water or aa should be added, 1ml? I cant find any info on this. Im planning on pinning 400mcg ed before bed.

Regards
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If you have 2mgs of active and you add 2mls of bac water you will get 10mcgs per tic on a slin pin. So then ud need to dose almost all of the slin pin ( 40tics) to get 400mcgs.
 
Marc,

The thing is there is no such 'cjc concentration' in the body; your body processes the cjc fairly quickly which stimulates the pituitary gland to release gh. Your post seems to imply that cjc will 'build up' in your system like AAS do but I think that is not the way to view the proper biological process involved here.
 
babyblu said:
Marc,

The thing is there is no such 'cjc concentration' in the body; your body processes the cjc fairly quickly which stimulates the pituitary gland to release gh. Your post seems to imply that cjc will 'build up' in your system like anabolic steroids do but I think that is not the way to view the proper biological process involved here.
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I had the impression that cjc could be treated as an AA regarding build up seeing as how it's a long acting peptide secretagogue. Like for instance how clen's cardiac toxicity is linked to it building up on beta2 receptors (or is it beta1, when talking about cardiac side effects).

Then, again, no research has been conducted on that matter so far, so it could be a possibilty. In the end, is there really gonna be a difference between a regular hgh protocol applied to cjc, or a 2-3 injections/week.
 
this is great information from all and is the very reason this board is so great. there is NO real hard information on these peptides as they are all new and barely researched. it is the acutal user experience supported my intelligent theory and thought process that benefits us all. anyone who gives this board that is ****ing cool with me!

good stuff y'all
 
C'mon bro...enough with the name calling....this quote tells me you know nothing about cjc and more importantly should not be giving away advice on the subject. I may not have actual experience with gh cycles....then again I am not giving advice...just reading...maybe you should do the same, but hey, if there are IDIOTS willing to take your advice, by all means. But I know what to do when I come across your screen name....


If only GRUNT were reading this

QUOTE=Marc-Antony;1145767]200-250mcg/daily (nighttime,subQ) for 4-6 weeks, to saturation. Then, I got three more weeks with it still having an effect on igf production (no inject.), then 4-6 weeks off.[/QUOTE]
 
Wow nice, at least you have a life goal now.

You know I have no problem with being called out, it's just that so what ... Grunt is gonna come here, tell me how stupid I am, how secretagogues won't shut me down and such ... And, in the end, nobody is learning nothing. At least, I have the guts to defend my "faulse/true" statement ...

Then tell me except the saturation part and dosing ... what is wrong with what I said ... It has been shown that cjc does have lasting effects even 3 weeks after the last injection on igf, what is wrong with taking some time off, even if unnessecary.

So, basically, there are 2 points you disagree with, first and for most, saturation (which I don't see why it isn't possible when looking at Clen for example, or AA's), and finaly, shut down ... Ok, shut down might not be the best word, but I can't see long injections protocol not having an effect such as desensitization, and interfere with hgh homeostasis.

Please, by all means, tell me why this isn't ok, I am willing to learn, but I get tired of ppl saying, your theory sucks will bringing nothing to the table.


szeleale said:
C'mon bro...enough with the name calling....this quote tells me you know nothing about cjc and more importantly should not be giving away advice on the subject. I may not have actual experience with gh cycles....then again I am not giving advice...just reading...maybe you should do the same, but hey, if there are IDIOTS willing to take your advice, by all means. But I know what to do when I come across your screen name....


If only GRUNT were reading this

QUOTE=Marc-Antony;1145767]200-250mcg/daily (nighttime,subQ) for 4-6 weeks, to saturation. Then, I got three more weeks with it still having an effect on igf production (no inject.), then 4-6 weeks off.
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Dude....what is up with all the insults? All I said is scretalogues, secretatogues, secretagogues, whatever you want to call it(I have heard all three) does not impair your own body's ability to produce gh, they just merely stimulate more gh to be produced. If we were talking about actual HGH (somatropin)then your body will have a negative feedback effect( is that what it's called?) know what I'm sayin..? BIG difference, but that's why people are in love with secratawhatevers.

Dude...no more insults please

Marc-Antony said:
Call it how want, but you can't possibly be telling me that secretagogues don't have the slightest bit effect on hgh homeostasis in the long run, or when coming off.
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I am not worried too much about getting shutdown ... but more about the body's ability to produce normal levels of hgh when coming off, and if used for too long a period, and desensitization.



szeleale said:
Dude....what is up with all the insults? All I said is scretalogues, secretatogues, secretagogues, whatever you want to call it(I have heard all three) does not impair your own body's ability to produce gh, they just merely stimulate more gh to be produced. If we were talking about actual HGH (somatropin)then your body will have a negative feedback effect( is that what it's called?) know what I'm sayin..? BIG difference, but that's why people are in love with secratawhatevers.

Dude...no more insults please
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i also find it impossible to believe that taking cjc/hepa/ghrp has no effect on GH production, thats like saying taking HCG wont affect your test production, while technically taking HCG does not affect testosterone production we all know that taking it at high doses for long periods of time desensitizes you to LH, while not directly affecting affecting testosterone production, too much LH will effectively stop your bodies ability to produce its own. again, i am super newb to the whole GH system but it seems very likely that marc-anthony has some valid points, any other vets want to chime in for support or educated argument?? grunt, lakemount, big pete, jomi, etc??
 
You guys are argueing theories, thast it. No one has provided scientific evidence. So basically neither is wrong or right.

I have to say though, GHRP is only upregulating the release, which is almost like "over working" or forcing the neccessary gland to release the GH.
As i understand, unless you are putting in the compound or such, like Test, then there should not be any shutting down. When you are providing your body something it will not provide for you, as i said, like injecting Test. Now the "suppression" or bounce back effect COULD be considered shutdown becasue you will not be producing as much GH as you were on the GHRP.
Once again we are only pointing out theories which sounds right to ourselves. We need to get over the arguing cause this thread hold alot of great ideas and points.
Nothing about dosing is clear either. Some say 200mcg others are using 500-600mcg, i mean this is all on the fly stuff.

Peace.
 
if you want the effect from the growht hormone it seems like 100mcg or some dose not enough to make you painfully hungry right before bed would be the best dosing, i'm going to pair that with a small dose in the morning while on tren to keep my hunger up, even if the hunger is not the main reason to take it
 
neverstop said:
if you want the effect from the growht hormone it seems like 100mcg or some dose not enough to make you painfully hungry right before bed would be the best dosing, i'm going to pair that with a small dose in the morning while on tren to keep my hunger up, even if the hunger is not the main reason to take it
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That would be a good idea it seems...
 
That answers my question. 100 at night would work and I will be stacking that with powerfull.
 
I am not arguing any thoeries. I have read Grow Young with HGH by Ronald Klatz. Read that book, then talk to me.

MentalTwitch said:
You guys are argueing theories, thast it. No one has provided scientific evidence. So basically neither is wrong or right.

I have to say though, GHRP is only upregulating the release, which is almost like "over working" or forcing the neccessary gland to release the GH.
As i understand, unless you are putting in the compound or such, like Test, then there should not be any shutting down. When you are providing your body something it will not provide for you, as i said, like injecting Test. Now the "suppression" or bounce back effect COULD be considered shutdown becasue you will not be producing as much GH as you were on the GHRP.
Once again we are only pointing out theories which sounds right to ourselves. We need to get over the arguing cause this thread hold alot of great ideas and points.
Nothing about dosing is clear either. Some say 200mcg others are using 500-600mcg, i mean this is all on the fly stuff.

Peace.
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szeleale said:
I am not arguing any thoeries. I have read Grow Young with HGH by Ronald Klatz. Read that book, then talk to me.
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Well if you say so....
im not tryin to start with anyone. If some one like youself has a source just let us know. Im goin to use my torrent to look for it eBook. If not ill have to look for it next time i hit borders or barnes n noble.
 
everyone's body will react differently, i would say start low and play with the dose till you find what you like, also the side effects are un known on these really so best to start smaller.

its best to take on empty stomach too.
 
neverstop said:
everyone's body will react differently, i would say start low and play with the dose till you find what you like, also the side effects are un known on these really so best to start smaller.

its best to take on empty stomach too.
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Agreed. 100mcg for the first full week, to determine hunger and what not.
For sure take on empty stomach, or anything will hinder the GH release.

So now ill throw this out there...
With not knowing sides and whatever else aside....
Do you feel that more, would show results faster?
i.e. if i were to use it 200mcg for 10 weeks compared to using 500mcg for say 6-8? Or even the amount used over the exact same time frame...?

Also i missed it, would i be better off to do 4on 3off? Or is it assumed everyday is ok?
Wow lots of questions, points and ideas in this thread. Lets keep it civil and we'll all benefit alot.

PEACE!
 
I plan to go every day since I lift every day. 100 and start there. I don't know what the magic number is. I don't want to go to high and find out its as good as 100mcg or if not worse etc. So lets all pick a number and repoart back.
 
djbombsquad said:
I plan to go every day since I lift every day. 100 and start there. I don't know what the magic number is. I don't want to go to high and find out its as good as 100mcg or if not worse etc. So lets all pick a number and repoart back.
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haha, well you'll be waitin awhile on me.
 
Well how else we supposed to know what the magic number is. What if its 300mcg who knows. That is why I was saying people doing a ghrp6 cycle should each pick a number. I will do 100 than bump it to 150.
 
no way man. that is about as good an idea as a jump to conclusions mat. first of all nobody wants to guinea pig their body, second of all, every single persons body will react differently, everybody needs to find their own "magic number" starting low and doing what they are comfortable with.

i'm giong to do 50mcg in the morning when i wake up and 100 before bed
 
After 4 days of pinning ghrp i feel foggy as hell. Cant complete a sentence and my head hurts. I do feel a flush during the day though so i guess its working. Im pinning at night and taking some niacin along with it. Has anyone felt weird while taking this stuff?

Thanks
 
preston25 said:
After 4 days of pinning ghrp i feel foggy as hell. Cant complete a sentence and my head hurts. I do feel a flush during the day though so i guess its working. Im pinning at night and taking some niacin along with it. Has anyone felt weird while taking this stuff?

Thanks
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How much nicain you taking? I have neverheard a reaction like this. And hose much GRHP you dosing?
I would say drop the niacin first and go from there.
Any reason youre using the niacin?
 
Wwll niacin is supposed to detoxify and increase hgh output. Im pinning 200mcg of ghrp before bed. Ive been taking niacin for sometime and have never felt sick from it.
 
made me feel like crap, i think it might have made me sick actually, waiting to recover before trying it again. IR stuff by the way
 
preston25 said:
Wwll niacin is supposed to detoxify and increase hgh output. Im pinning 200mcg of ghrp before bed. Ive been taking niacin for sometime and have never felt sick from it.
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oh ok. Well that sukcs man. I am goin to look to see if anyone else reported this or knows why.
 
500mcg GHRP-6 after workout in the AM just like if you were pinning HGH. I have tried all kinds of ways and this amount and pinning after workout has netted the best results for getting lean and maintaining all of your muscle. If you get hungry eat 3 whole eggs and 1/4 cup of almonds or mac nuts and you will no longer be hungry and will still burn fat since you are consuming almost zero carbs in that mean. At least it works that way for me. Now I am 36 years old so I do think stuff like GHRP-6 bennifits me a lot more then you guys that are under 30 years old. You have a lot high natural gh level under 30 years of age. As a matter of fact if you are in your twenties I would say this is a total waste of money for you. You are already producing naturally lots of gh.
 
I will start with 100 and I will be stacking with powerfull. So that should be a nice stack for GH production. Tonight I start powerfull. I am wating for my water to make my ghrp6 than I will start that and go as long as I can afford it.
 
I got IR stuff too.

I like the stuff, but I don't really like it during the day. It makes me tired in a weird sort of way - foggy is a good word. My job (student and teacher) doesn't allow that kind of brain fog.

So I take it at night. I have been taking 240mcg (this is enough for a hunger trigger, but as long as I eat like 400-500 calories before going to bed right when taking it, the hunger won't bother me).

Like clockwork, after about 35 minutes of taking it, my arms and hands 'swell' up (if I go above 240mcg say like up to 400mcg my hands will actually start going numb) and my stomach starts rumbling. These effects increase linearly as the dosage levels go up. I have experimented with 600mcg just for curiousity's sake and the hunger was very uncomfortable (it did not feel natural if you know what I mean).

Anyways, in conclusion, I'm not sure how I feel about this. I really can't tell any quantitative results, but its only been a week and ahalf so none should be expected.

I am going to run it again with Hexaralin if I can find a better source (I dont really trust IR for some reason) after running IGF.
 
i have been taking this stuff at 200mcg for 8 days (went as high as 400 2x) post workout. i get very hungry and shaky after taking. so far i notice i am getting leaner and sleeping better. as everyone else is saying i get very hungry after taking my shot. i love this effect as it has caused me to gain a few pounds of quality mass as i eat about 1000 calories more a day with ease. most of this is glycogen which is making me much fuller.
 
shame this thread died....

anybody else experiment with peptides? i ran 400mcg before bed for about 2 weeks....hungry, sleepy, tingly hands, the whole nine....could hack it after awhile though, too much water retention and fatigue. anybody do hexarelin solo?
 
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