Here goes another one

I'm at the end of week 3 and feeling some effects, very horny, feel focused, and I keep gaining weight (been on maintenance calories for last few days) it's insane.
 
ok guys soo tomorrow starts the orals. yum, i will take pictures tomorrow for the start of the cycle after my huge cheat meal (all you can eat chinese japanese) i will buzz my legs (im a hairy ****) but i will NOT shave them. this way you guys can get a better look at the tone or lack there of.
 
took 2 EQT2 pills this morning

nothing to report lol.

just to note for everyone. i take all liver support supplements AT NIGHT ONLY.

i have a bunch of different ones but im using as of now,...

LIV52 (left over from last one)
Liverrite (left over from last time)
Hawthorne (2.2g per day left over from last time)
Garlic (life fitness) (2 pills a day)
NAC (bulk from NP will start soon. not sure when ill use it. but i probably will add it in at some point.)

i will post pictures after my huge cheatmeal .
 
first pin, my buddy did for my i dont have my syringes yet, my buddy has a ton so he just did it, it was awesome!!!!!

pictures up later, my girl has to take them for me.;
 
yea i know, i wasnt gunna do it that way just because i wanted to get some sort of kick before i start the test or have them all kick at the same time..

i just couldnt wait anymore i was way to antsy.

anyone have any advice on the Tren dose when im stacking, should i stick with 60 or goto 90? im only gunna do 5 weeks of orals, i decided to up the dose on hdrol and run it shorter. and have 5 week total on the orals....

New Plan is going to be like this........

Week 1-10 (12) Test E 500mg
Week 1-3 EQT2 105mg M14ADD 60mg Hdrol (3caps)
Week 4-5 Hdrol 100mg Hdrol (4caps)
Week 2-5 Trenadrol 60mg Trenadrol (2caps) maybe 90 mg??

every Tuesday thursday Saturday 1mg of Adex.

left nipple has been weird lately not puffy not itchy no pain unless i push on it signifcantly, small bump. but i also have my nipples peirced so it can be a number of things (keloid?)(irritated?) who knows. (its not infected though)
 
as far as pictures are concerned which ones would you like to see this way we can see the changes better.

also with regaurds to the pictures, how should i find the lighting so that its the best picture i can get?
 
not to be an a55hole but i have a small request.

can you refer to the trenadrol as tdrol or trena? anything but tren. its confusing esp when you are pinning test.

if not then its ok :D

looks like a good log to start, looking forward to the meal pics!!! :food:
 
pistonpump said:
not to be an a55hole but i have a small request.

can you refer to the trenadrol as tdrol or trena? anything but tren. its confusing esp when you are pinning test.

if not then its ok :D

looks like a good log to start, looking forward to the meal pics!!! :food:
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its cool man i thouhgt i wrote it out again on the second page....

im looking foward to the meal pic, i was gunna diet for an extra week but decided to stop it short bc i was too excited..

any particular pose thati should do to see the best progession in gains? front double bi, front lats and legs?
 
i find i look best with a light directly above me, and a light on my left and right adjacent to my body. if you got any of those bendy lamps use them they work great.

hit these 4 poses. abdominal, side chest, most muscular, rear lat spread.

abdominal will show leg development as well as abs and lats from the front with arms raised/
side chest will show full spectrum shoulder as well as bi/tri and chest.
MM will show traps as well as shoulders arms and forearm, and obv chest.
the rear lat spread will show back development as well as tricep, trap, and rear delt.
 
Your just going to have to watch how you angle the lights. If you do them at certain angles then you are going to "look" bigger/striated than you actually are, which will give us a false sense of results ...

It's amazing how much thicker/striated i look when I take pictures in my bedroom mirror (which has softer lighting) than I do in my bathroom mirror, which has outside/bright type of lighting.
 
sounds good, after i eat all my thai food, ill be more then bloated and watery for these pix hhaha. ill tell you though chest lats and shoulders need work. i dont do traps ever, i rely on deadlifts to help with those, same with forearms.

my posing is quite week though hah
 
hardknock said:
Your just going to have to watch how you angle the lights. If you do them at certain angles then you are going to "look" bigger/striated than you actually are, which will give us a false sense of results ...

It's amazing how much thicker/striated i look when I take pictures in my bedroom mirror (which has softer lighting) than I do in my bathroom mirror, which has outside/bright type of lighting.
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im not lean enough as of now, im sticking between 13-17% right now i think (prolly on the higher end) but hopefully ill look semi decent.
 
go easy guys,

im not posting the abdominal thigh, it needs to be retaken and im embarresed by it.
 

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not looking bad, but BF is around 15-16% here. muscle seperation is visible but hard to distinguish between the smaller muscle groups. you have some nice lat development but forearms and triceps need work, as well as rear delts and traps. become best friends with famers walks. biceps have nice size, make sure to hit those tris with some intesnity.
 
nephilim666 said:
not looking bad, but BF is around 15-16% here. muscle seperation is visible but hard to distinguish between the smaller muscle groups. you have some nice lat development but forearms and triceps need work, as well as rear delts and traps. become best friends with famers walks. biceps have nice size, make sure to hit those tris with some intesnity.
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crazy thing is i hit my tris real hard i puss out on Bis, because i hate them.

u really think my lats are ok? i thought they were shitty.....

my shoulders are bad too no?

farmers walks i can do that. good for forearms and traps,

any advice on tris and rear dealts?????? (i dont use many machines)

Triceps i do........... Tricep pushdown, Over head tricep extention think peopel call it a french press. (with dumbell), dips on a chair with weight on my lap and my feet up. and sometime underhand tricep extension
 
hit tris with some heavy close grip/ reverse grip bench. that will help em grow. your shoulders could use some work, hit some arnold presses, side lateral raises, and if you have cables available hit your rear delts by standing in the middle and doing what is essentialy standing cable flies.
 
nephilim666 said:
hit tris with some heavy close grip/ reverse grip bench. that will help em grow. your shoulders could use some work, hit some arnold presses, side lateral raises, and if you have cables available hit your rear delts by standing in the middle and doing what is essentialy standing cable flies.
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will do bro.

what bout chest lol.... break it down for me im at your disposal as far as what should be done. after all you do compete, so ill do what you think i need to work on most in the 12-16 weeks ill be ON
 
Reps for pics.

We are real people, not genetic freaks or roid monsters with 3-4% body fat.

When my BF drops i lose strength like crazy, im sick of it.

Keep up the good work crazy.
 
stick to bench/dumbell press on flat and incline. hit flies where you bring the weight into the middle of your chest. use cables to hit upper chest. just make sure your not doing the same exercises week after week and that the intensity that your training with is very high.
 
nutrition so far:

2 packets maple brown sugar cream of wheat
2 scoops WPC/WPI Reccession (true protein)
about 1.5tablesppons olive oil (maybe a little more, i dont weight it out i just pour it from the gallon jug)
 
nephilim666 said:
stick to bench/dumbell press on flat and incline. hit flies where you bring the weight into the middle of your chest. use cables to hit upper chest. just make sure your not doing the same exercises week after week and that the intensity that your training with is very high.
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my problem flat dumbell is i only feel it in my right pec and mostly the lower inner (and i never feel that part on my left side no matter what) however since today is chest day ill do it for you.

my exercises stay the same for the most part but i change up the order in which i use them.

i never feel flies. i recently started incorperating incline flies into the workout.....

i do Cables (one arm at a time, because i use the lat pull down machine)..... is there any specific way you would have me angle while doing them?
 
You shouldn't really need any real rear delt work until you're already monster status. Your rear delts should be getting blasted on a lot of other movements. No need for extra IMO
 
nosnmiveins said:
wheres the MEAT?????:food:
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i get most of my protein through shakes now, it has much better bioavailability then meat chickn fish ect. although i do have meat but i would say 60% of protein comes from shakes. and whole eggs.




PWO nutrition so far:
75g waxymaize
1 scoop essentials
5g creatine
1 opened pill of glucose metabolic support (NOW)
15g BCAAS
1 opened pill of EQT2

20minutes after the above shake i have 27g pure WPI (species ISOLYZE)



workout today was as follows....
basically i do about 4 sets of each and the very last exercise i just burn it out.
Incline bench (im not gunna bother with warm up sets)
205 x 4

Flat DB fly
50x 8

Incline DB bench
100 x 4

Cable cross (one arm at a time)
60 x 10

Incline machine press (high)
110 x 20
 
nutrition again.....

1.5 cup cooked rice ( coconut fried rice with pinapple and chicken)
appox 5 ounces chicken meatloaf with 1 tablespoon olive oil..
 
crazyfool405 said:
i get most of my protein through shakes now, it has much better bioavailability then meat chickn fish ect. although i do have meat but i would say 60% of protein comes from shakes. and whole eggs.




PWO nutrition so far:
75g waxymaize
1 scoop essentials
5g creatine
1 opened pill of glucose metabolic support (NOW)
15g BCAAS
1 opened pill of EQT2

20minutes after the above shake i have 27g pure WPI (species ISOLYZE)



workout today was as follows....
basically i do about 4 sets of each and the very last exercise i just burn it out.
Incline bench (im not gunna bother with warm up sets)
205 x 4

Flat DB fly
50x 8

Incline DB bench
100 x 4

Cable cross (one arm at a time)
60 x 10

Incline machine press (high)
110 x 20
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Nice workout bro.:thumbsup:
 
nutrition:

small peice of homemade cake (i had to eat it so it didnt get wasted!!!! lol) this will most likely be the last of the sweets. until sunday when i have a decent cheat meal

and a protein shake (30g carb 50g protein 30g fat) fat coming from olive oil, carbs from weight control oatmeal.

3 hours later
6ounce cooked chicken
1 heaping table sppon rigotta cheese
1 table spoon olive oil
maybe about 6 ounces cooked whole wheat pasta
 
you got some good size just need to tighten up a lil bit. Back has serious monster potential, pretty wide. tris trap and forearms i say need the most work. your end of cycle pics are going to be like night and day im thinking. keep blasting it bro! reps
 
pistonpump said:
you got some good size just need to tighten up a lil bit. Back has serious monster potential, pretty wide. tris trap and forearms i say need the most work. your end of cycle pics are going to be like night and day im thinking. keep blasting it bro! reps
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you think i should keep doing what im doing for lats?? or switch it up?

i hope the end cycle pics will looks like night and day, as long as i keep my nutrition how its been going i think i should gain quite well.
 
pistonpump said:
what are you doing for lats and back?
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Width:
Rack Chins
DC style seat row for lats (hard to explain)
Lat pulls
weighted pullups (not every workout once every few weeks)

Thickness:
Underhand bent over rows EOW
Deadlift or Rack deadlift EOW.

i do 2 width exersices and one thickness exercise per week (switching between deads and UHBOR, i find my lower back recovers much better this way, also on the weeks i do UHBOR ill do SLDL for hamstrings.)
 
i would keep the underhand rows or tbar rows in there each week. rotate shrugs and deads eow or just the deads eow. idk, how does that sound for you.
 
pistonpump said:
i would keep the underhand rows or tbar rows in there each week. rotate shrugs and deads eow or just the deads eow. idk, how does that sound for you.
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sounds ok, ill just be burnt by the time i have to hit shoulders lol.

i dont do shrugs, but i guess i can add em in.

im gunna start doing farmers walks though which will help forearm and trap development (which day should i do this? leg day?)

thanks for the input. im always oopen to new ideas.
 
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