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Help! Blood work came back not good...

Big BAMA said:
I would last about five seconds because I would tell people they can save about 50% by ordering from Nutraplanet!
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i work at a franchise gnc, and the owner must have somethin against bodybuilding because he never carries anythin "good" even though corp. gncs rarely do either... but i end up writing down nutraplanet.com and or anabolicminds.com every few days on a receipt to guys lookin for "stuff that works"
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call me a horrible salesman, or call me a good samaritan saving peoples wallets
 
smshannon001 said:
i work at a franchise gnc, and the owner must have somethin against bodybuilding because he never carries anythin "good" even though corp. gncs rarely do either... but i end up writing down nutraplanet.com and or anabolicminds.com every few days on a receipt to guys lookin for "stuff that works"
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call me a horrible salesman, or call me a good samaritan saving peoples wallets
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Lol, I think you may be a good salesman but just working for the wrong company :thumbsup:.
 
smshannon001 said:
i work at a franchise gnc, and the owner must have somethin against bodybuilding because he never carries anythin "good" even though corp. gncs rarely do either... but i end up writing down nutraplanet.com and or anabolicminds.com every few days on a receipt to guys lookin for "stuff that works"
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call me a horrible salesman, or call me a good samaritan saving peoples wallets
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Haha, that's great. I like that.

Its almost pleasing to know that GNC sells bunk products. In that scenario, you won't have cases of kids or teenagers coming in and abusing something that could seriously be detrimental to their health. OD'ing on creatine, or misusing creatine, is way better than what we all know can happen. I'm sure you would give the proper info for supports and PCT, but the vast majority of people I've seen at GNC and Vitamin Shoppe just don't have the slightest clue what is what. Seems like that was unfortunately the case for the OP.

The more you get into training, the more you seek knowledge IMO. That's when they come to these online forums... its the kids that just want the easy way out that stop in at GNC for the "quickest fix".... not to say they don't exist online, but at least they will have the proper chance to be educated on the choice.
 
there should be about 3 more sales on kwik karb 3.3 lb on nutraplanet.com after today... sadly today was my last day at GNC (goin back to school soon and its out of town)
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have an interview with a vitamin shop in san diego on wednesday (transferrin' to the enemy!)
 
Nabisco said:
I'm a little surprised to see everyone telling him to finish his bottle of Methyl-V, which is an incredibly toxic mix of oral anabolic steroids.

And I'm even more surprised that when he found out they were steroids his first concern was being able to finish his $60.00 bottle of steroids. You put $60 over your general health and well being? You're not concerned that you took an incredibly toxic concoction without any form of post cycle support, only whether or not you can finish your current bottle of steroids?

Dude, read those beginner guides to PCT. When you get done with them, re-read them again. Understand the process your body is being put through, its for your health and safety. All anyone ever wants to know is what can I buy to fix it? I would strongly suggest getting your bloodwork done AGAIN after you finish at least 45 days worth of PCT. Because there is no guarantee that the advice given by these fine gentlemen is a cure-all for everyone.

Boy, things have changed since I first started here on AM. And I'm not sure for the better.
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I would have to agree. Being at GNC kids have come in finishing a SD cylce asking for Novedex (if that at times). But to keep up a harsh cycle like this, with the test results hes recieving seems crazy. proper PCT immediately.
 
footster said:
I would have to agree. Being at GNC kids have come in finishing a SD cylce asking for Novedex (if that at times). But to keep up a harsh cycle like this, with the test results hes recieving seems crazy. proper PCT immediately.
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Test low due to suppression b/c he's currently on cycle... this is normal if you've ever seen midcycle bloodwork test values. I suggest he stays on it until his PCT supplies are in and then runs a proper PCT. I advised him to take probably 6 months off form any hormonal compounds after his PCT.
 
Big BAMA said:
It is, but shops that had it on the shelf before the ban haven't gotten rid of it. They are selling what they have and not getting more
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No, it's not banned yet. Could be 30, 60, or 90 days after July 24th deadline... it's coming soon though.
 
Well I wish you luck on recovery after this bro. It seems every one else already touched base on everything. So nothing I can really add lol. The people here will take good care of you. AM members who have been around know more than most of your docs will....

But I would advise against finishing the bottle....its one of them mixer roids, just not good. If you are going to run, do it with individual products you can balance.
 
You could also use arimatest as your PCT. It is a VERY strong 6 bromo compound consisting of both alpha and beta isomers. It's very good as far as maintaining muscle size and strength. The onlly issue I have with it is the slight changes in blood pressure.
 
Big BAMA said:
Wow, It never ceases to amaze me that people will put stuff into their bodies and have no Idea what it is.
Good Luck buddy, Go to the PCT Forum in the Steroid section here and READ, and Listen to the advise you have already received. And for God's sake do some research next time before you take something like this.
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I second this...don't just ****ing take something if you don't know what it is or how it will affect your body...your probably going to end up with ****ed up hormones for a while and maybe even a little gyno...which all could have possibly been avoided if you did a little RESEARCH before taking a ph/ds.....im sorry to hear about your situation bro...however this is the kinda **** that really pisses me off, ignorant individuals being irresponsible with serious chemical compounds

This is why cycle prep( ie. research, diet,training and supplement scheduling) and obtaining all your support supplements is so important... just MHO
 
Just an update to my progress, I've been on my PCT for a few weeks, and I feel great! I have blood work scheduled for Sept. 24th, and I'm going to talk to my Endo(whatever) about what I can and shouldn't do. He seems really knowledgeable regarding these chemical compounds.

Here is my PCT:

Novadex XT: 2x nightly
Tribulus: 500mg 2x daily
Longfolia Jack:50mg 2x daily
Maca: 300mg 2x daily
Mulra Puama: 250mg 2x daily
7-Methoxyisoflavone: 200mg daily
Milk Thistle (standardized): 1500mg daily
Co-enzyme 10: 30mg daily
Red Yeast Rice: 1400mg x2 daily

I'm trying to stay as natural as possible (hence all the natural stuff). My Endo can prescribe me something if I need a drug. I'm thinking of just telling him I want my test levels to be minimum 1500 micrograms/dl and see what he says about that...

Feedback?
 
He probably would put you on some pharmaceutical test booster such as androgel patch or a clomid or hcg. But, he will only even consider this if your test levels are way below normal levels for your age.
 
well, my test levels were 74 micrograms/dl.

"normal" for my age is somewhere around 800-1000.

I have similiar testosterone levels to that of a 16 year old girl.

Hopefully, this PCT will take care of it though!
 
RReuphoria said:
well, my test levels were 74 micrograms/dl.

"normal" for my age is somewhere around 800-1000.

I have similiar testosterone levels to that of a 16 year old girl.

Hopefully, this PCT will take care of it though!
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lol.............sorry man.

your statement about the 16 y/o girl got me chucklin.

I hope your pct helps/works for you. Please keep us informed.

good luck man.
 
UPDATE:

On September 24th, I had a visit with an Endocrinologist (extremely brilliant and cool guy!). I had the following tests preformed...

Total Testosterone
Free Testosterone
LH Level
Prolactin Level
Thyroid panel

It was a LOT of blood which sucked, but, I received word of my tests today. I'm going to cut & paste a portion of the e-mail from my doctor:

"I wanted to inform you of your lab values. I would be happy to do that over e-mail if you like. Please respond to this e-mail and I will give you the values. However, you must understand that e-mail is not a secure form of communication and the e-mail may be read by others. If you are willing to take that chance, I am happy to give you the actual values over e-mail. I will tell you, everything was fine. With one exception. I would like for you to stop the testosterone booster drug that you were on. You definitely do not need to boost your testosterone level any more."

So, I just replied letting him know that it is fine to send me the values by e-mail. I don't expect that I will have them until Monday. However, it seems like my testosterone was very high from the way I understand that.

We'll just have to wait for the numbers!

Lessons learned so far:

1) I'm a moron for not doing research and listening to a guy at GNC regarding prohormones.

2) I'm getting "smarter" by using this wealth of knowledge on Anabolicminds! You guys all rock and I couldn't have received better advise!

3) Lab tests are F-ing expensive.

4) Every now and then, you get a really good doctor that seems genuinely committed to helping you reach your biological goals.

5) The PCT I was taking was cheap, effective, and regardless of what you hear, Novedex XT apparently does something. How much of something will wait until Monday I guess :(

But once again thank you to everyone that gave me advise. Hopefully I can pass on the information I learned from you guys to some other newbie!
 
Values:

Everything was within safe limits. The only significant aspect is my total testosterone is slightly above normal range:

Test (1) Testosterone Total:

873 ng/dl (Refrange: 264 - 823 ng/dl)

Test (2) Testosterone (T4) FREE:

0.90 ng/dl (refrange: 0.70 - 1.90 ng/dl)
 
Whew,.. I was scared for ya,... but it's lookin' good so far. The advice on this site is overwhelmingly OUTSTANDING,... so many helpful people,,... I can just feel the love!!!
 
wow just read this whole thread..i was scared for you man.

lesson: before you take anything..figure out wat it is first. is it a natural test booster, is a steroid..or a bunch of crap mixed together to make an energy supplement?

i would continue the pct for a lil bit more because everything might look fine for 4 weeks and then all hell breaks lose again. so just keep an eye out for things.
 
From what I've read Novedex XT/ATD metabolites might show up as T in lab results. If that's the case, your total T levels could still be around the low end of the ref range. Just a thing to consider.
 
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