HELP/ADVICE NEEDED

farrk007

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I'm in desperate need of suggestions for weight loss.
in my late 40s waist line ballooned over the years
but I'm back in the gym at least 3times a week with about 30mins of cardio before light weights each workout. don't eat that much but definitely need to work on cutting out more carbs.
so far I'm not getting the results I'm looking for. have some "supplements" but was hesitant to begin a cycle thinking I don't need "help"...but now I think I do.
have access to some Anavar 10, Boldo, Testo C, Deca and Clen.
Clen I know quite well though I've never used....could benefit from that as I do have breathing issues but my concern with that is hbp, Don't need that elevating any higher.
I'm NOT asking for a cheat here guys I'm willing to put in the sweat equity just need to know which of these can help plus how to stack . been sitting on them for months thinking I wouldn't have to but with weight tracking north close to 400 the last 15lbs in 6 months I'm at my wits end.
I'd tried ostarine and Ibutamoren as well but I'm not sure if that was the right thing.
Thanks
 
I wouldn't cycle sh17 at 400 pounds.

loose more body fat first. BF and anabolic's can lead to disastrous effects. when your BF is so high, you will have higher circulating estrogen and adding in steroids will exacerbate the issue.

bump up the cardio to 5-6 times per week on top of the lifting sessions. lower carbs if you want but ultimately you need to reign in your diet to succeed
 
Drugs and Supps is not the answer. Hard work in the gym, a detailed eating plan, and patience is key.
If you are in the 400 lb range, dont touch any drugs.
Get a correct eating plan...
 
Imagine inadvertently approaching 400lbs & genuinely believing anabolic steroids, which are medically prescribed to promote weight gain, would be the necessary solution to desperately lose weight 🫠

OMAD - One Meal A Day, within a set calorie limit and small timeframe, combined with bouts of extended fasting is what you need. This will reverse your diabetes & cardiovascular disease and help restore your health:

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ReformedNerd said:
Sounds like it's time to start tracking your caloric intake.
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Key to success and consistency is tracking calories. No matter the goal even if bulking I will track my calories and weight.
 
Hyde said:
Imagine inadvertently approaching 400lbs & genuinely believing anabolic steroids, which are medically prescribed to promote weight gain, would be the necessary solution to desperately lose weight 🫠

OMAD - One Meal A Day, within a set calorie limit and small timeframe, combined with bouts of extended fasting is what you need. This will reverse your diabetes & cardiovascular disease and help restore your health:

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@farrk007 this is sage advice
 
farrk007 said:
Thoroughly grateful! exactly what my inner thoughts were. I will follow these recommendations.
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We are talking about lifestyle changes here, not a 5 month diet. They will give you your health & strength back, and help you avoid heart disease and very possibly live another 20-30 years - being able to go where you want & do what you want, without excess knee/hip/back pain or worrying about blood clots from flying or being too tired to do anything. Being able to sit on any chair you see, not having to turn back from stairs, and being able to breathe at night!

Also, if you don’t have a CPAP, get one! There may come a day when you won’t need one, but for now it will greatly improve your sleep, reduce risk of cardiac events, lower blood pressure, improve rate of fat loss & energy levels.

Nobody said this would be easy - they only said it would be worth it.
 
Hyde said:
Imagine inadvertently approaching 400lbs & genuinely believing anabolic steroids, which are medically prescribed to promote weight gain, would be the necessary solution to desperately lose weight 🫠

OMAD - One Meal A Day, within a set calorie limit and small timeframe, combined with bouts of extended fasting is what you need. This will reverse your diabetes & cardiovascular disease and help restore your health:

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love omad! also might could try 18/6 intermittant fasting combined with keto. i have lost extreme weight with that combo.
 
johnny412 said:
love omad! also might could try 18/6 intermittant fasting combined with keto. i have lost extreme weight with that combo.
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I didn’t want to get too far into the weeds with specifics, but yes I completely agree and have seen it work without keto, just keeping the carbs low and sources to veggies, fibrous fruits and berries, and occasionally sweet potatoes or rolled oats before or after training.

Fatty fish, whole eggs, avocado, Greek yogurt (no sugar) nuts like pecans/walnuts/almonds, and veggies & greens, being the foundation.
 
Hyde said:
I didn’t want to get too far into the weeds with specifics, but yes I completely agree and have seen it work without keto, just keeping the carbs low and sources to veggies, fibrous fruits and berries, and occasionally sweet potatoes or rolled oats before or after training.

Fatty fish, whole eggs, avocado, Greek yogurt (no sugar) nuts like pecans/walnuts/almonds, and veggies & greens, being the foundation.
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yessir! love it! it dropped my bp crazy low too
 
johnny412 said:
yessir! love it! it dropped my bp crazy low too
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Same here. I also added in cardio 30 minutes zone 2 three to four times a week. That really helped with bp.
 
I've definitely started making changes ..no refined sugars..No carbs, added quinoa, mostly eggs, chicken, pork, and lots of vegetables and fruits.
not so bad...definitely feel lighter/better. These carbs though.... & they said crack was addictive!

I'm grateful to everyone!!
 
farrk007 said:
I've definitely started making changes ..no refined sugars..No carbs, added quinoa, mostly eggs, chicken, pork, and lots of vegetables and fruits.
not so bad...definitely feel lighter/better. These carbs though.... & they said crack was addictive!

I'm grateful to everyone!!
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Fruit, vegetables, and quinoa are all excellent healthy sources of carbs. You should keep eating those. Eat veggies of some kind with EVERY meal, lots of them.

Carbohydrates are not really the problem. Added sugar, vegetable oils, and processed food in general is the problem! They are exceptionally easy to consume without satisfying you, and addictive - therefore you will overeat.

Sounds like you are on the right path
 
yes, just use Olive oil now, plan is to use that exclusively...as far as processed food goes, definitely cut out for now.
 
farrk007 said:
no refined sugars..No carbs, added quinoa, mostly eggs, chicken, pork, and lots of vegetables and fruits.
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This right here will get you results for sure!
 
farrk007 said:
I've definitely started making changes ..no refined sugars..No carbs, added quinoa, mostly eggs, chicken, pork, and lots of vegetables and fruits.
not so bad...definitely feel lighter/better. These carbs though.... & they said crack was addictive!

I'm grateful to everyone!!
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Fruits, veg and quinoa are carbs, but, dont fall victem to the carb thing. No one gets fat from carbs, ppl get fat from eating too much food. 500 calories from fat is no different then 500 cal from carbs and selecting the right carbs (which you have) will provide you with micronutrients that fat wont.

Also, go look at 500 calories worth of fat sources, it will fit in the palm of your hand, not very filling. But 500cal from berries and oats is a big ass bowl of food.

I dont want to overcomplicate things. But i've always felt when people have a lot of weight to lose that starting with keto is a horrible idea, It's how I see people balloon back up the fastest because you've gone to a huge elimination, Eliminating a macro group, and then where do you go next?

When ppl really count there calories to a T, weightloss is a 100% Guarantee.
 
Im not a expert on fat loss, but for the last 2 years ive been doing mealplans and programs for 8-10 ppl at a time and almost all of them are focused on weightloss. Im not trying to sell you something or offer services, im simply saying I feel my strong point is helping ppl loose weight and something everyone needs to rember is time. If it took someone 6 years to gain 100lbs you cant expect To fix six years of mistakes in six months. Make a intelligent plan and stick to it. And knowing your actual calories on a day Where you're just eating normal and eating whatever you want Would be greatly beneficial because it'll tell you the amount of food that it took to get you to wear your rat now.And that's where you want to start making reductions from. You don't want to take someone who is eating 4k cals a day and go straight to a 2k cal diet. And you cant go from the couch to jogging 10miles a week and lifting 5x week. Gotta make small consistsnt adjustments so you dont burn out. Good luck. Sometimes starting a journal or log can help you on your journey
 
Smont said:
You don't want to take someone who is eating 4k cals a day and go straight to a 2k cal diet. And you cant go from the couch to jogging 10miles a week and lifting 5x week.
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Agreed completely with this. It has to be a slow gradual change or people won't stick with it.
 
Drugs and supps ain’t the answer. The answer is , hard work, consistency ,good nutrition & steady strength training. Dont be lazy. You got yourself to 400 lbs now work your ass to reach your goal. It’s a rewarding feeling
 
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I know this thread is a month old but I just wanted to add to anyone who is significantly overweight and considering using AAS for fat loss or recomp purposes; the short answer is don't. When you are grossly overweight and have a high bodyfat percentage, your body's hormone signaling system is already out of order and in total disarray. By taking exogenous hormones (which are chemical signalers/messengers), you are just going to tax your body and make the already dismal signaling system worse. What this essentially means is that you may see very little to no positive effect of the AAS you are taking but will experience the full force of all the negative side effects.

There is no way around it; you have to bring down your bodyfat the hard way through diet, exercise, and proper rest.
 
Ive struggled with weight for many years and have tried just about every diet fad under the sun. Many have worked, but none were sustainable. I have finally settled with the fact that if I will sustain a lean physique, I need to forever rely on the kitchen scale. The only solution I have found is weighing and logging everything I consume (I use the Chronometer app).

My most recent strategy has worked very well for me the past 5-6 months:

1. Determine your total daily caloric expenditure necessary to sustain my weight - in your case, I wouldn't even bother because of your weight. If I were you, I would start with a daily target of 2500-3500 calories.
2. Remain on this target for a few weeks and see what happens, make any necessary adjustments up or down depending on how it feels.
3. Build your diet around your caloric needs with foods that you enjoy (minus junk). There is no "magic food or diet" that causes weight loss. The only thing that matters here is thermodynamics: calories in < calories out.
4. Continue with daily cardio - I have been doing 45 minutes on the elliptical daily since August and at this point its a solid part of my routine that I no longer resent.
5. My wife and I always eat dinner together and she should not have to be on a diet with me. Because of this, I eat low calorie all day and leave myself about 1,300 calories for dinner so I can enjoy a nice big meal with her.
6. Avoid eating out - its a toss up as far as what and how much of it you are putting in your body. Not to mention it is a waste of $$.
7. Stay away from anabolics and/or clen/T3. At your current fat level, a strong diet and cardio regimen will work wonders for many months. Think of anabolics and supplements as a hand of cards that you have, available to be played. You never throw down your cards all at once because when things stagnate, you have an empty hand. Those are for later when you are fairly lean and fat loss has become extremely difficult or slow.

No one can give you a diet that works for you because a diet that "works" needs to be sustainable. For it to be sustainable, it needs to consist of stuff you like and enjoy, in moderation. White-knuckling a diet that you do not enjoy will only take you so far - and then what? You will get a lot more benefit and education from figuring out your diet on your own. The only, literally ONLY key you need to remember is to eat less calories then what you burn.
 
neutrino said:
Ive struggled with weight for many years and have tried just about every diet fad under the sun. Many have worked, but none were sustainable. I have finally settled with the fact that if I will sustain a lean physique, I need to forever rely on the kitchen scale. The only solution I have found is weighing and logging everything I consume (I use the Chronometer app).

My most recent strategy has worked very well for me the past 5-6 months:

1. Determine your total daily caloric expenditure necessary to sustain my weight - in your case, I wouldn't even bother because of your weight. If I were you, I would start with a daily target of 2500-3500 calories.
2. Remain on this target for a few weeks and see what happens, make any necessary adjustments up or down depending on how it feels.
3. Build your diet around your caloric needs with foods that you enjoy (minus junk). There is no "magic food or diet" that causes weight loss. The only thing that matters here is thermodynamics: calories in < calories out.
4. Continue with daily cardio - I have been doing 45 minutes on the elliptical daily since August and at this point its a solid part of my routine that I no longer resent.
5. My wife and I always eat dinner together and she should not have to be on a diet with me. Because of this, I eat low calorie all day and leave myself about 1,300 calories for dinner so I can enjoy a nice big meal with her.
6. Avoid eating out - its a toss up as far as what and how much of it you are putting in your body. Not to mention it is a waste of $$.
7. Stay away from anabolics and/or clen/T3. At your current fat level, a strong diet and cardio regimen will work wonders for many months. Think of anabolics and supplements as a hand of cards that you have, available to be played. You never throw down your cards all at once because when things stagnate, you have an empty hand. Those are for later when you are fairly lean and fat loss has become extremely difficult or slow.

No one can give you a diet that works for you because a diet that "works" needs to be sustainable. For it to be sustainable, it needs to consist of stuff you like and enjoy, in moderation. White-knuckling a diet that you do not enjoy will only take you so far - and then what? You will get a lot more benefit and education from figuring out your diet on your own. The only, literally ONLY key you need to remember is to eat less calories then what you burn.
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thanks!! for the most part I've implemented just about all your suggestions, been in routine for the past few months now...closer to 300 now..I feel great and I'm stoked. i know its not going to come off overnight. but if i can lose in the next few months what I've already lost...I'll be even better.
I'm grateful for all the encouragement i got here...really awesome group here.
 
farrk007 said:
thanks!! for the most part I've implemented just about all your suggestions, been in routine for the past few months now...closer to 300 now..I feel great and I'm stoked. i know its not going to come off overnight. but if i can lose in the next few months what I've already lost...I'll be even better.
I'm grateful for all the encouragement i got here...really awesome group here.
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Oh its indeed an awesome trip man. I've had to come down from 300 a couple of times in my life and the process is highly addictive because the changes are so noticeable, especially in the beginning, even through clothes. The problem for me always comes when you get reasonably lean and decide to bulk because you have shrunk too much - I always end up gaining a significant amount of weight back. But I think I finally have it figured out after years of failure.
 
neutrino said:
Oh its indeed an awesome trip man. I've had to come down from 300 a couple of times in my life and the process is highly addictive because the changes are so noticeable, especially in the beginning, even through clothes. The problem for me always comes when you get reasonably lean and decide to bulk because you have shrunk too much - I always end up gaining a significant amount of weight back. But I think I finally have it figured out after years of failure.
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On avg (even though i gained back during the holiday fest/feasts) I seemed to be loosing 10-13lbs a month which from what I've read is avg. so at that rate its slow enough that the weight loss is gradual its also means i don't dump a lot at once that i feel the need to ever bulk up....EVER!! lol, this has been a painful process, But I'm happier now.
 
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