hdrol 8wks with mdrol

[beaver]

ok so im 27, 200lbs and very dedicated to bodybuilding. i've done mutiple cycles. i'm running hdrol at 75mg for 8wks. i'm looking to lean up and gain strength, which i know hdrol and diet/exercise can do. anyway in the past i don't feel the hdrol until wk4 and actually start seeing noticeable results. i was thinking
hdrol 8wks 75mg
mdrol 10/10-20/20
clomid-50/50/50/50
is the mdrol worth it or will it just lead to more sides?
also someone had mentioned not using the mdrol and doing this cycle to really cut me up
hdrol 75/75/75/75/75/75/75/75
epi 0/0/0/0/20/30/30/30
clomid 50/50/50/50

what do u think? hdrol/mdrol kickstart, hdrol/epi bridge or just hdrol?

 

[Bry17]

ok so im 27, 200lbs and very dedicated to bodybuilding. i've done mutiple cycles. i'm running hdrol at 75mg for 8wks. i'm looking to lean up and gain strength, which i know hdrol and diet/exercise can do. anyway in the past i don't feel the hdrol until wk4 and actually start seeing noticeable results. i was thinking
hdrol 8wks 75mg
mdrol 10/10-20/20
clomid-50/50/50/50
is the mdrol worth it or will it just lead to more sides?
also someone had mentioned not using the mdrol and doing this cycle to really cut me up
hdrol 75/75/75/75/75/75/75/75
epi 0/0/0/0/20/30/30/30
clomid 50/50/50/50

what do u think? hdrol/mdrol kickstart, hdrol/epi bridge or just hdrol?

First, I would not do 8wks of H-drol. I can't recommend that, but I also can't stop you. Try running Epi for 5 weeks and H-drol for 6, or something.

 

[mw1]

^^^^^^Agreed 6 weeks on a methyl is the most i would suggest.

 

[middleageguy]

^^^^^^Agreed 6 weeks on a methyl is the most i would suggest.

wm1 or Bry17, CEL Reps,

Would this also apply to Pulsing M-DROL? One of the theories of pulsing is a cycle can be extended and reduce the stresses on the system and sides effects. There are several desirable reasons for pulsing if it works for the individual.

But the fact that M-DROL is a methyl may exclude it from extending a “ Pulse Cycle of M-DROL “ to longer periods of time.

What is your take on this? In your opinion what length of time could one safely do a “ Pulse Cycle of M-DROL “? Given that they took Cycle Support and possibly an additional Liver Support.

 

[mw1]

I personally dont believe in the "pulsing" of any PH. Its kind of like putting your body on a hormonal rollercoaster.

 

[middleageguy]

I personally dont believe in the "pulsing" of any PH. Its kind of like putting your body on a hormonal rollercoaster.

That is why I said “if it works for the individual.”

I have done one M-DROL Pulse and did not “feel” a hormonal rollercoaster.
Not to say my body was not on a hormonal rollercoaster.

I felt great, and I only felt ON during my workouts Tuesday, Thursday & Saturdays. The rest of the time I did not have to deal with dosage or being ON every day.

But that was not my question.

My question was:
In your opinion what length of time could one safely do a “ Pulse Cycle of M-DROL “? Given that they took Cycle Support and possibly an additional Liver Support.

 

[Bry17]

5-6 weeks pulsed is the longest i'd pulse on m-drol.

 

[middleageguy]

5-6 weeks pulsed is the longest i'd pulse on m-drol.

Since M-DROL is a methyl, erring on the side of caution. I felt 5 or 6 weeks would be the max even if pulsing. This just confirms it.

The advice I see from CEL reps is was always very cautious. Spelling out if something is dangerous and outright not to do it. Always error’ing on the side of caution.

I’ve seen posts of advice to push dosages to the max and one can get hyped up and feel they need to do this to get results. Which can end up being downright dangerous.

I appreciate your advice and I think I will keep my future M-DROL Pulses to a length of no more than 5 weeks. Keeping the length of time on the low end of the max length, just to be cautious.

 

[middleageguy]

5-6 weeks pulsed is the longest i'd pulse on m-drol.

wm1 or Bry17, CEL Reps,
I have another question.

Each week I increase my M-DROL Dosage 5mg. By opening the capsule and taking half the contents. Starting week one at 10mg, then incrementing 5mg each week, with a maximum dosage of 30mg.

Is there any issue with empting the M-DROL capsule in your mouth and holding the contents in your mouth for a few minutes wishing it around with a little water, and then swallowing?

Quote taken about absorbing certain medicines under the tongue :

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Certain medicines, like Angina tablets for example, can be put under the tongue for rapid uptake. Because the skin under the tongue is very thin and allows the components in the medication to enter the bloodstream much faster than if ingested in the stomach, the method is preferred when a speedy reaction is required. This method is not suitable for all medicines, however. Some are designed specifically to work slowly.
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So could this be done with orals steroids, or are there issues as to why this should not be done?

 

[Bry17]

wm1 or Bry17, CEL Reps,
I have another question.

Each week I increase my M-DROL Dosage 5mg. By opening the capsule and taking half the contents. Starting week one at 10mg, then incrementing 5mg each week, with a maximum dosage of 30mg.

Is there any issue with empting the M-DROL capsule in your mouth and holding the contents in your mouth for a few minutes wishing it around with a little water, and then swallowing?

Quote taken about absorbing certain medicines under the tongue :

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Certain medicines, like Angina tablets for example, can be put under the tongue for rapid uptake. Because the skin under the tongue is very thin and allows the components in the medication to enter the bloodstream much faster than if ingested in the stomach, the method is preferred when a speedy reaction is required. This method is not suitable for all medicines, however. Some are designed specifically to work slowly.
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So could this be done with orals steroids, or are there issues as to why this should not be done?

I do not believe absorption is any problem for M-drol. On a pulse, you also aren't looking for a speedy absorption. You'll want it to absorb slowly so that it stays in your system until the next dose.

 

[middleageguy]

I do not believe absorption is any problem for M-drol. On a pulse, you also aren't looking for a speedy absorption. You'll want it to absorb slowly so that it stays in your system until the next dose.

Actually I want the M-DROL to act as quickly as possible and to clear my system as quickly as possible. Given that it has approximately a 6 hour half life, give or take. That’s the point of the pulse, to only act during workout and only during post recovery on the day of workout.

I wanted to know if you knew of any issues with empting the M-DROL capsule in your mouth and holding the contents in your mouth for a few minutes wishing it around with a little water, and then swallowing?

I have notated that I feel the effect within about 30min, and then I start my workout. Don’t know if it is entering the bloodstream much faster than when if ingested in the stomach, seems to be about the same. (This compound "superdrol" is fast acting and powerful potent stuff to say the least!! )

I just don’t want to be holding the M-DROL compound in my mouth for a few min if there was an issue with doing this.

I have read about how (Member unreal) mixes his superdrol with olive oil in a shot glass and swallows that in an attempt for the oils to help with the absorption.

 

[Bry17]

Actually I want the M-DROL to act as quickly as possible and to clear my system as quickly as possible. Given that it has approximately a 6 hour half life, give or take. That’s the point of the pulse, to only act during workout and only during post recovery on the day of workout.

It doesn't work that way bud. If it gets out of your system it's no longer active in the AR until your next dose, making it difficult to work in skeletal muscle for however long the inactive duration lasts. That puts the whole process on a rollercoaster, as mw said. During a pulse, you'll want enough in your system to last, but not enough to give you the sides seen with higher androgen blood levels (running it regular).

I wanted to know if you knew of any issues with empting the M-DROL capsule in your mouth and holding the contents in your mouth for a few minutes wishing it around with a little water, and then swallowing?

You can do it this way, but I personally don't think you'll notice much difference from taking it the capped way.

I have notated that I feel the effect within about 30min, and then I start my workout. Don’t know if it is entering the bloodstream much faster than when if ingested in the stomach, seems to be about the same. (This compound "superdrol" is fast acting and powerful potent stuff to say the least!! )

That's likely placebo. The only pre-wo steroids that you'll feel within a short period after dosing are ones that stimulate the central nervous system. DHT and it's natural derivatives such as stanodrol are good candidates for this because DHT is active in the CNS.

I have read about how (Member unreal) mixes his superdrol with olive oil in a shot glass and swallows that in an attempt for the oils to help with the absorption.

I also don't believe that will help.