I can tell you what I am personally doing and it is going great.
week 1 -8
Epistane on workout days 20 mg
POST Cycle Support on NON-workout days
Cycle support every day
Weeks 9 - 12
POST Cycle Support every day
Cycle Support every day.
So far up over 5 lbs and waist measurment is down BUT I am doing tons of cardio getting ready for a triathlon. I am up over 200lbs and strength is about the strongest I have ever been.
Best of luck with whatever you decide on, happy to help where I can if you need it.
CROWLER