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Havoc Cycle Suggestions welcomed

BigFish80

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I'm new to AM (this is my first post) and joined b/c of all of the useful info on Havoc and other supplements. I'm about 212lbs (~12-15% BF), 6'2", 26 years old, and looking to gain about 10 pounds of lean muscle while losing 7-10 lbs of fat on the back end of the cycle. I am a very experienced lifter who played college Div 1A football and also a Cert. PT with a BS in Nutrition. This will not be my first prohormone stack I've done, but its been a while. When I come off this stack I will be staring down the barrell of a Triathlon at the end of Sept that I'm doing just for fun . I've done all the research, read all the posts on havoc, and even read T1's Havoc Write up so just looking for extra advice at this point, and making sure I have everything just right. Here is the cycle I am looking at starting.

PreCycle
2 weeks of Cycle Support, Super Cissus, multi's,etc.

CYCLE
wk1: Havoc 20mg, Super Cissus, Cycle Support
wk2: Havoc 30mg, Super Cissus, Cycle Support
wk3: Havoc 30mg, Super Cissus, Cycle Support
wk4: Havoc 40mg, Super Cissus, Cycle Support
wk5: 11-OXO 450mg, Super Cissus, Cycle Support
wk6: 11-OXO 450mg, Super Cissus, Cycle Support

PTC
wk7: Nolva 40mg, Cissus, Post Cycle Support, LeanXtreme, ActivaTe Extreme, CS

wk8: Nolva 30mg, Cissus, Post Cycle Support, LeanXtreme, ActivaTe Extreme, CS

wk9: Nolva 20mg, Cissus, Post Cycle Support, LeanXtreme, ActivaTe Extreme, CS

wk10:Nolva 10mg, Cissus, Post Cycle Support, LeanXtreme, ActivaTe Extreme, CS

In addition, I will be taking glutamine, multi's, fish oils, Taurine, Myoplex RTD's (post wo), Syntha 6 protein and ZMA for the duration of the cycle. My diet will be on point for the cycle through the duration as well. I was thinking of adding in SuperPump 250 and SizeOn to the PTC, or would that be to much??? Should I leave something out or add others in to the mix? Any advice from you experienced havoc users will be much appreciated. I should be starting to preload by the end of the week. Thanks for helping out the new guy.

BigFish80
 
Thanks again. I went ahead copied this thread into the Steroid forum. Bring on the advice.

Looks pretty good man. I'm currently running Havoc and was planning on a 4 week cycle (20/30/40/40), however I just started feeling it at 2.5 weeks in so I am going to add two weeks so it will be more like 20/30/40/40/40/50. I didn't feel like ten days worth of "feeling it" was enough. Just food for thought.
 
That was a suggestion from an ergopharm rep. He recommended 4 weeks of 11-oxo and then pct, but I only had 1 bottle of it lying around. What would you suggest? Take it out or add it to pct? Also any thought on the superpump and sizeon during pct?
 
can't really comment on 11-oxo, never really used it before. I just dont get a break between the cycle and PCT. All the usefullness of doing PCT might be negated by the 2wk break.

and the superpump/sizeon would be fine in pct
 
Anyone else out there with any good ideas? Especially in regards to where I should place the 11-oxo in this cycle, or even put it in there at all.:frustrate
 
Thanks Jayhawkk. So then what would be a good future use for the 11-oxo? What if I just took out the wk5 and wk6. Then went straight into pct. Does everything else look in line? Thanks for the help.
 
Dsade is the best guy to help tailor a cycle, it is his baby, after all! A 4 week cycle is a great one to use. I've used it myself and had great results. My PCT didn't include a lot of estrogen reducing agents in a typical dose ( i used less) as much as items like cycle support.
 
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