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Havoc Cycle Help!!!!!!!

abzura

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Okay so this is going to be my first prohormone cycle. I know havoc isn't the best first prohormone cycle to do but its all i have access to. I also do not have access to a SERM so I will be using cycle support, reversitol, and a test booster for my PCT. My dosing will be 10 for the 3 days, then 20 for the nest 4 days, then 30 for the next 7, then 40/40 for the next 2 weeks. What type of results will I see and what are the chances of gyno to pop up? Please try not to criticize......I really need help I have done a lot of research but I just wanted more opinions so if you can help in any way please do.
 
There are no ways we can predict what results you'll get or your chances of gyno. If we make a ton of assumptions, we can say that you should gain like, 8 pounds or so, and the chances of gyno should be pretty low. But honestly, that's bull****, only you can determine what you'll get out of the cycle.
 
yeah. most important part is diet. what is your diet going to look like for this? That'll tell me more about how much someone is going to gain than their cycle.
 
haha well my diet im looking at around 3500 to 4000 calories with at least 1.5-2g of protein per pound. Im gonna train 4-5 times a week hardcore. I eat healthy for the most part i just have a hard time getting my calorie count up i slack and sometimes only get 2500 calories a day =/
 
looks like a goodly amount of calories for your weight, strive to be consistent about it though. If you are consistently getting that many cals then i expect you'll gain pretty well.
 
yea consistency is the key.......most important thing probs when it comes to training and nutrition. I try to stay consistent but its hard ill probs be very strict and consistent throughout the cycle to gain as much as i can
 
i recommend a serm...like i was told...if you can get steroids you can get a serm...i thought it was hard to get a serm but with time and research you can access a good source... best of luck
 
yea good point.....ill be looking hard for a serm....hopefully with time ill find what i need also......but if not, will reversitol and cycle support and a test booster be enough?
 
people get away with it and some people regret not having a serm on hand...its up to the individual....i dont wanna say you will be fine and then something go wrong
 
once again there is no way to tell. You could run no PCT and be fine, you could run a comprehensive PCT and have rebound gyno. Nobody can predict the future.
 
Get a SERM to be on the safe side bro. I have seen first hand shutdown from Havoc. You are risking losing all of your on cycle gains without a proper PCT.
 
yeah i guess ill find out myself......ill try to find a serm just in case if anything happens but hopefully it wont be needed
 
Reversitol is a test booster, no?

I know some people stack it with other products and taper though...according to what theory they're following for the use of aromatase inhibitors during pct.

What product do you have in mind when saying you'll use a test booster?
 
I wish I had never taken havoc. I was like you and didn't have a SERM for PCT and I ended up with gyno. I didn't notice/mind it for awhile(a year or 2) because my bodyfat was around 15% but now that I cut down to 10% it looks awful. I'm having surgery next week to remove it. I've lost a good amount of muscle just from the lack of motivation and mental rollercoaster gyno has caused me and now I'll be out another 4 weeks because of the surgery.
 
stxnas said:
Reversitol is a test booster, no?

I know some people stack it with other products and taper though...according to what theory they're following for the use of aromatase inhibitors during pct.

What product do you have in mind when saying you'll use a test booster?
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I would most likely use Tribulus for the test booster and reversitol for the PCT. I am however going to try to find a SERM because I have heard a lot of reports of gyno with this cycle.
 
Im sorry to heard that DBee........Im glad you let me know what could happen with this cycle. I hope I wont happen to me
 
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