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harvard bans men from gym in favor of muslim females

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They have female only gyms ALL over the place that men cannot join. Is that wrong? You can't have a men-only gym. Is that bullcrap or is it because they are Muslim?
 
They aren't paying to go to all womens gyms, your tuition does pay for your gym membership ( atleast in most colleges I know of - SUNY ).

I think the point is they feel uncomfortable working out infront of men, I feel uncomfortable going into the the locker room with gross old naked dudes that are powdering their balls.

Wheres my time slot that says no gross old naked dudes with freshly powdered balls?
 
Their religious doctrine is the reason for their aversion. They are paying students, too. Shouldn't concessions be made for them? These questions are just me playing devil's advocate. Personally, I have to say that I'm on the fence about the whole situation. Since the beginning, so many things have benefitted only one kind of citizen. Now that an effort is being made to include everyone, people are crying foul or liberal this, hippy that. "'F' you and your religious beliefs" doesn't really sound American at all.
 
Bionic said:
They have female only gyms ALL over the place that men cannot join. Is that wrong? You can't have a men-only gym. Is that bullcrap or is it because they are Muslim?
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I know they have a all womens gym, but last I heard they CANT deny a membership for a guy. Granted the **** in those gyms no guy could EVER get huge if they tried. 5lbs dumbells, ankle weights. Bah
 
But, where does this stop? They don't want to be looked at, they shouldn't leave the house, IMO.

When my bodyfat is up, I don't tend to frequent pools and such as much as when my BF is low. Should I get my own slot for pool time because I suck?

Religion is just a cover.

Crackpots.

Also, I doubt we will be able to include 'everyone' in anything. It's just not possible. There will always be the offended and always be an offender.

EDIT: AND, considering the US gov't is supposed to be separate from church/religion, people that hold NO religious beliefs, such as myself, get the F-ing shaft. I get no special 'rights'.

Bionic said:
Their religious doctrine is the reason for their aversion. They are paying students, too. Shouldn't concessions be made for them? These questions are just me playing devil's advocate. Personally, I have to say that I'm on the fence about the whole situation. Since the beginning, so many things have benefitted only one kind of citizen. Now that an effort is being made to include everyone, people are crying foul or liberal this, hippy that. "'F' you and your religious beliefs" doesn't really sound American at all.
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Chad said:
and they wonder why everyone hates them.
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I don't think they wonder at all. I think they know that they suck. That makes it even worse.

Also, what ever happened to the good of the many > the good of the few? I'm not sure of the ethnic enrollment figures at any school, but I can't imagine that the gym is packed w/ Muslim women during that time slot. What? 5? 10? So, the greater majority lose out to concede to a handful of people.
 
ShakesAllDay said:
Religion is just a cover.

Crackpots.

Also, I doubt we will be able to include 'everyone' in anything. It's just not possible. There will always be the offended and always be an offender.
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But religion is protected by law. Certainly, it's impossible to please everyone. But should the needs of a particular group be ignored/dismissed just because it's unpopular?
 
ShakesAllDay said:
I don't think they wonder at all. I think they know that they suck. That makes it even worse.

Also, what ever happened to the good of the many > the good of the few? I'm not sure of the ethnic enrollment figures at any school, but I can't imagine that the gym is packed w/ Muslim women during that time slot. What? 5? 10? So, the greater majority lose out to concede to a handful of people.
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yes thay do suck!

well if the hate crimes start jumping i wont shed a tear.
 
Bionic said:
I'm really saddened by this statement. I just don't know what to say.
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I agree there.

Reminds me of the ignorance that still controls this world. <sigh> if only relgions didnt exist then we'd have nothing to argue about, then again i guess we always find something to hate on.

its like a chain

blacks then women then gays then muslims.

Muslim hatred is this seasons fad, next season its mexicans.
 
Bionic said:
Wait? HUH? Who are "They?" Muslims? Muslim women? Not "everybody" hates them. Come on now, man.
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Why do you hate america?

/either with us, or against us.

//Mmm...I like pie
 
Bionic said:
But religion is protected by law. Certainly, it's impossible to please everyone. But should the needs of a particular group be ignored/dismissed just because it's unpopular?
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I don't view it as a 'need'. They aren't going to die if they don't get their very own 3 hour spot in the gym.

I know what you are saying... but, I don't think the wants of a few should outweigh the wants of the many, religiously based or not.

I still think they should shut themselves in their house and not leave if it is such a problem. I've had a face full of zits before and I chose not to leave the house. I suppose that I should have petitioned that Wal-Mart let me have my own shopping spree with nobody else around because it makes me feel uncomfortable.

This whole 'religion' thing is such horse crap. I'm not dissing on the religions... whatever floats their boat. But, if religion keeps them from participating normally in a society they chose to join, that's just too f'ing bad.

And, who's to say what a 'religion' is? Is a higher power necessary? A certain number of adherent people? Length of existence? (this is a diff. topic, but somewhat goes along with the topic)

wrt the Muslim women feeling 'uncomfortable'... mark up another way in which religion keeps people 'in line', which is why I believe religion was started in the first place. That and to explain the unexplainable.
 
ShakesAllDay said:
I don't view it as a 'need'. They aren't going to die if they don't get their very own 3 hour spot in the gym.

I know what you are saying... but, I don't think the wants of a few should outweigh the wants of the many, religiously based or not.

I still think they should shut themselves in their house and not leave if it is such a problem. I've had a face full of zits before and I chose not to leave the house. I suppose that I should have petitioned that Wal-Mart let me have my own shopping spree with nobody else around because it makes me feel uncomfortable.

This whole 'religion' thing is such horse crap. I'm not dissing on the religions... whatever floats their boat. But, if religion keeps them from participating normally in a society they chose to join, that's just too f'ing bad.

And, who's to say what a 'religion' is? Is a higher power necessary? A certain number of adherent people? Length of existence? (this is a diff. topic, but somewhat goes along with the topic)

wrt the Muslim women feeling 'uncomfortable'... mark up another way in which religion keeps people 'in line', which is why I believe religion was started in the first place. That and to explain the unexplainable.
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:thumbsup:
 
Bionic said:
I'm really saddened by this statement. I just don't know what to say.
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i`m very sorry that makes you sad.

but the truth of the matter is that they feel the say way about us. there is no love loss. this PC bullsh!t we put on to look like we care is the sad thing.

do you really care if they get gym time alone?
do you really care if most Americans hate muslims?

this is OUR country!!!!!
i didnt join the Marines to defend muslims rights to have alone time at the fcuking gym!

they hate us yet we want to bend over backwards to make them comfy. :think::think::think:
 
Chad said:
i`m very sorry that makes you sad.

but the truth of the matter is that they feel the say way about us. there is no love loss. this PC bullsh!t we put on to look like we care is the sad thing.

do you really care if they get gym time alone?
do you really care if most Americans hate muslims?

this is OUR country!!!!! i didnt join the Marines to defend muslims rights to have alone time at the fcuking gym!

they hate us yet we want to bend over backwards to make them comfy. :think::think::think:
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Who are you referring to? How do you feel about puppies?
 
MashedPotato said:
I agree there.

Reminds me of the ignorance that still controls this world. <sigh> if only relgions didnt exist then we'd have nothing to argue about, then again i guess we always find something to hate on.

its like a chain

blacks then women then gays then muslims.

Muslim hatred is this seasons fad, next season its mexicans.
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"hate on"?

you think im hating on muslims?:lol:
 
Bionic said:
Who are you referring to? How do you feel about puppies?
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i love puppies!!!!

but i wouldn`t mind throwing a little muslim loving punk b!tch off a cliff.:thumbsup:

and if you dont know who i`m referring to then i dont have time to explain things to you. :yawn:
 
The carbs in those potatos are what's KILLING AMERICA! The only good potato is a SMASHED potato! Carb-loving punk b!tch!
 
Bionic said:
The carbs in those potatos are what's KILLING AMERICA! The only good potato is a SMASHED potato! Carb-loving punk b!tch!
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You see this is what im talking about. People hating on those mashed potatoes, i mean if you dont like it DONT EAT IT. Simple as that.

Those of us who do love mashed potatoes will have our lunch breaks extended by 2 hours as we feel uncomfortable eating infront of you haters.
 
Y'know, I didn't not join the Marines so carb-lovers could have their alone time with their starchy tubers.
 
"They have a gym at Harvard ...really?"

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test."
- US President George W. Bush (2000?)

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It's kind of amusing that you're mocking one of the best schools in our nation.
 
They have countries for Muslims where they are catered to concerning there religion. We fcuking made this country in the first place to be able to practice Christianity in the way we want. I'd love to see any of you guys who are so sympathetic to their plight go to fcuking Iraq or turkey, Iran, Syria, or any Muslim nation and see how quickly they cater to your needs. You'd either be getting drug through the street skinned alive while the public spit and pissed on you, or you'd be the star actor in a movie were you get your fcuking head sawed off on national TV while your family and friends watch in horror!
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!!!
 
I would like to hear what Harvard Professor Robert Putnam has to say about this, he recently discussed how diversity is not necessarily a good thing.
 
SureShot said:
I would like to hear what Harvard Professor Robert Putnam has to say about this, he recently discussed how diversity is not necessarily a good thing.
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Diversity just for the sake of diversity (forced diversity) is not a good thing at all.
 
Schism said:
They have countries for Muslims where they are catered to concerning there religion. We fcuking made this country in the first place to be able to practice Christianity in the way we want. I'd love to see any of you guys who are so sympathetic to their plight go to fcuking Iraq or turkey, Iran, Syria, or any Muslim nation and see how quickly they cater to your needs. You'd either be getting drug through the street skinned alive while the public spit and pissed on you, or you'd be the star actor in a movie were you get your fcuking head sawed off on national TV while your family and friends watch in horror!
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!!!
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^ factual evidence. :think:

BTW homie, this country was actually not ours to start with.
Study history, go overseas then come back with some factual evidence rather than "i saws it on tv so i did, so it must be tru! yak yak yak"
 
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dsade said:
Diversity just for the sake of diversity (forced diversity) is not a good thing at all.
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Well said matt. It's NOT a good thing at all. I work in the healthcare system where probably 30% of the people i encounter can't even speak english. That's where i draw the line. If you live in this country for MANY years yet refuse to learn the national language.... please exit stage left. No other foreign country would tolerate that crap.
 
Trauma1 said:
Well said matt. It's NOT a good thing at all. I work in the healthcare system where probably 30 of the people i encounter can't even speak english. That's where i draw the line. If you live in this country for MANY years yet refuse to learn the national language.... please exit stage left. No other foreign country would tolerate that crap.
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That i agree with. Its just courtesy.

I wouldnt go to germany and expect everyone to speak english.... same as i wouldnt go to canada and expect everyone to speak english ;) :p
 
Trauma1 said:
Well said matt. It's NOT a good thing at all. I work in the healthcare system where probably 30% of the people i encounter can't even speak english. That's where i draw the line. If you live in this country for MANY years yet refuse to learn the national language.... please exit stage left. No other foreign country would tolerate that crap.
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I could not agree more!
 
MashedPotato said:
That i agree with. Its just courtesy.

I wouldnt go to germany and expect everyone to speak english.... same as i wouldnt go to canada and expect everyone to speak english ;) :p
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But if we went to canada we'd adopt "EY" into our everyday language lol. ;)
 
Wait a minute. Harvard makes its least used gym women-only for 6 hours out of a whole week because they were politely asked to do so and you all explode as if this is going to lead to some slippery slope of the whole country being ran by muslims?

One time my friend politely asked me to stop bringing up a certain story. It wasn't that big of a deal to me, so I did.
 
Iron Warrior said:
I bet no Muslim country would make such accomodations for Christian women.
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Dude, they wouldn't need to, because in a Muslim country women already have their own gym hours. This is why the Muslims were asking for this in the first place.

Iron Warrior said:
Why must this crap go on in our country ? I'm getting sick of these brainwashed liberals who think they must please anyone who complains.
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Yes, Harvard, soooo liberal. Its alumni donations are so low because all these damn liberals graduating from there can't seem to hold jobs. Especially Scalia.
 
ShakesAllDay said:
I don't think they wonder at all. I think they know that they suck. That makes it even worse.

Also, what ever happened to the good of the many > the good of the few? I'm not sure of the ethnic enrollment figures at any school, but I can't imagine that the gym is packed w/ Muslim women during that time slot. What? 5? 10? So, the greater majority lose out to concede to a handful of people.
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I bet its less.... the article itself said the day the folks reporting this article went to the time slot not a single muslim woman was there.... great use of the two hours 10-20 non muslim dudes would have been using. This shiii policy will be watched and removed come its revision time since it was most likely a small activist group of women that dont even go to the gym and some who prob arent even muslim but just wanted a cause to sign a petition for.... This is **** but nothing can be done about it other then letting the tards up top realize they are wasting their own resources and pissing off the majority of the popuation in the mean time.

I could go off on all the other issues surrounding this but most have already said what I can...lets just say Im all for respect of ones beliefs as long as accomadating one wont infringe on anothers, this def does and if they want to have a place to workout in peace/seclusion then its their own responsibility to provide this with their own resources and locations that wont make others have to accomadate them by giving something up themselves.
 
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