Good thoughts fellows. When I cycle, I normally use test 250 and dbol or a mild PH. I don't go stack crazy or anything-Just something to give me that edge. I have heard a lot about shampoos and tonics so I may just go that route. It's not bad yet by any means, but I really don't know the future. I take mostly after my dad and he and his father have a full head of hair. My mom's side is another story!!