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H-Drol, Stano-Drol and D-Zine stack.

Before I post up my stack, I will list my stats. I'm 33 yrs. old, 196 lbs, 6 feet and have been in the scene for a while now. I have done AAS in the past, like ten years ago, but since then it has just been otc stuff. Along with my stack I am taking CEL's cycle assist, Himalaya liver care (version Liv.52), 1000 mg of vitamin C, and GNC's Mega Men on a daily basis along with my protein shakes and tons of water. Okay, now for my stack:

Stano-Drol = weeks 1-8 (450/450/600/600/600/600/600/600)
H-Drol = weeks 1-6 (50/50/75/75/75/75)
D-Zine = weeks 5-10 (30/30/45/45/45/45)
IBE Epistane = weeks 9-12 (40mg on Mon., Wed. and Fri.)
PCT Assist = weeks 11-16
Inhibit-E = weeks 13-16 (3/2/2/1)

Also in my pct, I will throw in some Reduce XT. Now since I am currently in Iraq, a serm like nolva or clomid is pretty much out of the question. And I have been doing extensive research on supplements to find a replacement for a SERM. T-911, Arimedex HD, AndroHard, Formex and even IBE epistane's claim to work. Also, would I need more of a test booster than what I already have? Any thoughts, changes, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Before I post up my stack, I will list my stats. I'm 33 yrs. old, 196 lbs, 6 feet and have been in the scene for a while now. I have done AAS in the past, like ten years ago, but since then it has just been otc stuff. Along with my stack I am taking CEL's cycle assist, Himalaya liver care (version Liv.52), 1000 mg of vitamin C, and GNC's Mega Men on a daily basis along with my protein shakes and tons of water. Okay, now for my stack:

Stano-Drol = weeks 1-8 (450/450/600/600/600/600/600/600)
H-Drol = weeks 1-6 (50/50/75/75/75/75)
D-Zine = weeks 5-10 (30/30/45/45/45/45)
IBE Epistane = weeks 9-12 (40mg on Mon., Wed. and Fri.)
PCT Assist = weeks 11-16
Inhibit-E = weeks 13-16 (3/2/2/1)

Also in my pct, I will throw in some Reduce XT. Now since I am currently in Iraq, a serm like nolva or clomid is pretty much out of the question. And I have been doing extensive research on supplements to find a replacement for a SERM. T-911, Arimedex HD, AndroHard, Formex and even IBE epistane's claim to work. Also, would I need more of a test booster than what I already have? Any thoughts, changes, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.


If you are going to include D-zine I don't recommend you do so without a SERM, but it's ultimately up to you. If you ran H-drol and Stano together without Dz you would still see significant gains and could get away with an OTC PCT. Your idea of PCT has gone in the wrong direction. Epistane and androhard are not PCT supplements, they are both hormones.

A good PCT for you would be DAA, PCT Assist, Reduce XT, and Arimidex HD/Formex/Inhibit E (all AI's). Cut out the t-911, androhard, epistane and two of the AI's and you will be g2g.
 
Okay, but isn't Androhard and Epistane good for preventing/getting rid of gyno?

It's not well studied enough to report anything that deems these claims valid. They are hormonal, so there is probably a greater chance of developing gyno with them rather than curing it.
 
If you are going to include D-zine I don't recommend you do so without a SERM, but it's ultimately up to you. If you ran H-drol and Stano together without Dz you would still see significant gains and could get away with an OTC PCT. Your idea of PCT has gone in the wrong direction. Epistane and androhard are not PCT supplements, they are both hormones.

A good PCT for you would be DAA, PCT Assist, Reduce XT, and Arimidex HD/Formex/Inhibit E (all AI's). Cut out the t-911, androhard, epistane and two of the AI's and you will be g2g.

Alright, so say I do find some clomid online and add it to my pct. I drop epistane from my stack but keep D-Zine in it. I prefer clomid over nolvadex because it's less toxic. Would running a test booster on cycle, like HCGenerate or anything else, help?
 
Alright, so say I do find some clomid online and add it to my pct. I drop epistane from my stack but keep D-Zine in it. I prefer clomid over nolvadex because it's less toxic. Would running a test booster on cycle, like HCGenerate or anything else, help?

Yes pick up some clomid if you're set on including D-zine. HCGenerate might help with on-cycle shutdown because of the Fadogia and Fenugreek, but idk because i've never run it; DAA works very well for the same purposes. Make sure you include PCT Assist, reduce xt/suppress-c, and an AI with your clomid in PCT.
 
Before I post up my stack, I will list my stats. I'm 33 yrs. old, 196 lbs, 6 feet and have been in the scene for a while now. I have done AAS in the past, like ten years ago, but since then it has just been otc stuff. Along with my stack I am taking CEL's cycle assist, Himalaya liver care (version Liv.52), 1000 mg of vitamin C, and GNC's Mega Men on a daily basis along with my protein shakes and tons of water. Okay, now for my stack:

Stano-Drol = weeks 1-8 (450/450/600/600/600/600/600/600)
H-Drol = weeks 1-6 (50/50/75/75/75/75)
D-Zine = weeks 5-10 (30/30/45/45/45/45)
IBE Epistane = weeks 9-12 (40mg on Mon., Wed. and Fri.)
PCT Assist = weeks 11-16
Inhibit-E = weeks 13-16 (3/2/2/1)

Also in my pct, I will throw in some Reduce XT. Now since I am currently in Iraq, a serm like nolva or clomid is pretty much out of the question. And I have been doing extensive research on supplements to find a replacement for a SERM. T-911, Arimedex HD, AndroHard, Formex and even IBE epistane's claim to work. Also, would I need more of a test booster than what I already have? Any thoughts, changes, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Running a methaled PH for 12 weeks is extremely unwise..and dangerous
 
If its ok to use otc for d-zine, why cant you stack stano with it?

It's perfectly ok to stack stano with d-zine, in fact that would probably work better. But, I don't think it's very safe to do so without a SERM. You will need to keep D-zine at 15-30mg and have a STRONG OTC PCT to get away with it IMO
 
I'm cutting out epistane from my stack and will be knocking off the last two weeks of D-Zine, so the longest that I will be on anything is eight weeks.

8 weeks on a methyl? I still feel like thats pushing it. Trust me over the years I had many , many email from users than experienced all kinds of problems from doing the longer cycle. The way i look at it is you can either take the "chance " with a longer cycle ,and possibly screw yourself up and run the risk of not being able to safely run anymore cycle ,OR play it safe so you can do more in the future.:ponder:
 
8 weeks on a methyl? I still feel like thats pushing it. Trust me over the years I had many , many email from users than experienced all kinds of problems from doing the longer cycle. The way i look at it is you can either take the "chance " with a longer cycle ,and possibly screw yourself up and run the risk of not being able to safely run anymore cycle ,OR play it safe so you can do more in the future.:ponder:

Have you had any positive experiences stacking a methyl and non-methyl pro hormone with an otc pct?
 
8 weeks on a methyl? I still feel like thats pushing it. Trust me over the years I had many , many email from users than experienced all kinds of problems from doing the longer cycle. The way i look at it is you can either take the "chance " with a longer cycle ,and possibly screw yourself up and run the risk of not being able to safely run anymore cycle ,OR play it safe so you can do more in the future.:ponder:

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Stano-Drol will be 8 weeks long, H-Drol will be 5 to maybe 6 weeks long and D-Zine only 4.
 
And what did you decide on PCT?

Trying to locate and get some clomid to include with my pct assist, DAA and reduce xt. I am going to try and also get some HCGenerate out here to use it for a on cycle tb. That should help with my 8 week stack.
 
So I am cutting D-Zine out of my stack and will do it at a later time. I will just stick with H-Drol and Stano-Drol. Now with that said, what do people recommend for a proper pct and dosage. Clomid and Nolvadex might be a problem sending out here since it's a liquid and needs to be injected into your body. But if I am able to, what's a good dosage and what would you stack it with, pct assist, reduce xt, daa...?

And thanks Bry17 for your help. I'm trying to respond to your pm but it won't send because your inbox is too full.
 
So I am cutting D-Zine out of my stack and will do it at a later time. I will just stick with H-Drol and Stano-Drol. Now with that said, what do people recommend for a proper pct and dosage. Clomid and Nolvadex might be a problem sending out here since it's a liquid and needs to be injected into your body. But if I am able to, what's a good dosage and what would you stack it with, pct assist, reduce xt, daa...?

And thanks Bry17 for your help. I'm trying to respond to your pm but it won't send because your inbox is too full.

The clomid you want is not the one injected. You use an oral syringe to swallow it. In other words, it's taken orally. :) Stack it with pct assist, reduce xt/suppress-c, and DAA and you will be g2g with stano and H-drol.
 
Im new to all this and this kind of info is what i like to see. Im going to be running an h drol cycle later on this year and I am considering just running h drol by itself with an over the counter pct any opinions and suggestions are wanted
 
Im new to all this and this kind of info is what i like to see. Im going to be running an h drol cycle later on this year and I am considering just running h drol by itself with an over the counter pct any opinions and suggestions are wanted

can you outline how you will run it?
 
If you had two bottles of tes and you could take breaks from the orals that cycle could work but regardless it would need a serm in pct. Way too much stuff for too long not to use one in pct

Your in over your head bro. Tame things down a bit
 
So after further discussion with members on this board and more research, this is what I cut my stack down to along with a new pct:

Stano-Drol = weeks 1-8 (450/450/600/600/600/600/600/600)
H-Drol = weeks 1-6 (50/50/75/75/75/75)

PCT
Clomid = 100ml for the first 3 days; 50ml a day for the next 2 weeks; 25ml a day for the last 2 weeks or 100/100/50/50/25?
PCT Assist = weeks 1-6 as directed
DAA = weeks 1-6 (8/8/8/4/4/4)
Inhibit-E = weeks 1-4 (3/2/2/1)
Reduce XT = weeks 3-6 (6/4/3/2)

Also, I have fish oil and some CGT-10 that I am including in my cycle.

Any changes or suggestions to my pct?
 
So after further discussion with members on this board and more research, this is what I cut my stack down to along with a new pct:

Stano-Drol = weeks 1-8 (450/450/600/600/600/600/600/600)
H-Drol = weeks 1-6 (50/50/75/75/75/75)

PCT
Clomid = 100mg for the first 3 days; 50mg a day for the next 2 weeks; 25mg a day for the last 2 weeks or 100/100/50/50/25?
PCT Assist = weeks 1-6 as directed
DAA = weeks 1-6 (8/8/8/4/4/4)
Inhibit-E = weeks 1-4 (3/2/2/1)
Reduce XT = weeks 3-6 (6/4/3/2)

Also, I have fish oil and some CGT-10 that I am including in my cycle.

Any changes or suggestions to my pct?

Bolded^ is correct.

You could probably wait on the inhibit-e and start it week 2. There will likely be more estrogen circulating in week 2 to block. Also take daa down to 6/6/6/3/3/3. Everything else looks great
 
can you outline how you will run it?

This is what im thinking, let me know what you think.
h-drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
E-stane 0/0/20/30/40/40
with some cycle assist.
then pct this is what i had in mind
reversitol 3/2/2/1/0/0
inhibit-e 2/2/1/1/0/0
then bio forge after two weeks and take it two weeks after i finish with reversitol and inhibit-e.
 
This is what im thinking, let me know what you think.
h-drol 50/50/75/75/75/75
E-stane 20/30/30/30/0/0
with some cycle assist.

then pct this is what i had in mind
liquid clomiphene 50/50/25/25 (jumpstart if you wish)
PCT-Assist [5 to 6 weeks] -6 capsules a day, 3 spaced out at breakfast and dinner
inhibit-e 0/2/1/1/1
^I have rearranged a few things and given my idea of a good PCT for you.

I don't generally like the idea of stacking two methyl's but i've seen it done safely. Cut out the reversitol, it's unnecessary. No reason to take the epi to 40 IMO. You can include some DAA and cortisol control if you wish; It would only help you. If you absolutely don't want to run the SERM, then I would strongly suggest you include DAA to help you recover.
 
^I have rearranged a few things and given my idea of a good PCT for you.

I don't generally like the idea of stacking two methyl's but i've seen it done safely. Cut out the reversitol, it's unnecessary. No reason to take the epi to 40 IMO. You can include some DAA and cortisol control if you wish; It would only help you. If you absolutely don't want to run the SERM, then I would strongly suggest you include DAA to help you recover.

I actually really like how you have arranged that, thanks I appreciate it.
 
Okay, so I am now 5 days into my 4th week of my H-Drol and Stano-Drol stack. Before I started my stack I weighed around 188 - 190, not sure what my BF % is because I have no way of testing it out here but I do have a high metabolism so I have always stayed lean and can cut easily. Anyway, I just weighed myself the other day before my workout and was 202 lbs. My strength has rapidly gone up as well so, so far I am impressed and very happy with this stack.
 
Okay, so I am now 5 days into my 4th week of my H-Drol and Stano-Drol stack. Before I started my stack I weighed around 188 - 190, not sure what my BF % is because I have no way of testing it out here but I do have a high metabolism so I have always stayed lean and can cut easily. Anyway, I just weighed myself the other day before my workout and was 202 lbs. My strength has rapidly gone up as well so, so far I am impressed and very happy with this stack.

Great! You've got two weeks of fun left ;)
 
Great! You've got two weeks of fun left ;)

Yeah, I'm up to 95 lb db's on my incline press and 100 lb db's on my flat press of 6 reps for both, which is an increase of 20 lbs. By the end of my 6th week I should be on the 110's. Pretty much everything has increased consistently over the past few weeks.
 
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