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I have my gyno surgery coming up in 2 weeks. I've gone through all of the pre-op paperwork and instructions, and I've learned a bit about what to expect from these forums and from YouTube.

But I'd like to hear from anyone who has had it done before. What should I really expect for the 6 weeks post-op? What did you learn through the experience that you didn't know beforehand, or just didn't expect (good or bad).

I'm not a big fan of painkillers (especially opiates/opioids, but really anything that can be habit forming), so I'd like to try to do it with as little (to none) of those being used as possible; how likely is that? How bad is the vest and how long should I expect to have to wear it? How long will I probably actually need to avoid light/medium/heavy weight lifting? Surgery is on a Thursday and I'm planning to take Friday off, with the expectation that I can go back in on Monday and do mostly paperwork for the rest of that week; is that realistic?

Basically: any advice/tips/warnings that you wish you had been told before you had your procedure done.
 
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I have my gyno surgery coming up in 2 weeks. I've gone through all of the pre-op paperwork and instructions, and I've learned a bit about what to expect from these forums and from YouTube.

But I'd like to hear from anyone who has had it done before. What should I really expect for the 6 weeks post-op? What did you learn through the experience that you didn't know beforehand, or just didn't expect (good or bad).

I'm not a big fan of painkillers (especially opiates/opioids, but really anything that can be habit forming), so I'd like to try to do it with as little (to none) of those being used as possible; how likely is that? How bad is the vest and how long should I expect to have to wear it? How long will I probably actually need to avoid light/medium/heavy weight lifting? Surgery is on a Thursday and I'm planning to take Friday off, with the expectation that I can go back in on Monday and do mostly paperwork for the rest of that week; is that realistic?

Basically: any advice/tips/warnings that you wish you had been told before you had your procedure done.
I didn't but my boy had it done. Just do what the tell you. Don't lift weights, try to avoid sweating. You wanna keep it clean and dry and that's gonna speed up the healing process. My boy was doing legs in 6 weeks and upper body in 8-10 if I remember correctly. Light weights.

Also, I think chase irons has a couple videos talking about his gyno surgery and recovery time.
 
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^^ Yep, do what they tell you, including pre, and post-op directions on what to put in your body, etc.
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By this time tomorrow I should probably be just about done with the surgery and getting ready to be picked up.

Wish me luck bros!

If anyone is interested, I'll update with how things are going over the next few weeks... For science?
 
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Good luck, wish I could afford to do this myself!
 

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By this time tomorrow I should probably be just about done with the surgery and getting ready to be picked up.

Wish me luck bros!

If anyone is interested, I'll update with how things are going over the next few weeks... For science?
In..thinking about doing this eventually
 
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My surgeon just called me and had to cancel the surgery for today. Has to be rescheduled. Might be a week or two or more.

Lame because I had all of my ducks in a row with the time off for work, and everything else I have scheduled in the coming 6 weeks, this was like the absolutely ideal day to get it done.
 
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My surgeon just called me and had to cancel the surgery for today. Has to be rescheduled. Might be a week or two or more.

Lame because I had all of my ducks in a row with the time off for work, and everything else I have scheduled in the coming 6 weeks, this was like the absolutely ideal day to get it done.
Damn that sucks. That has to be inconvenient / annoying as hell
 
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Yep, I'm disappointed, but powerless to change the situation.

Some positives: I get to eat today (had to stop at midnight last night), and I get to lift tomorrow and Saturday (today is one of my weekly rest days).

Trying to look on the bright side as much as I can rn...
 
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My surgeon just called me and had to cancel the surgery for today. Has to be rescheduled. Might be a week or two or more.

Lame because I had all of my ducks in a row with the time off for work, and everything else I have scheduled in the coming 6 weeks, this was like the absolutely ideal day to get it done.
Ah man that sucks. I hate when I have a plan and everything is going accordingly to plan then a wrench gets thrown in :(
 
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Hopefully they get it rescheduled for something you can make well enough for you.

The first few days really sucked. I had a lot more pain than I expected and really needed to use the hydrocodone for 2-3 days, but I hate how I feel on that and it immediately constipates me. By day 3 it makes me very itchy, which is not good when you are bound up with limited mobility in hot scratchy wraps, so then I have to get off that to get the itching to stop.

But they did a lipectomy while I was sedated at the hospital, and the dumbass expressly went against my orders and left the actual gyno tissue because he thought it “wasn’t that bad”. So everything healed up, and there was still gyno, except now my chest was leaner so you could really see the gyno under the nipples So he had me come to the office, gave me something for anxiety, shot some lidocaine in my chest, and opened me up there with the nurse since he blew the $2k on the hospital sedation room already previously. So I had to be awake. They then excised as much gyno as he felt practical, but then the lidocaine wore off because it took longer than he expected and I started bleeding out and had to be taken to an emergency room where the head doc helped him close me up safely (the cosmetic surgeon’s office is licensed for those kind of in-house procedures, and down the street from the hospital). So then I had to go back to the office a second time, now the third procedure, where he reduced the other side pretty successfully since it hadn’t been gotten to yet.

So it basically went about as bad as you could have expected, 3 procedures mainly awake & had a bit of a shave with death, and there’s still gyno in there that has since grown some that I will need cut out again when I’m done competing probably, BUT I will still say it was all worth it. It made that big of a difference, and gave me a ton of comfort in my body to be topless publicly.

I was charged $6k up front and that covered almost $2k to the hospital to rent the initial room and all following work, consultations, all of it. He did stand behind his work and it did really improve the quality of my life greatly.
 
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After seeing myself with a little extra fat and having a strap across my chest from my immobilizer it stood out really bad. I told my wife once I am healed and we can make it happen I am going to get mine done. Damn the debt, the amount of confidence and comfort it would give me is worth the money considering we have taken on debts for things that are not life changing.
 
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Hopefully they get it rescheduled for something you can make well enough for you.

The first few days really sucked. I had a lot more pain than I expected and really needed to use the hydrocodone for 2-3 days, but I hate how I feel on that and it immediately constipates me. By day 3 it makes me very itchy, which is not good when you are bound up with limited mobility in hot scratchy wraps, so then I have to get off that to get the itching to stop.

But they did a lipectomy while I was sedated at the hospital, and the dumbass expressly went against my orders and left the actual gyno tissue because he thought it “wasn’t that bad”. So everything healed up, and there was still gyno, except now my chest was leaner so you could really see the gyno under the nipples So he had me come to the office, gave me something for anxiety, shot some lidocaine in my chest, and opened me up there with the nurse since he blew the $2k on the hospital sedation room already previously. So I had to be awake. They then excised as much gyno as he felt practical, but then the lidocaine wore off because it took longer than he expected and I started bleeding out and had to be taken to an emergency room where the head doc helped him close me up safely (the cosmetic surgeon’s office is licensed for those kind of in-house procedures, and down the street from the hospital). So then I had to go back to the office a second time, now the third procedure, where he reduced the other side pretty successfully since it hadn’t been gotten to yet.

So it basically went about as bad as you could have expected, 3 procedures mainly awake & had a bit of a shave with death, and there’s still gyno in there that has since grown some that I will need cut out again when I’m done competing probably, BUT I will still say it was all worth it. It made that big of a difference, and gave me a ton of comfort in my body to be topless publicly.

I was charged $6k up front and that covered almost $2k to the hospital to rent the initial room and all following work, consultations, all of it. He did stand behind his work and it did really improve the quality of my life greatly.
Wow, yeah my surgeon said she intends to leave a tint bit of tissue just behind the nipple so I don't lose sensation entirely, and so that it doesn't end up being recessed back behind the rest of the skin and being indented.

I've been wondering if I should just follow and say that I want it all removed entirely. I don't care one bit about being able to feel anything there (if anything, sensation in that area just frustrates me and reminds me of the gyno) and I certainly don't want anything left that might be able to foster growth down the road.

You definitely went through a harrowing experience, and I certainly don't want to go through all of that! I also don't intend to ever have this done on me again. So what would you recommend I say?
 
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Hopefully they get it rescheduled for something you can make well enough for you.

The first few days really sucked. I had a lot more pain than I expected and really needed to use the hydrocodone for 2-3 days, but I hate how I feel on that and it immediately constipates me. By day 3 it makes me very itchy, which is not good when you are bound up with limited mobility in hot scratchy wraps, so then I have to get off that to get the itching to stop.

But they did a lipectomy while I was sedated at the hospital, and the dumbass expressly went against my orders and left the actual gyno tissue because he thought it “wasn’t that bad”. So everything healed up, and there was still gyno, except now my chest was leaner so you could really see the gyno under the nipples So he had me come to the office, gave me something for anxiety, shot some lidocaine in my chest, and opened me up there with the nurse since he blew the $2k on the hospital sedation room already previously. So I had to be awake. They then excised as much gyno as he felt practical, but then the lidocaine wore off because it took longer than he expected and I started bleeding out and had to be taken to an emergency room where the head doc helped him close me up safely (the cosmetic surgeon’s office is licensed for those kind of in-house procedures, and down the street from the hospital). So then I had to go back to the office a second time, now the third procedure, where he reduced the other side pretty successfully since it hadn’t been gotten to yet.

So it basically went about as bad as you could have expected, 3 procedures mainly awake & had a bit of a shave with death, and there’s still gyno in there that has since grown some that I will need cut out again when I’m done competing probably, BUT I will still say it was all worth it. It made that big of a difference, and gave me a ton of comfort in my body to be topless publicly.

I was charged $6k up front and that covered almost $2k to the hospital to rent the initial room and all following work, consultations, all of it. He did stand behind his work and it did really improve the quality of my life greatly.
Man, sounds like your experience was a nightmare Hyde.

Good luck Match, hopefully all goes well, and recovery is smooth.🙏
 
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Good luck, wish I could afford to do this myself!
$100 a week for 1 year.

I know that sounds nuts but if you put away $100 out of every paycheck for a year at the end of the year you got your gyno surgery. I just put that into perspective for myself because I know sooner or later I'm going to need to get it done so I might as well start putting the money aside.
After the New Year I'm starting my gyno fund LOL
 
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Wow, yeah my surgeon said she intends to leave a tint bit of tissue just behind the nipple so I don't lose sensation entirely, and so that it doesn't end up being recessed back behind the rest of the skin and being indented.

I've been wondering if I should just follow and say that I want it all removed entirely. I don't care one bit about being able to feel anything there (if anything, sensation in that area just frustrates me and reminds me of the gyno) and I certainly don't want anything left that might be able to foster growth down the road.

You definitely went through a harrowing experience, and I certainly don't want to go through all of that! I also don't intend to ever have this done on me again. So what would you recommend I say?
If you are a natural lifter and more or less intend to stay that way, definitely have a bit of tissue left behind the nipple. This is a good thing aesthetically, by a very wide margin, and you won’t be at risk for hormonal fluctuations to the degree that gyno will be a concern (unless you develop a habit that can affect gyno aside from steroids, like chronic/addict level use of Kratom, opiates, weed, alcohol, etc).

My longterm issue is that there is actually a tremendous amount I believe all over my pecs, along the sides, towards my armpit that was not excised due to it being more difficult and very minimal in contribution to the ideal aesthetic outcome. Also, the amount left behind the nipple in the context of a steroid-abuser absolutely will be able to grow in time with exposure to estrogen fluctuations. My left Pec now has a node for some years that is sensitive to prolactin elevation thanks to Mk677. It’s easy enough to manage on blasts with a bit of Ralox and ensuring prolactin doesn’t get too high, but I’ll eventually probably have it removed some day.

BUT, the divots will be very real and obvious, and so the total removal from behind the nipple is only ideal essentially for someone who at some point expects to regrow that area with pseudogyno/estrogenic fat deposition (someone with higher bodyfat like me using steroids), or a very lean bodybuilder who really doesn’t have much fat to cause any contrast/divoting to begin with.
 
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Wow, yeah my surgeon said she intends to leave a tint bit of tissue just behind the nipple so I don't lose sensation entirely, and so that it doesn't end up being recessed back behind the rest of the skin and being indented.

I've been wondering if I should just follow and say that I want it all removed entirely. I don't care one bit about being able to feel anything there (if anything, sensation in that area just frustrates me and reminds me of the gyno) and I certainly don't want anything left that might be able to foster growth down the road.

You definitely went through a harrowing experience, and I certainly don't want to go through all of that! I also don't intend to ever have this done on me again. So what would you recommend I say?
It's my understanding that unless you have a highly skilled plastic surgeon that specializes in gyno then removing everything has a high risk for the nipples caving in.

Most will leave a tiny bit behind the nip. But, that does leave a possibility for gyno to come back.

The guy Paul from anabolic bodybuilding has had four gyno surgeries if I'm not mistaken.

But for the large majority of people once you get it removed even if they leave a tiny bit of the gland it doesn't seem to come back.

This is all hearsay has obviously I don't know the real answer here because I've never had it done.
 
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If you are a natural lifter and more or less intend to stay that way, definitely have a bit of tissue left behind the nipple. This is a good thing aesthetically, by a very wide margin, and you won’t be at risk for hormonal fluctuations to the degree that gyno will be a concern (unless you develop a habit that can affect gyno aside from steroids, like chronic/addict level use of Kratom, opiates, weed, alcohol, etc).

My longterm issue is that there is actually a tremendous amount I believe all over my pecs, along the sides, towards my armpit that was not excised due to it being more difficult and very minimal in contribution to the ideal aesthetic outcome. Also, the amount left behind the nipple in the context of a steroid-abuser absolutely will be able to grow in time with exposure to estrogen fluctuations. My left Pec now has a node for some years that is sensitive to prolactin elevation thanks to Mk677. It’s easy enough to manage on blasts with a bit of Ralox and ensuring prolactin doesn’t get too high, but I’ll eventually probably have it removed some day.

BUT, the divots will be very real and obvious, and so the total removal from behind the nipple is only ideal essentially for someone who at some point expects to regrow that area with pseudogyno/estrogenic fat deposition (someone with higher bodyfat like me using steroids), or a very lean bodybuilder who really doesn’t have much fat to cause any contrast/divoting to begin with.
Thanks Hyde, that's really good info.

I'm very on the fence about ever going with a full blast. At 42 already I figure someday I'll likely do TRT, but hopefully that's many years (decades?) in the future. If/when I ever do get to that point, my hope is that I will be in good enough shape to be able to talk myself out of that temptation. So that's my current goal, get my physique to the point (without AAS) that I am content and don't need to strive to be the guy with the biggest guns at work/church.

I wanna stay healthy and active so I can one day play soccer and/or hockey with some grandkids.
 
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I was just about to type " he bros let's start a gofundme for our guy @Smont
@Smont : start up a gofundme for this. I bet you'd get at least one anonymous donation to the cause. And every little bit counts right?;)
 
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@Smont : start up a gofundme for this. I bet you'd get at least one anonymous donation to the cause. And every little bit counts right?;)
Lol, no way. There's no scenario where i would do a go fund me for myself.

I'd feel like a dirt bag 😂
 
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Lol, no way. There's no scenario where i would do a go fund me for myself.

I'd feel like a dirt bag 😂
Well, someone else could start it but then how do we know that the funds ever made it to you?

If a well known and trusted AM bro starts one up on Smonts behalf, it will get some funds. I can personally guarantee that.
 
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Well, someone else could start it but then how do we know that the funds ever made it to you?

If a well known and trusted AM bro starts one up on Smonts behalf, it will get some funds. I can personally guarantee that.
It was all a joke, I'm not looking for a go fund me lol
 
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I gotta lay off the talk to text
For what it's worth, I think that if the talk to text enables you to give longer and more detailed responses, than you'd do in writing, then I wouldn't change it. I'm sure everybody understands what you mean and the little typos/errors done by the talk to text doesn't take away the points made in the posts. I just couldn't resist, lol
 
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For what it's worth, I think that if the talk to text enables you to give longer and more detailed responses, than you'd do in writing, then I wouldn't change it. I'm sure everybody understands what you mean and the little typos/errors done by the talk to text doesn't take away the points made in the posts. I just couldn't resist, lol
The thing I like about talk to text is I don't have to think. I can just give my opinion or answer a question. But when typing or texting a response I find myself over thinking, editing or cutting it short.

Talk to text is almost like getting out on the spot. Your gonna get the first thing that comes to my mind. It's gonna be my honest opinion and if it's something I'm interested in il dive down the rabbit hole and correct it later
 
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Thanks Hyde, that's really good info.

I'm very on the fence about ever going with a full blast. At 42 already I figure someday I'll likely do TRT, but hopefully that's many years (decades?) in the future. If/when I ever do get to that point, my hope is that I will be in good enough shape to be able to talk myself out of that temptation. So that's my current goal, get my physique to the point (without AAS) that I am content and don't need to strive to be the guy with the biggest guns at work/church.

I wanna stay healthy and active so I can one day play soccer and/or hockey with some grandkids.
In your scenario I would absolutely let the surgeon leave the amount behind the nipple they believe to be sufficient for an ideal cosmetic effect. I know that sounds crazy, but you have to understand that I have a very significant amount now under both nipples, there has been definite growth, and I’m very comfortable with my shirt off. It’s pretty even and jives with my “brawny” look. A guy with over 25% bodyfat isn’t going to have a flat chest.

It takes a very significant amount of gyno, especially relative to your bodyfat, to really look “bad” by most people’s standards. Normal humans that do not obsess with bodybuilding are not hyper-fixated with gyno; it’s extremely common for men to develop some gyno naturally in puberty, and more so pseudogyno (estrogenic chest fat) as they gain bodyfat and age. Over 10% of men naturally have some real gyno, but in America at least probably 1 in 3 guys has some pseudogyno - it’s normal and people don’t bat at eye because it’s not a big deal. Just go to any public pool and have a good look around at the average population.

What is a big deal is when it’s so significant that you say, damn, he has some titties going, or there is a significant node asymmetrically on an otherwise lean & fit physique. A fat guy who isn’t overly developed in his chest fat looks normal, and a fit guy can have a lot on his pecs and people just think it’s bigger pecs unless there’s significant asymmetry. There needs to be a lot of contrast from everything else for it to look bad, and this reduction surgery will fix that.
 
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God bless you guys I couldn't imagine someone cutting around my nipples.
Good luck
I just plain and simply don't like the fact that you can see mine through my shirts. If I could get rid of them entirely and have it not be weird, I totally would, but that isn't a thing.

It's not like they serve any purpose, can't milk em!
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In your scenario I would absolutely let the surgeon leave the amount behind the nipple they believe to be sufficient for an ideal cosmetic effect. I know that sounds crazy, but you have to understand that I have a very significant amount now under both nipples, there has been definite growth, and I’m very comfortable with my shirt off. It’s pretty even and jives with my “brawny” look. A guy with over 25% bodyfat isn’t going to have a flat chest.

It takes a very significant amount of gyno, especially relative to your bodyfat, to really look “bad” by most people’s standards. Normal humans that do not obsess with bodybuilding are not hyper-fixated with gyno; it’s extremely common for men to develop some gyno naturally in puberty, and more so pseudogyno (estrogenic chest fat) as they gain bodyfat and age. Over 10% of men naturally have some real gyno, but in America at least probably 1 in 3 guys has some pseudogyno - it’s normal and people don’t bat at eye because it’s not a big deal. Just go to any public pool and have a good look around at the average population.

What is a big deal is when it’s so significant that you say, damn, he has some titties going, or there is a significant node asymmetrically on an otherwise lean & fit physique. A fat guy who isn’t overly developed in his chest fat looks normal, and a fit guy can have a lot on his pecs and people just think it’s bigger pecs unless there’s significant asymmetry. There needs to be a lot of contrast from everything else for it to look bad, and this reduction surgery will fix that.
Yeah, it's not super noticeable on me. And I know that 99% or more of the populace are looking at abs and arms when a guy's shirt is off. But when I look in the mirror it's like the first thing I focus on (do they look worse today?). Since my major goals in training are physique based (rather than strength, endurance, or sport-specific), it's a bigger deal for me than it would be for others (and probably than it should be for me).

The checks have been deposited though now, and I am really looking forward to just getting this done and recovering so I can focus on the next phases of my training!
 
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Yeah, it's not super noticeable on me. And I know that 99% or more of the populace are looking at abs and arms when a guy's shirt is off. But when I look in the mirror it's like the first thing I focus on (do they look worse today?). Since my major goals in training are physique based (rather than strength, endurance, or sport-specific), it's a bigger deal for me than it would be for others (and probably than it should be for me).

The checks have been deposited though now, and I am really looking forward to just getting this done and recovering so I can focus on the next phases of my training!
I think you should get the surgery, just understand that you should expect to be pleased by the reduction. You want to look better, not have craters.
 
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Wishing you all the best luck! Recovery takes time, and it will be spring time before you will be able to really enjoy the finished product, but now is the time to make it happen!
 
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Hopefully all goes well brother, definitely update us.
 
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Took all my meds and got here early. Been through all of the pre-op basically at this point. IV is in and just waiting for the team to come in and talk to me. The pre-op nurse just told me I might not remember all of this preamble once the anesthesia wears off. I don't know why but it's funny to me to think I might not even remember posting this comment when I come out on the other side.

See ya there guys, thanks again for all the info/tips.
 
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Excited for you man! I actually did a virtual consult with "The Man Boob Doctor" a guy who is well known in Austin Tx over the weekend just to see how much I am looking at to get done.
 

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You got this @match All your AM bros are here for you man
 
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Excited for you man! I actually did a virtual consult with "The Man Boob Doctor" a guy who is well known in Austin Tx over the weekend just to see how much I am looking at to get done.
Oh cool, how much did he quote you? Of course you don't have to say if you don't want to (or can DM me), but I'm very curious.

I was able to haggle about $1500 bucks off my final bill, which was a nice chunk of change to save, even if it did cost an arm and a leg.
 
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Praying for a great procedure for you
Yes, praying all goes well.🙏
You got this @match All your AM bros are here for you man
Thanks a ton for the prayers and encouragement guys!

I've been back home for a few hours. Finally got a little nap and feeling way more with it than I was. Was very spacey for the first few hours.

Mobility is my only real issue atm. Very little pain (but the local anesthesia injections may be the reason for that, I'll get a better idea on that as the day and evening rolls on).

They have me on celebrex ("non-habit forming") 2x per day (8am and 8pm) for pain, and they said I could take tylenol (acetaminophen) every 4 hours, or percocet (oxy) less frequently, as needed for the pain.

I'm not a fan of pain meds in general, esp oxy's (even though I have no history of oxy drug abuse, prescription or illicit), but I can tell through the pain meds (and perhaps residual anesthesia) that there is some tender tissue there.

So I took a tylenol and within 10-15 minutes that oncoming pain was muted pretty significantly. I can take those up to every 4 hours, so I might do that so I don't have to chase the pain. That's really novel for me because I have to be in really bad shape (like killer migraine pain) to even consider taking tylenol or the like. So my plan is to just do the tylenol and celebrex for now and see if that works.

I didn't originally intend for this to become a recovery log, but it may morph into that. I might post a few more updates in the coming days/weeks (for science!) with the hopes of helping out some bro's in the future who are considering getting this done. If I can snag some before and after photos from the docs website down the road I might put them up as well.
 

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