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Gyno & Marijuana

flex167

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Lately there has been a lot of talk of gyno/delayed gyno. I myself have gyno, bumps in the nips. I attributed it to my last SD cycle as maybe 3-4 weeks later I had bumps and puffy nips. I've tried nolv for about 2 weeks; the nolv didnt seem to do anything maybe even got a little worse. Now I am trying letro in hopes to try and reverse it. I have been taking it for 2+ weeks with only a small reduction in lump size
-nothing huge might i add. However recently I have been thinking my gyno might be from smoking marijuana. I read in another post someone who mentioned they had gyno from a SD and they mentioned they smoked a lot of reefer too.I'm obviously going to try to stop smoking, continue the letro and see if it helps at all. Just my 2 cents, opinions/experiences welcome!
 
You don't get gyno from marijuana. This is based on nonsense released by the government when they showed that huges doses of THC lowered testosterone levels in rats slightly and I believe also in primates slightly. The test levels were still well within normal ranges, no where near low enough to contribute to or cause gyno. You can find some of the studies sited on the Erowid site and make up your own mind.
 
THC is very lipophilic. Testes are high in fat and THC can accumulate there. If you are a heavy smoker, it can be an issue, but you would have to be a seriously major pot head. I smoked out on a daily basis for many years as a young man (HS and college) and never had any issues. Ah, the good ol' days! :)
 
I never had a problem with weed from my party days either. But I do remember reading something where marijuana had some mild estrogens in it. I've heard the same thing about beer too.
 
warriorway said:
I never had a problem with weed from my party days either. But I do remember reading something where marijuana had some mild estrogens in it. I've heard the same thing about beer too.
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Like Dr D said, anything taken to excess might have an effect. If you're not drowning yourself in liquor or smoking so much you have the EPA after you, it's nothing to worry about. I'd worry about the alcohol before the weed at least. I used to smoke, eat and drink (tea anyone) weed by the ton, never had a problem. And eventually you just grow up and stop anyway. Too many bills to pay to think about rolling one.

A real concern with these two is athletic performance though. Alcohol can slow you down for a time and weed can slow you down for a time. Reflexes, responses, physical and mental speed, etc., all can take a hit from acute or chronic us of either substance.
 
Hey Flex I was an ocassional smoker (3x monthly) and now developed a lump during my last cycle. I've never had any gyno before but now that you mentioned pot I'm wondering if it is partially due to the Weed in combination with SD.

I was running Nolvadex throughout my cycle and it still did not help with the problem. I've upped the dosage to 60 mg daily to see if that helps. I don't believe Weed causes it but I think it may contribute to it if your using other armotizable substances because the gyno flared up after I smoked, which may just be a coincendence.

Let me know if it goes away and what Serm or AI you were using.
 
Hey Flex I was an ocassional smoker (3x monthly) and now developed a lump during my last cycle. I've never had any gyno before but now that you mentioned pot I'm wondering if it is partially due to the Weed in combination with SD.

I was running Nolvadex throughout my cycle and it still did not help with the problem. I've upped the dosage to 60 mg daily to see if that helps. I don't believe Weed causes it but I think it may contribute to it if your using other armotizable substances because the gyno flared up after I smoked, which may just be a coincendence.

Let me know if it goes away and what Serm or AI you were using.
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I agree with you here, I believe as well, that its not the main cause but it is contributing to it, bc like you said after I would smoke it seems like my nips would flare up & be more sensitive. Right now I am using letro to try and reverse it (been using it for more than 2 weeks)and although it seems to have shrunk the lumps it hasn't made a HUGE difference only mild but ill give it one or two more weeks before giving up bc my joints are getting dried out.
 
flex167 said:
I agree with you here, I believe as well, that its not the main cause but it is contributing to it, bc like you said after I would smoke it seems like my nips would flare up & be more sensitive. Right now I am using letro to try and reverse it (been using it for more than 2 weeks)and although it seems to have shrunk the lumps it hasn't made a HUGE difference only mild but ill give it one or two more weeks before giving up bc my joints are getting dried out.
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Flex how does letro compare to arimidex. There both AI but I was wondering which is better because right now nolva isn't doing much, so I'll probably try something else.

Keep us updated on the gyno. I'm interested if anyone else who smokes has noticed gyno flare ups afterwards.
 
Not to be an ass...But AI's though useful, would have been far more useful to both of you during cycle, by their mechanism they are meant to prevent the conversion of testosterone into estrogen through the aromatose enzyme, something to think about for next time...And as CDB said, marijuana had nothing to do with either of your cases of gyno.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Not to be an ass...But AI's though useful, would have been far more useful to both of you during cycle, by their mechanism they are meant to prevent the conversion of testosterone into estrogen through the aromatose enzyme, something to think about for next time...And as CDB said, marijuana had nothing to do with either of your cases of gyno.
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You're such an ass!! :icon_lol:
Just kidding! I agree with you. Pot has nothing to do with these cases and AI's are better for prevention rather than abortion.
 
I have a rat who used to smoke a quater a day, but never had any cases of gyno until he experimented with Mdien 2 years later of cessation of his owners cruel pot smoking experiment. Years later the Rat learned that BC's, Haze and PIF are not the way to a good body, nor a healthy body, and if you want to build muscles, PIF induced munchies are no good, after all what Rat looks for Chicken Breasts then???
 
I've known many BBers' who smoked heavily everyday and cycled and never had problems.

Think about all the non-smokers who have used SD and developed gyno flare ups...the progestins in it set a lot of people up for gyno who have never had an issue with it before..myself included.
 
Apowerz6 said:
PIF induced munchies are no good, after all what Rat looks for Chicken Breasts then???
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That would be me. I turned into a gourmet cook when stoned. But White Castle did in a pinch too. Murder Burgers anyone?
 
CDB said:
:wave:

That would be me. I turned into a gourmet cook when stoned. But White Castle did in a pinch too. Murder Burgers anyone?
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white castle....yummm

i'll take a sack of mot sticks, 2 chicken & cheese, and 5 cheeseburgers!!! :burger:
 
look if anything, when your high your releasing less cortisol so i would not be trippin man, puff puff pass baby
 
Yea, well do not ever smoke down and open a can of honey roast cashews, it is impossible to stop, at least that is what my pet rat told me.........
 
RipdnTxs said:
Yea, well do not ever smoke down and open a can of honey roast cashews, it is impossible to stop, at least that is what my pet rat told me.........
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Enterman's Table Talk pies...
 
Homemade oatmeal cranberry cookies and milk. Rat nearly died.

Of course, the ultimate...high quality,85% cocoa solids Belgian chocolate.
 
Haahaha i love how this thread turned out. Anything with chocolate and I'm done for lol. Pretty soon I'm going to have to lock up my all my snacks...But yea you guys are probably right weed doesnt have much to do with it, as for which AI is better letro or arimidex, i couldnt tell you because ive never taken a'dex but if you're loooking to obliterate estrogen go with letro. I also have a ? that maybe someone can help me out with...Would it be pointless to stack letro with say dostinex/cabergoline(anti-prolactin) bc i know the letro lowers progestins from having low estrogen in itself??anyone try this stack or have any comments/experiences??
 
flex167 said:
Haahaha i love how this thread turned out. Anything with chocolate and I'm done for lol. Pretty soon I'm going to have to lock up my all my snacks...But yea you guys are probably right weed doesnt have much to do with it, as for which AI is better letro or arimidex, i couldnt tell you because ive never taken a'dex but if you're loooking to obliterate estrogen go with letro. I also have a ? that maybe someone can help me out with...Would it be pointless to stack letro with say dostinex/cabergoline(anti-prolactin) bc i know the letro lowers progestins from having low estrogen in itself??anyone try this stack or have any comments/experiences??
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i know i think maybe 1 person who used an anti prolactin while on an AI... dont really have to... i dont
 
i have gyno in one nipple!! i hav been to see a specialist to determine whether it was for sure and it was!!! after several scans!!! the doc told me to lay off weed no beer plenty of exercise and it will go in time!!! and o yes!! NO PH!

they also said no nolv or letro cos there likely to make it worse!

anyviews????????
 
BIG_DAWG said:
i have gyno in one nipple!! i hav been to see a specialist to determine whether it was for sure and it was!!! after several scans!!! the doc told me to lay off weed no beer plenty of exercise and it will go in time!!! and o yes!! NO PH!

they also said no nolv or letro cos there likely to make it worse!

anyviews????????
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i have a view...doctors are corny....
 
yes. def give letro a run BUT letro does have a harsh rebound effect. (prob why he told u it will make it worse) so if you are going to run it u will have to pct it with nolva. nothing to serious though only like 20 mgs first week 10 mgs second week.

so if your not running a cycle and just straight letro it should look something like this (this is what i have done for my slight gyno n it worked.

Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro

Stay at this dose until gyno subsides. then taper down in the same manner

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg
Day 5: .25mg (it is a good idea to go this low)

Very next day start you nolva. 20mg/day first week. 10mg day second week should be sufficent. then come completely off.

o yea since obviously u wont be on a cycle during this your sex drive will be shot. it is a good idea to run a test booster while on. i found formadrol works best for me.
 
do you use a syringe for your letro/nolv doses or are us in the uk a bit behind with other methods of takin dosages???
 
Here is an interesting factoid ... Weed has been shown to decrease test levels in men and increase them in women. lol, maybe that's explains why my aunt has a mustash.

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An oral syringe will work fine, but do not try to inject it. I also use 1ml droppers with .2 incriments scartched out in them. Anything will work as long as you can measure your dose.

Thanks
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go buy a bottle of dermabolics E-FORM. don't follow the instructions on the bottle. 30 minutes b4 a shower, drape yourself in E-FORM. (10+ sprays). let it dry. shower. the uncomfortable lumpiness will be noticably less within 3 hours. use it for a couple of days. this has always worked for me. somebody posted that superdrol seems to cause gyno. i have never had any gyno experience ever prior to superdrol. i do get occasional flareups. but it's never affected me. nothing seems to work better than random doses of dermabolics products.
 
I've been puffing MMJ for years now, and a coupla years ago I got lumps and the all but dissappeared. Then they came back, and I'd been off for eight months. Was like you could feel'em growing and they hurt. I had a Mammogram and it came out as gyno... I tried Aromasin and it shrunk'em a bit, but you can still feel them on palp and the pain is still there. Dont worry bra, it's not the bud.
 
My rat use to have some crazy strong chest workouts when he smoked. Also helped with much needed weight gain in those early endo years as a teen.
 
my rat just worked out after smoking for the first time... and had amazing gains in focus and rep numbers... more tests runs will be needed
 
I had a dream, that i owned a pet rat: In this dream he smokes every other weekend and has a blast, He was eatting AI's cookie mix and enjoying diffrent meals. He was gainning healthy weight fast. What a wonderful dream........
 
There seems to be an epidemic in the "rat" community with smoking weed. I dont know how the poor little guys's lungs can handle it...

Anyways I dont think there is a shred of evidence of gyno being caused by marijuana. I remember in my 5th grade DARE class they told us that "Smoking Marijuana will give you breasts" and all the boys in the class freaked out. Only to smoke it later when HS rolled around... If anything, you'd get excess fat in your chest from eating doritos as a result of the munchies. Giving the appearance of gyno. lol
 
fbxdan said:
There seems to be an epidemic in the "rat" community with smoking weed. I dont know how the poor little guys's lungs can handle it...

Anyways I dont think there is a shred of evidence of gyno being caused by marijuana. I remember in my 5th grade DARE class they told us that "Smoking Marijuana will give you breasts" and all the boys in the class freaked out. Only to smoke it later when HS rolled around... If anything, you'd get excess fat in your chest from eating doritos as a result of the munchies. Giving the appearance of gyno. lol
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There may be no evidence as of now of MJ causing gyno, but everytime my rat smokes, it causes his gyno to flare up and hurt the next day. It may be inconclusive but MJ IMO acts negatively on existing gyno or may increase the gyno. It may not be the THC but maybe some of the other chemicals that are inhaled. Maybe it's just me, but I'm telling my rat to lay off the reefer. :(
 
i no this thread is old, but would smoking weed while using letro effect the blood plasma levels, and not allow the letro run full force??
 
Funny how we all react differently. If i smoke for any length of time my nipps get puffy. Quit smoking and puffiness goes away. For me weed has an effect, but thats jus me and my xperience with it
 
My nipples get puffy and sensitive when I smoke mj also. actually my chest gets really warm and i think that might contribute to it being puffy. but they also feel more sensitive and sometimes hurt when i smoke. For instance today, I hadn't smoked for a few days, and my chest looked pretty good in the shirt I was wearing, considering I have some gyno, I go out, smoke some mj, and my nips starting feeling sensitive. When i came home and took off the sweater I was wearing I realized my nipples looked pointy in my shirt and puffed out more. This is from personal experience.
 
I know this thread is too old. But just in case someone googles this. Yes, it is the Marijuana. I learned it the hard way. Just cut back the weed entirely and in a few weeks your nipples will get back to normal. No letro or nolva needed unless you experience itchiness or lumps under your nipples. It can take 2-5 weeks but puffy nipples will be reversed 100%.
 
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