gyno from 3-ad

97slpss

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ok well every log ive read, never seen anything about anyone getting gyno from 3-ad, but i have it in my left nipple...is there anything i should take ontop of my ax pct at at 3 a day?(maybe a estro blocker?) any help would be appreciated as it would suck to get gyno from such a mild cycle
 
If your saying you already have gyno, then anything could possibly cause that to flare up even more. As far as 3-AD directly causing gyno, I would highly doubt it.
 
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If that's what you have then ok, maybe it caused it, but i would seriously doubt that unless you were taking 4 times the dosage ...
 
Gyno from 2-ene (unmethyl phera) in the 3AD is very possible. It all depends on dosing / how well the body can absorb it though being a non-methyl ester.
 
What was your dosing like and what is your size?

I'm agreeing with the guys in saying that if you took 3-AD and believe you got gyno, I think that something is seriously wrong. The possibility of 3-AD giving you gyno on its own is VERY unlikely due to the combination of ingredients and the low estrogenic sides from it. I simply don't see it happening at all. But, if you already had a problem, then ANYTHING that deals with your hormone levels can aggravate it. I don't care if it's 3-AD or tribulus - don't touch it unless you want to deal with it!

If you wanted slightly more estro-blocking during PCT, throw in Hyperdrol at a dose of 2 caps before bed each night. That should help, and if not, try visiting the ol' doc at the hospital to see what he can do for you.

I wish you all the best! :cheers:
 
There is a risk of any hormonal supp or steroid causing or flaring up existing gyno.

It sucks, but thats why its good to have Nolva in hand. Its saved me from painful, itchy nips once when I came off Max LMG.
 
97slpss said:
ok well every log ive read, never seen anything about anyone getting gyno from 3-ad, but i have it in my left nipple...is there anything i should take ontop of my ax pct at at 3 a day?(maybe a estro blocker?) any help would be appreciated as it would suck to get gyno from such a mild cycle
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Isn't 3AD unmethylated Phera? If so, I've known plenty of people that developed gyno from PP. They had no signs of pre-existing gyno either. Who knows, really. There isn't enough exact science put behind these DS's to really say.
This, however, is the first that I've heard of anyone mentioning that they think gyno was induced by their 3AD cycle.
 
from what ive researched its called pseudo gyno? just very puffy like water is underneith ...I was only on 4 a day with one bottle, I know everyone will say its impossible but something weird is going on ahaha
 
97slpss said:
from what ive researched its called pseudo gyno? just very puffy like water is underneith ...I was only on 4 a day with one bottle, I know everyone will say its impossible but something weird is going on ahaha
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That's a better description. IMO if you read enough 2ene logs (as previoulsy mentioned) you're gonna get some bloat, which is what that sounds like to me.

You haven't mentioned anything about any lumps or abnormal sensations yet. I'd say you have nothing to worry about at this point.
 
97slpss said:
from what ive researched its called pseudo gyno? just very puffy like water is underneith ...I was only on 4 a day with one bottle, I know everyone will say its impossible but something weird is going on ahaha
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Sounds like prolactin my friend, not gyno. Some P-5-P or some Powerfull could kick it if it is indeed prolactin build-up. Or what Celc said too :)
 
Ziquor said:
Sounds like prolactin my friend, not gyno. Some P-5-P or some Powerfull could kick it if it is indeed prolactin build-up.
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Don't you think he'd have that "pins and needles" type of nipple sensations if it were prolactin?

But, if this were the case, your proposed plan is EXACTLY how'd run my first plan of attack to counter the problem :D In fact, I'm running this combo right now alongside Superdrol in a preventive manner.

Looking back, I wish I had run Powerfull alongside phera and subsequent pct because I did have some mild prolactin symptoms.
 
celc5 said:
Don't you think he'd have that "pins and needles" type of nipple sensations if it were prolactin?

But, if this were the case, your proposed plan is EXACTLY how'd run my first plan of attack to counter the problem :D In fact, I'm running this combo right now alongside Superdrol in a preventive manner.

Looking back, I wish I had run Powerfull alongside phera and subsequent pct because I did have some mild prolactin symptoms.
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Yeah he surely would. When I got a little 'swollen' it was just itchy as hell, but then again it was really mild and gone within days.
 
Ziquor said:
Yeah he surely would. When I got a little 'swollen' it was just itchy as hell, but then again it was really mild and gone within days.
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Ya that sounds more like prolactin to me as well. I was occasionally itchy but felt "pins and needles" in the nipples. Once or twice I had a temporary sharp pain as well.

I always felt those sensations mildly after a few days of most libido enhancing products but phera kicked the problem up a level. I had the sensations on and off throughout the pct, even with a serm, various AIs, and b6 (admittedly, I never dosed the B6 above 3 or 4 hundred mg though, which probably wasn't enough for damage control).

I gotta hand it to Powerfull though. It squelched those sensations COMPLETELY within 2-3 days. Luckily, my case was super mild and never got to the point of lactation or anything effin gross like that :run:
 
I fukin hate getting that pins and needles sensation from cycles!!! I've never had gyno (knock on wood) but when I get that stupid sensation in the nips on cycle it is quite horrifying. Fortunately Powerfull has always cleared this up for me, too.
 
97slpss said:
ok well every log ive read, never seen anything about anyone getting gyno from 3-ad, but i have it in my left nipple...is there anything i should take ontop of my ax pct at at 3 a day?(maybe a estro blocker?) any help would be appreciated as it would suck to get gyno from such a mild cycle
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usually if you get gyno a SERM is recommended. that would be the smart thing IMO. Also look into an AI. Agreed on the prolactin after re-reading. If they are just puffy and look like they are holding water but no lumps it probably is prolactin. I recieved that from a mass fx run i did. Just dose the p-5-p on an appropriate dosing scheme and it should fade. Mine lasted about two weeks all in all
 
Would Novedex-Xt do? I jumped the gun last night before reading this post and bought the novedex....if not Ill go Pick up the PowerFull....And should i drop the A-Pct or run both?
 
Whenever I come off a product that limits estrogen, a bounce back occurs. This doesn't give me TRUE gyno, but I do get a little puffed up due to excess estrogen = water retention. IT usually goes away within a few days.
 
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Would Novedex-Xt do? I jumped the gun last night before reading this post and bought the novedex....if not Ill go Pick up the PowerFull....And should i drop the A-Pct or run both?
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novedex isnt the Nolvadex people talk about. I believe novedex is an AI but im not too strong on information regarding it so ill let someone else try to answer that. sorry :D
 
i know there differnt but i dont think nolva is called for here on such a mild compund or for my case according to what ive read, thanks though....Does anyone know if Novedex is ok to add in?
 
chaste berry or dopanergic compounds to battler prolactin if thats what it is, ive gotton this issue u speak of with divanyl and another herbal.
 
97slpss said:
Would Novedex-Xt do? I jumped the gun last night before reading this post and bought the novedex....if not Ill go Pick up the PowerFull....And should i drop the A-Pct or run both?
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nolvadex xt, wouldnt be the worst option, its actually pretty good, its atd and 3-OHAT, a methoxy which increases protein synthesis.

Nolvedex would elimate the problem pretty nicely, dont take too much though.
 
joebo said:
If your saying you already have gyno, then anything could possibly cause that to flare up even more. As far as 3-AD directly causing gyno, I would highly doubt it.
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Better believe it, 3-AD gave me "gyno" aswell, the "" are for all those guys saying its puffy itchy nipples not gyno.

Took it for around 7-10 days when it started, hurt like hell, both nipples but my right one was the worst.

Took nolva and ATD for 6-8 weeks before it was "gone". Right nipple still looks a little different these days, more pointy then the left one, some fat beneath.

By the way that was it for me, threw my entire stack into the garbage bin, never touching anything hormonal again.

You might argue I should be gratefull I took 3AD which made me quit PH's alltogether ;)
 
Sorry for the misfortune, but I see it as a personal win. Any time you come out learning something, you've won. That's what life's about.

Kudos for going "all-natty". I wish you all the best. :cheers:
 
TexasLifter89 said:
novedex isnt the Nolvadex people talk about. I believe novedex is an AI but im not too strong on information regarding it so ill let someone else try to answer that. sorry :D
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+1 i dont know why anyone didnt say this before. enough of all the OTC products to try and get rid of gyno. this is serious **** were dealing with. a test booster and estro blocker isnt gonna do it all the time. Nolvadex (tamaxofin) can help clear that up asap. its the real stuff too so you dont have to worry about it bein legit for what it does. if ur coming off cycle i would go 40/40/20/20. if your already off for a bit then you could stick to 20/20/20/20. best of luck man. you dont want to mess around with gyno if it sticks then surgery is the only other option
 
T-AD said:
Sorry for the misfortune, but I see it as a personal win. Any time you come out learning something, you've won. That's what life's about.

Kudos for going "all-natty". I wish you all the best. :cheers:
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Hi

I heard that 3ad will be an excellent cutting cycle but I wouldn't expect lot of size gains. More of a hardening and fat loss compound which will also increase strength quite a lot. Is this true?

Would it be effective on a bulk?
 
Rhys26 said:
Hi

I heard that 3ad will be an excellent cutting cycle but I wouldn't expect lot of size gains. More of a hardening and fat loss compound which will also increase strength quite a lot. Is this true?

Would it be effective on a bulk?
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shinivan said:
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Sorry, took care of him over PM I think. :)

But, to answer that, I think that it can be used on a cut or a bulk, though it is primarily for bulking. Ingredients in it will help one to lean out regardless of their overall goals. The difference between a cut and a bulk is never the supplements that you use, rather the training and diet that you put in. Always get those 2 down first before focusing on the products. Most often times this will ring true with about 90% of the products out there, no matter how they are marketed. :)

Anything further? Just ask! :thumbsup:
 
T-AD said:
Sorry, took care of him over PM I think. :)

But, to answer that, I think that it can be used on a cut or a bulk, though it is primarily for bulking. Ingredients in it will help one to lean out regardless of their overall goals. The difference between a cut and a bulk is never the supplements that you use, rather the training and diet that you put in. Always get those 2 down first before focusing on the products. Most often times this will ring true with about 90% of the products out there, no matter how they are marketed. :)

Anything further? Just ask! :thumbsup:
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Ok, i got one more and here I go. I am trying to figur out which ph to go to for my very first run. So far these are my options
3-ad 4 weeker
epi pulse
h-drol 4 weeker

I would say my best bet for the mildest/safest was 3-ad, but now that i read about these gyno issues, it makes me wonder that maybe the other options are in the same realm in terms of harshness and sides.
What are your thoughts on this. Anyone else too who could compare these, experiences.
cheers:thumbsup:
 
shinivan said:
Ok, i got one more and here I go. I am trying to figur out which ph to go to for my very first run. So far these are my options
3-ad 4 weeker
epi pulse
h-drol 4 weeker

I would say my best bet for the mildest/safest was 3-ad, but now that i read about these gyno issues, it makes me wonder that maybe the other options are in the same realm in terms of harshness and sides.
What are your thoughts on this. Anyone else too who could compare these, experiences.
cheers:thumbsup:
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Frankly, I'm not really considering one person's claims of gyno which may not be gyno to provide a good cross-sample from the rest of those who have used it out there. NO OFFENSE TO THE OP, but 1 out of the thousands so far around the world really isn't a great example. I'm still going to say that 3-AD and gyno shouldn't even be in the same sentence here. And yes, that's a bold statement, but I'll stick to it.

While pulsing epi might be a good plan to decrease side effects, also know that you'll be getting only a % of the benefits as well. It's still a methyl, same as Hdrol, and still will need liver protection.

Ultimately, it's up to you. Good luck! :cheers:
 
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