rhodesman
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Hell, no! 8 weeks and wished I would have stopped after 6 weeks.
Goin' Ape fukcing $hit cycle
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tim1985
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Really? Why? Did you react badly to it? I was thinking of staying on for at least 10 weeks lol.
thundergod
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So keep it in and keep it up.
WOW........:blink: :11:
What a statement.
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thundergod
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Even though you read where the best time to consume your post-workout protein/carbs shake is immediately after the session, I disagree. You don't want the blood to leave your muscles and go to your stomach to start the digestion process so soon. I wait about 30 to 45 minutes before I down that big shake.
Just my $0.02. :veryhappy:
ex-tightend83
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I hadn't thought of that. I'll have to give that a try, waiting to drink the shake after I've showered and dressed. Is it still good to have a whole-food meal about an hour or so later after the shake? I'm assuming it is...
tim1985
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Good point TG!
Well it is official! Insomnia has set in big time! I took 100mg benadryl and 4 Tylenol pm and didn't sleep at all last night! This sucks
BTW, Im going to see Ted Nugent in a couple weeks! Just bought the tickets! Fukk yeah!
edwitt
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I have to agree from conversations ive had with guys who know far more than me. I have been on board since day one pound the Post shake ASAP but now covinced pound the BCAA and wait 30 mins before the shake allows for much better absorption. Your anabolic window is 3 hours, plenty of time to get post shake and then post meal
There is plenty of science behind this to support, i only recently switched protocols myself and it took a lot of convincing as ive had such great results previously
and i hate to change something thats worked so well in the past
thundergod
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Of course. I drink the big post workout shake about 30 to 45 minutes after I train. At this same time I'm cooking my big post-workout meal. Usually steak, eggs, and some asparagus on the side. :32:
But the meal isn't an hour after the shake........more like 20 extra minutes after the shake. It's all down the hatch around an hour after the workout. Give or take a few minutes.
thundergod
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I don't want to advise you badly or illegally for that matter, but some Xanax just might be what you need to help you nod off.
Ted Nugent was the first concert I ever went to. Way back in 1980!!! Damn......I'm old.
But so is Uncle Ted!!!:laugh2:
You're in for a real treat, tim.
This is so fucking cool......
rhodesman
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Not too bad, just really tired. You'll see. No sleep at night and feel like sleeping all day.
tim1985
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Thanks TG, I slept some last night. I feel kinda out of it though, sorta stuck on stupid right now.
Yeah man, Ted Nugent is gonna kick a$$
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tim1985
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Did your BP get outta control? Mine has been great, even on stims and a bunch of coffee.
edwitt
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Oh my
Someone just turned up the heat in here,
Absolutely fabulous, totally top notch
:ntome:
tim1985
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Thankyou bro! I'll let you know how that x dream goes. Me likey those pics, hopefully tren doesn't decide to take my penis away next lol
rhodesman
Member
Nah, any bp issues with me are water retention related. HI taught me a few things about AI's and the mechanisms they use to control estro(water retention also). I dialed in my dose of Aromasin and all was perfect.
edwitt
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So why did u have a bad experience with the Tren? if u dont mind me asking
As I also am on the same Tren E as Tim
Just 1 week in for me
:box:
matthew76
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I enjoy their silliness! Also, have you tried Valerian Root? I would recommend that you go to the store and purchase Celestial Seasonings Sleepytime Extra (w/ valerian). Have a cup (2 bags) 30-45 minutes prior to going to bed. Also, at this point, cut all the lights out so your body will release the appropriate chemicals that allow us to sleep.
This is what the package looks like:
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Just make sure you purchase the one that states, "Extra w/ valerian." There are 3 versions, but only one that says Extra.
rhodesman
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Not really a bad experience. It eventually made me feel really tired all the time along with the sleeping issues at night. No sides at all other than that.
edwitt
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tim1985
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Im gonna pick up some of that tea today, thanks for the heads up on it. I did not sleep again last night. In the last 4 days Ive only gotten about 3 hours sleep, if this keeps up, I will be ending my use of tren. The way I figure it, even if I stopped now, I would still be feeling these sides for another 14+ days
Help is on its way mate
What's a bro for
Awesome Ed! Thanks!
edwitt
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Welcome mate,
That Adonis like body of yours needs some well deserved rest :32:
Nooo we cant have u ending because of lack of sleep is it the night sweats that are keeping you up?
My shoulder is on the mend big time i just put up 375 x 7
tim1985
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Lol, thanks man. You know what, the sweats are there at night but not too bad. That is not whats keeping me up though, my mind racing thinking about random stupid crap all fricking night is whats doing it.
What does that make your 1 rep max now? Congrats dude, I bet your gonna get close to your 500 goal when that tren kicks in.
edwitt
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The V shud take care of that and the A put u to deep sleep
454 1RM
and cardiovascular is back I've lost 0.5" in 5 days Gonna be lean and mean so long as sides bearable
matthew76
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*Fixed.
And here is the daily boner-post:
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lyfespan
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matthew76
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Dude, half of a Lun is enough.Received a nice care package today
thundergod
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WOW!!
mfg: :woohoo:What dat sweet little ass needs is for a battle-hardened Berzerker like myself to make with the rough, violent, "make her wonder if she'll live through it" type of.........
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tim1985
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Slept a good 4 hours last night, woke up around 4 am and just couldn't go back down. But I feel SOOOO much better from that sleep! Thanks man! You know who you are! Both of you lol
Im diggin' the booty pics, Ive always been more of an ass man more than a titty guy. Tits are fun and all, but da booty is where its at
Im diggin' the booty pics, Ive always been more of an ass man more than a titty guy. Tits are fun and all, but da booty is where its at
edwitt
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Glad to hear u got some sleep,
Y some good pics from Mat there, me I hate to discriminate Italy all good in my book
Noticing any major strength gains yet or has the lack of sleep been messing with ur training ?
tim1985
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Actually I haven't noticed too much strength(I have noticed a good bit since the start of this but nothing too much lately), but Im not really training for strength, I realize that with size strength does come with it, but the 2 aren't always relative. I look stronger than I am, I don't mind not being overly strong, but I do want to look strong lol.
Since this whole sleep fiasco my appetite has dwindled into me having to force feed at times. Yesterday was my cheat day and I had to force myself to eat about 5k yesterday, I usually pound over 8-10K on those days without force feedings, so that just shows you how bad my appetite has gotten. Im thinking it may have something to do with lack of sleep, sort of hoping this was indirectly caused by tren, not directly.
On another note, I was feeling way too pent up today so I decided to hit up Monday's w/o today. I should have waited till 2morrow, I was just too tired to do this right. The last half of the w/o I subbed leg extensions for the med stance squats, I just couldn't belt out over 100 squats today.
Sunday w/o Quads/Calves/Upper Abs
Superset #1
Squats(medium stance) 10 reps 10 sets No Rest
Crunches 10 reps 10 sets 1 minute rest
Squats (wide stance) 15-20 reps 2 sets 1 minute rest
Calf press 8 reps 8 sets 30 second rest
Im not sure if its the lack of sleep or if Tren is finally deciding to mess with my endurance, stamina isn't up to par right now. Im hoping with this new line up of sleep support that this will be behind me, I like being able to pump a bike up a fairly steep incline(up a small mountain actually) for a fairly long distance without gassing out. People usually don't expect a guy who weighs over 200lbs to have that kind of endurance, at least not the peeps I associate with, walking for 30 minutes is a big deal to them lol.
Silver3CSRT8
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Man I am learning quite a bit from reading your log. I am glad I didn't go with the blend I was looking at that had Tren E in it. I think a straight test/D-Bol cycle will treat me right. Hope your sleep returns to somewhat normal soon.
tim1985
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Straight Test/dbol cycle is to this day my best cycle to date. You will not be disappointed with your results, I guarantee that. Glad your picking up info from this log, Ive learned more from reading peoples logs/personal experiences than anywhere else
nosnmiveins
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if u walk up about 10 stairs and cant breathe, then its the tren. otherwise it may just be poor sleeping habbits, overtraining, etc
tim1985
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:box:
tim1985
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Next Week I am supposed to have an Active Recovery Phase but I think I am going to skip it and start my next blast phase. It looks more intense than I remember, Im not sure if I want to even try this split lol
Hypertrophy Phase #2: Volume Training
Duration: 6 weeks
Purpose: Increase the body's muscle mass levels through intra-cellular increase of energy substrates and water.
Training methodology: The last Hypertrophy Phase concentrated on the 10 sets of 10 method and the 8 sets of 8 method, and one angle of attack. This phase attacks the muscle from different angles in order to activate many bodybuilders, such as Arnold Schwartzenager. This method is also very popular with Flordia's bodybuilding guru Tim Gardener. The reason this multi-angular attack works is because the muscle is worked through all its range of motion, the mid-range, streched and contracted ranges. When you train a muscle fiber through all of its range of motion, muscle fiber recruitment is maximized. To select a weight for your exercises, choose one that allows you to perform good form for the required number of reps. The last repetition should be challenging but not impossible.
Monday: Chest/Back/Traps/Rear Delts
Superset#1 Incline BB or DB press 6-8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Pull-up to front(wide grip) 6-8 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#2
Chest Dips 6-8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Close Grip Chins 6-8 reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#3
Cable Incline Flies 10-12 reps 3 sets
Low Pulley Rows 10-12 reps 3 sets No Rest
Dumbbell Pullovers 10-12 reps 2 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#4
Stiff-arm Pull downs 15-20 reps 2 sets No Rest
Bent Arm Bent-over Rows 15-20 reps 2 sets No Rest
Upright Rows 15-20 reps 2 sets No Rest
Tuesday: Hamstrings/Calves /Abs
Superset#1
Hamstring Leg Press 6-8 reps 4 sets No Rest
Hanging Leg Raises 10-15 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#2
DB Stiff-Legged Deadlifts 10-12 reps 4 sets
Bicycle Crunches 15 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#4
Donkey Calf Raises 10-15 reps 4 sets No Rest
Standing Calf Raises 8 reps 3 sets 30 seconds Rest
Thursday: Biceps/Triceps/Delts
Superset#1
Close Grip chins 6-8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Close Grip Bench Press 6-8 3 sets 1 Minute
Superset#2
Incline DB curls 10-12 reps 3 sets No Rest
Over Head DB Triceps Extensions 10-12 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#3
Concentration Curls 15-20 reps 3 sets No Rest
Triceps Kickbacks 15-20 Reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#4
Seated Military Press 8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Incline One Arm Laterals 10-12 3 sets No Rest
Lateral Raises 15-20 reps 3 sets 1 Minute
Friday: Quads/Claves/Abs
Superset#1
Squats (medium stance) 6-8 reps 4 sets
Hanging Leg Raises 10-15 Reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#2
Sissy Squats 10-12 reps 4 sets No Rest
Bicycle Crunches 15 reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#3
Leg Extension 15-20 reps 4 sets No Rest
Crunches 10-15 reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#4
Donkey Calf Raises 10-15 reps 4 sets No Rest
Standing Calf Raises 8 reps 4 sets 30 seconds
Hypertrophy Phase #2: Volume Training
Duration: 6 weeks
Purpose: Increase the body's muscle mass levels through intra-cellular increase of energy substrates and water.
Training methodology: The last Hypertrophy Phase concentrated on the 10 sets of 10 method and the 8 sets of 8 method, and one angle of attack. This phase attacks the muscle from different angles in order to activate many bodybuilders, such as Arnold Schwartzenager. This method is also very popular with Flordia's bodybuilding guru Tim Gardener. The reason this multi-angular attack works is because the muscle is worked through all its range of motion, the mid-range, streched and contracted ranges. When you train a muscle fiber through all of its range of motion, muscle fiber recruitment is maximized. To select a weight for your exercises, choose one that allows you to perform good form for the required number of reps. The last repetition should be challenging but not impossible.
Monday: Chest/Back/Traps/Rear Delts
Superset#1 Incline BB or DB press 6-8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Pull-up to front(wide grip) 6-8 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#2
Chest Dips 6-8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Close Grip Chins 6-8 reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#3
Cable Incline Flies 10-12 reps 3 sets
Low Pulley Rows 10-12 reps 3 sets No Rest
Dumbbell Pullovers 10-12 reps 2 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#4
Stiff-arm Pull downs 15-20 reps 2 sets No Rest
Bent Arm Bent-over Rows 15-20 reps 2 sets No Rest
Upright Rows 15-20 reps 2 sets No Rest
Tuesday: Hamstrings/Calves /Abs
Superset#1
Hamstring Leg Press 6-8 reps 4 sets No Rest
Hanging Leg Raises 10-15 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#2
DB Stiff-Legged Deadlifts 10-12 reps 4 sets
Bicycle Crunches 15 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#4
Donkey Calf Raises 10-15 reps 4 sets No Rest
Standing Calf Raises 8 reps 3 sets 30 seconds Rest
Thursday: Biceps/Triceps/Delts
Superset#1
Close Grip chins 6-8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Close Grip Bench Press 6-8 3 sets 1 Minute
Superset#2
Incline DB curls 10-12 reps 3 sets No Rest
Over Head DB Triceps Extensions 10-12 reps 3 sets 1 Minute Rest
Superset#3
Concentration Curls 15-20 reps 3 sets No Rest
Triceps Kickbacks 15-20 Reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#4
Seated Military Press 8 reps 3 sets No Rest
Incline One Arm Laterals 10-12 3 sets No Rest
Lateral Raises 15-20 reps 3 sets 1 Minute
Friday: Quads/Claves/Abs
Superset#1
Squats (medium stance) 6-8 reps 4 sets
Hanging Leg Raises 10-15 Reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#2
Sissy Squats 10-12 reps 4 sets No Rest
Bicycle Crunches 15 reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#3
Leg Extension 15-20 reps 4 sets No Rest
Crunches 10-15 reps 3 sets 1 minute
Superset#4
Donkey Calf Raises 10-15 reps 4 sets No Rest
Standing Calf Raises 8 reps 4 sets 30 seconds
edwitt
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Ill have a double
lyfespan
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thats a pretty intense week. and i thought a body part a day wuz bad. and heres another tune for ya, and a good video too.
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tim1985
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I really doubt I can hang with this new split. Im borderline over-training as it is with all the cardio I do on top of lifting. Any suggestions on something basic like what I have been doing these past 5 weeks? I like the program Im on now, but Im due for a change and the next phase of this is just too much, imo.
Yesterday was an off day but Monday I did chest/delts/back and Sunday I did quads/calves/upper abs. Im going to hit hams/calves/lower abs in a bit.
Sleep has been much better, and although I feel leaps and bounds better, Im still not 100%, so I was dragging a$$ on the last 2 work outs. I hope today will be different, energy levels are low but Im motivated and I am more than capable of overcoming some lethargy, I mean... that is what stimulants are for after all
Yesterday was an off day but Monday I did chest/delts/back and Sunday I did quads/calves/upper abs. Im going to hit hams/calves/lower abs in a bit.
Sleep has been much better, and although I feel leaps and bounds better, Im still not 100%, so I was dragging a$$ on the last 2 work outs. I hope today will be different, energy levels are low but Im motivated and I am more than capable of overcoming some lethargy, I mean... that is what stimulants are for after all
edwitt
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:32:
rhodesman
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What's the name of your basketball team?