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Usf97j4x4 said:
Thanks!

Let me know if you need help designing your cycle although I would use them solo, not stacked.
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Since you mentioned it..... I plan on running P-Plex first(in about 2 months) and then running h-drol next spring. I'm just finishing up a Havoc 6 week pulse(with 4 weeks PCT)now.


I'm planning on running a straight 4 week cycle of p-plex with 6-oxo for PCT(because I already have 2 bottles)...but thats it so far. I will still be researching more, but i think I read where ziqour thought that 6-oxo(AI) would work out nice for PCT. I think it is a great idea.

Any information would be greatly appreciated(support supps, dosage, PCT) I would like to keep the dosages fairly mild, but I'm open to any suggestions.:thumbsup:

Thanks!
 
partyman43 said:
Since you mentioned it..... I plan on running P-Plex first(in about 2 months) and then running h-drol next spring. I'm just finishing up a Havoc 6 week pulse(with 4 weeks PCT)now.


I'm planning on running a straight 4 week cycle of p-plex with 6-oxo for PCT(because I already have 2 bottles)...but thats it so far. I will still be researching more, but i think I read where ziqour thought that 6-oxo(AI) would work out nice for PCT. I think it is a great idea.

Any information would be greatly appreciated(support supps, dosage, PCT) I would like to keep the dosages fairly mild, but I'm open to any suggestions.:thumbsup:

Thanks!
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Fairly mild eh, your talking to the wrong guy. ;)

For the P-Plex, I agree with Ziq in that 6-OXO could be a good choice. Another great choice if you are trying to avoid ATD is a 6-bromo based product like Hyperdrol X2. I would dose 30/30/40/40 or 30/40/40/50. The usual supporting supplements will be required, definitely hawthorne as I had some real BP issues. One thing I didnt have was back pumps which is nice.
 
Usf97j4x4 said:
Fairly mild eh, your talking to the wrong guy. ;)

For the P-Plex, I agree with Ziq in that 6-OXO could be a good choice. Another great choice if you are trying to avoid ATD is a 6-bromo based product like Hyperdrol X2. I would dose 30/30/40/40 or 30/40/40/50. The usual supporting supplements will be required, definitely hawthorne as I had some real BP issues. One thing I didnt have was back pumps which is nice.
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Well I've got hyperdrolx2 on hand also.....hum which one do I choose:think:


Multi vit
liver support(sesamin)
fish oil


What are your thoughts on a serm and its necessity(yeah or nea)?
 
partyman43 said:
Well I've got hyperdrolx2 on hand also.....hum which one do I choose:think:


Multi vit
liver support(sesamin)
fish oil


What are your thoughts on a serm and its necessity(yeah or nea)?
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Hard to say, you really have to go on a case by case basis. That being said I think if you put in the effort you can design an OTC PCT that works just as well as many SERMs. The only PH I would recommend you use a SERM for is M-Drol and its more because of a "better safe than sorry" mentality on my part. Ive seen people run M-Drol without a SERM and have no problems... but i've also seen the opposite: people running SERMs and STILL having issues.

Personally, I wouldn't use a SERM for H-Drol or P-Plex but that is me... I've ran them both and know how they effect me.

PS - I would probably use the Hyperdrol.

Sesamin isn't going to help much for your liver, just pick up some standardized silymarin (milk thistle)
 
Thanks Usf97....good lookin out.


I was hoping you would say that about the serm cause i had no intentions of using one. I personally don't like them(not say that sometimes there aren't necessary,but not as often as there are used)

My OTC PCT's are always strong anyway
 
partyman43 said:
Thanks Usf97....good lookin out.


I was hoping you would say that about the serm cause i had no intentions of using one. I personally don't like them(not say that sometimes there aren't necessary,but not as often as there are used)

My OTC PCT's are always strong anyway
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Heh, I did just squirt .50 mg of arimidex in my mouth when I was writing that. :P

I love clomid too but I can get by with OTC all day long.
 
i would say low dose 6bromo with 300mg 6oxo would work fine, maybe 60mg bromo split into 2 doses.

im a big fan of what the OTC stuff can do, and possibly eliminate the use of serms, that we really have no ideA what we are getting.
 
Usf97j4x4 said:
Heh, I did just squirt .50 mg of arimidex in my mouth when I was writing that. :P

I love clomid too but I can get by with OTC all day long.
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Huh.....interesting

Answer this for me. How am I going to do a 30,30,40,40 when each dosage is 15 mgs.:think:

What about 15,30,30,45:thumbsup:


Right on crazyfool:head:
 
crazyfool405 said:
i would say low dose 6bromo with 300mg 6oxo would work fine, maybe 60mg bromo split into 2 doses.

im a big fan of what the OTC stuff can do, and possibly eliminate the use of serms, that we really have no ideA what we are getting.
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Crazyfool....so you are saying half the strength on the hyperdrol dosage and 300mgs. a day 6-oxo

How long should I run my PCT for...1 month would be long enough right.:thumbsup:
 
partyman43 said:
Crazyfool....so you are saying half the strength on the hyperdrol dosage and 300mgs. a day 6-oxo

How long should I run my PCT for...1 month would be long enough right.:thumbsup:
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Yup.

Ok OP - you have the older P-Plex, so just go 30/30/45/45. Dont waste your time taking 1 cap of P-Plex for a week.
 
Sorry bro....i just got my p-plex in the mail and it is 10 mgs.

I'm going to run 30,30,40,40

When is the best time to take these dosages.
2 in am and 1,2 in afternoon.
Do i take it on an empty stomach or with food(protien shake).
 
partyman43 said:
Sorry bro....i just got my p-plex in the mail and it is 10 mgs.

I'm going to run 30,30,40,40

When is the best time to take these dosages.
2 in am and 1,2 in afternoon.
Do i take it on an empty stomach or with food(protien shake).
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i take mine half hour after a meal,

i feel like methyls work better on empty or almost empty, and non methyls need the fat as a carrier...

just my thought.
 
partyman43 said:
Sorry bro....i just got my p-plex in the mail and it is 10 mgs.

I'm going to run 30,30,40,40

When is the best time to take these dosages.
2 in am and 1,2 in afternoon.
Do i take it on an empty stomach or with food(protien shake).
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Doesnt matter when you take em, just do it the same time everyday

I take all PHs with a fatty meal
 
madds87 said:
why would you say that? Is it because you get better results or it because of the precautions?
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That, and both compounds take a while to kick in so you get a bit of a lag in gains. If i'm going to stack I like at least one of them to kick in fast. That being said some people report gains on p-plex really fast... but from my experience it is about 2 weeks.
 
Usf97j4x4 said:
That, and both compounds take a while to kick in so you get a bit of a lag in gains. If i'm going to stack I like at least one of them to kick in fast. That being said some people report gains on p-plex really fast... but from my experience it is about 2 weeks.
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Then I guess the stack of m-drol and p-plex wouldnt be as good as running those products by themselves on different 8 week cycles?
 
madds87 said:
Then I guess the stack of m-drol and p-plex wouldnt be as good as running those products by themselves on different 8 week cycles?
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I would not suggest stacking them ~~~ bridging for a total of 6 weeks would be what you want!
 
mw1 said:
Wks 1-4 PP and weeks 4-6 Mdrol:bb3:
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You can also reverse it too but you really need to be taking all the precautions for liver health. I would not run either of those compounds, solo or otherwise, without SAMe and the other 'usual suspects' of liver support.
 
Usf97j4x4 said:
You can also reverse it too but you really need to be taking all the precautions for liver health. I would not run either of those compounds, solo or otherwise, without SAMe and the other 'usual suspects' of liver support.
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Weeelllll....I perfer to go straight into pct after mdrol- you usually NEED to .... ha!
 
Usf97j4x4 said:
You can also reverse it too but you really need to be taking all the precautions for liver health. I would not run either of those compounds, solo or otherwise, without SAMe and the other 'usual suspects' of liver support.
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Of coarse im always taking liver support, even when im not on a cycle. Kinda OCD about my health......
 
Now what about the Ph, e and h, would you be able to stack, or bridge those or i think i might just have to run all of them sepp. I would like to see how all of them work by themselves.
 
madds87 said:
Now what about the Ph, e and h, would you be able to stack, or bridge those or i think i might just have to run all of them sepp. I would like to see how all of them work by themselves.
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Thamay be the smartest.....more does not always equal better
 
true. Plus i have heard so much great things about these products i actually baught a ton of today! since great ph never last long in market. cant wait to check them out!
 
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